Twinkiepharm

deadass bruh

i mean... have you seen pearl boy???

Yeah but I thought the author was just a weirdo like Anne Rice just adding shocking shit without romanticizing it just for the shock value until it just kept getting worse and worse and I only gaf about Jooha and Dooshik's relationship but then she had Dooshik rape Jooha and shit

that's why this shouldn't surprise you tbh

People will still be surprised, and that’s perfectly normal. Not everyone will desensitize.

How was it even romanctized ?

It's a story about a mobster and a former whore, what did you expect?

Where did I say it was romanticized?

Not glorified detailed rape? Is it really that hard or do you weirdos love rape so much?

Yes but this is probably going to be much worse and im surprised its the main couple being full on rapists

Yes, cuz in a world of crime, murder, drugs and violence there would be no rape and it's problem Idk, I would understand this shock in a normal story, but here it is clear from the beginning that they are both crazy shitheads And I personally hate that rape is almost in every story (ehm, ehm Jinx), but this is literally story where do you have ex-whore, you're just an idiot if you expect there won't be rape here

Ive seen stories about crime and prostitution without glorifying rape so why the fuck are you defending this shit

And the writing for this is dogshit the only reason people read it is because its a pearl boy spin off and the art is good nobody came here for more rape

And where tf am I defending it? What I'm saying is that you are upset about something that was crystal clear that would be in this story, plus even though I haven't read Pearl Boy (maybe like 20 chapters), I know there was a lot of violence and sexual violence in it. So idk what you expect the author to do other than do the same thing in a different guise

And idk why youre excusing glorified rape just because this shit is about crime and prostitution

Both of you have valid reasons, let’s chime down.
Twinkie is right that rape shouldn’t be glorified or romanticized at all. Even if BLs have mafia tag or gang whatever, rape/SA is an excessively used trope when it comes to bottoms. Stories can be dark without rape towards bottoms.

Edward is right that it’s best to avoid a story if it triggers an individual, there’s not much to do at moment. Draw a line between reality and fiction, get some break maybe if it stresses you. Unfortunately many BL tends to have SA, so find Shounen Ai or novels/danmeis (I can recommend based on preferences).

Also I don’t like calling Yuta a former whore, I see him as a victim. He never chose to be a ‘whore’, he was absolutely forced—start of his villain arc. Anyways, not black or white, both main characters suck.

The only problem I have is the glorified rape ive read so many stories where the rape is more of awareness instead of it being romanticized or glorified

I basically agree with your comment, just- are we really going to talk about whether it's right or wrong to call a fictional character an ex-whore:dd That's what he did - whether willingly or not, it's just naming it, so yeah

I'm asking for the last time: where am I defending or even justifying this? I just wrote that if it has all the signs that there will be rape, then why are you surprised that there will be rape. If it looks like a duck, it walks like a duck, it behaves like a duck, then it will probably be a duck. At the same time, I haven't seen any glorification of rape yet, as you write here - just that we don't misunderstand eachother; considering that Korean women (authors) are quite obsessed with this "topic", it quite possibly will be here, but not yet, so

Again, just my opinion. It’s just a preference of saying. Readers feel with the story, and stories are meant to make you feel.

I personally wouldn’t because he didn’t want to be a whore, he did not have a choice. When I think of someone saying, ex whore, I think of someone who used to sleep around which is black and white.

It’s the framing, again with the ‘it’s what he did’. It erases the fact of coercion imo.

I see what you’re trying to say though, it’s fiction so it shouldn’t matter—but then, it also shouldn’t matter if someone does say it matters.

Yeah, stories can be dark with implications of rape or none at all.

For the Korean women comment, reality is that many of these stories are possibly reflections of patriarchal trauma.

I think people are free to be surprised even if they knew it was coming. It’s a normal human reaction to something people see over and over again. I have read BL for a while now, I still get grossed out by the amount of rape. It’s not up to them to control their emotions, however they can choose not to read it.

It’s not about surprise — it’s about how the story handles those ‘dark’ themes. Just because something’s ‘expected’ doesn’t make it harmless or well-executed trope. If readers are hurt or disturbed, their reaction is valid — whether or not the story ‘warned’ them.

But yes, you can scroll through those panels or stop reading to give yourself break.

Yeah, okay, I got your point. I don't completely agree with that, but I understand and it makes sense. Plus idk, maybe the word "whore" in english automatically has a negative connotation, in my language it's completely common, so maybe that's a thing

No youre mad because I didnt want to see glorified rape

"It's a story about a mobster and a former whore, what did you expect?" Its literally the fact that you think someone should expect glorified rape in every thing thats about crime and prostitution like is it so bad I dont wanna see GLORIFIED rape as in I dont want it to be so goddamn detailed, and it being a constant thing with the main couple? Thats the problem I have, I have a problem when its glorified or romanticized when its just awareness or something thats not the problem I have but you thinking we should all expect rape in crime stories is so fucking weird.

Killer Crush, Monochrome Rumor, Wetsand, Walk on Water, Over The Moon, A Painter Behind the Curtain, Pink Heart Jam, The Stranger in the Mirror, Shutline, Plum Blossom Shade, Unblossomed, Solo For Two, Black Mirror, Wolf In The House, and Murderer Llewellyn's enchanting dinner invitation all either have crime or prostitution or both, some may have rape scenes but theyre not glorified unlike pearl boy and this dogshit spin off so yeah we normal people dont expect glorified rape in crime and shit and people who enjoy rape scenes are fetishizers and also you saying all korean women enjoy it is racist and weird too this isnt just an issue in bl manhwas this is an issue everywhere stop acting like we should normalize it or expect it.

Yeah, okay, I got your point. I don't completely agree with that, but I understand and it makes sense. Plus, idk maybe the word "whore" in english automatically has a negative connotation, in my language it's completely normal, so yeah, maybe that's thing

wait i stopped reading pearl boy years ago he did what??? raped him?? huh why

Yes in the 2nd side stories

But I dont remember why I think it was because he was jealous or too horny or something and then Jooha was hella mad for what he did and Dooshik apologized then Jooha forgave Dooshik in a second like nothing happened it was so weird and disgusting like why even add that when their relationship was going well