DownTheRabbitHole December 9, 2017 4:30 am

I don't trust that alpha Shiratori... I think he's just playing the nice guy to gain Sumi's trust... First of all he lied about the club Sumi found that business card in his jacket.

    helado December 9, 2017 6:20 am

    but he's friend of karasuma and utou, and if he actually wanted to do something i think he would have done so at the restaurant or at the club

    Akino_Yonaga December 9, 2017 6:55 pm
    but he's friend of karasuma and utou, and if he actually wanted to do something i think he would have done so at the restaurant or at the club helado

    Yep. I mean, of course I want this to be Beta/Omega, but that Alpha didn't look so bad.

    DownTheRabbitHole September 20, 2019 2:18 pm

    I know an asshole when I see one!!!

    Akino_Yonaga September 20, 2019 2:37 pm

    LMAO, you actually went looking for this thread from two years ago? Love it. BTW, who was that blond omega in Utou's memories? Do you remember if they appeared before?

    DownTheRabbitHole September 20, 2019 2:57 pm
    LMAO, you actually went looking for this thread from two years ago? Love it. BTW, who was that blond omega in Utou's memories? Do you remember if they appeared before? Akino_Yonaga

    I sure did and I REGRET NOTHING lmao and my theory is it wasn't Utou's memories but rather sShiratori's i think it's his previous omega partner (same guy that runs into Sumi's club crying) I think it was all a part of Shiratori's plan that blonde omega was his "excuse" for visiting the club often (remember he lied to Sumi about going there but had a member card)

DownTheRabbitHole December 3, 2017 9:52 am

(╯°Д °)╯╧╧

I really don't want this to be a 3p... Saotome (the beta) deserves so much better than Yukishiro (the omega) who is just willing to throw him away after Saotome has been there for him for so long and for a shitty Alpha, guess you reap what you sow. I get that because they're fate pairs or whatever he can't help his reaction to the Alpha but show a little more consideration toward the Beta. Also he knows the beta was lying when he said he was happy he found his fated pair so I'm sure he know how the beta feels about him to some extent.

DownTheRabbitHole November 29, 2017 7:00 am

So at first...


















I thought that Arata was going to be the one that cheats on na-chan because he meets that senpai in the bathhouse first and seemed to be checking him out and didn't tell na-chan about the bathhouse at first like he was planning to but then I read the raws (⊙…⊙ ) was surprised who the cheater was...

    Kiyotake December 17, 2017 1:11 am

    i thought it might be him too, or threesome, but then when they introduced his lover i knew right then... he had that "i need some thrill" look to him

DownTheRabbitHole November 21, 2017 5:58 pm

I like this story but I can't help but feel like there are pages missing or something... I dunno maybe its just me. ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍

    lrtwjra November 21, 2017 7:25 pm

    I kno right! For me its cute has good plot but it was too rushed!

    MagicalReader November 21, 2017 9:15 pm

    I think there are some missing.

    Lovety001 November 21, 2017 11:22 pm

    They’re not missing, it’s just that every chapter is short.

    DownTheRabbitHole November 22, 2017 2:08 am
    They’re not missing, it’s just that every chapter is short. Lovety001

    It's not so much the length of the chapters, I've read stories with short chapters but this one just doesn't feel complete somehow

    DownTheRabbitHole November 22, 2017 2:09 am
    I kno right! For me its cute has good plot but it was too rushed! lrtwjra

    Yeah I know what you mean like it has the potential for so much more

    DownTheRabbitHole November 22, 2017 2:11 am
    I think there are some missing. MagicalReader

    I wonder...I've looked for the raws to see if that's the case but I can't find the raws >.<

    chaosblitz56 November 22, 2017 5:14 am
    I wonder...I've looked for the raws to see if that's the case but I can't find the raws >.< DownTheRabbitHole

    It's because they completely skipped over the sex scenes. (or, at least, the one I've gotten to) I dunno if it was part of the original or not, but it seems like it got cut out, since there's quite a bit of build up with pretty much no payoff.

    DownTheRabbitHole November 22, 2017 11:51 am
    It's because they completely skipped over the sex scenes. (or, at least, the one I've gotten to) I dunno if it was part of the original or not, but it seems like it got cut out, since there's quite a bit of bu... chaosblitz56

    You've found raws? Where?

    Lovety001 November 22, 2017 2:29 pm

    The raws are available on the artist pixiv. The translator list it on the credit page EVERY TIME. Check the credits page for the link to the raws. They’ve not skipped on the sex scenes, they don’t exist. I’m saying this because I’ve read the raws and have been since the first chapter.

    chaosblitz56 November 22, 2017 7:55 pm
    You've found raws? Where? DownTheRabbitHole

    Er, no I haven't found the raws. I was just agreeing with you that the chapters felt unfinished.

DownTheRabbitHole November 20, 2017 3:17 pm

I have the feeling that Ayumi is Araki's one night stand and although I feel like if Kotaro finds out it will obviously affect him I don't think Ayumi should be blamed he never denied his past (plus I don't think he'll actually remember sleeping with Araki) and when he confessed to Kotaro he told him he had never fallen in love he just had a bunch of one night stands and Kotaro accepted that and chose to stay now of course learning he personally knows one of his one night stands is going to hurt Kotaro but my babies will work it out like they've work out everything so far (⌒▽⌒)

    OniGiriGirl November 20, 2017 3:25 pm

    yes, i was thinking the exact same thing!

    PXR November 20, 2017 5:27 pm

    I agree with 100% but working it out that easily is something I doubt

    DownTheRabbitHole November 20, 2017 5:42 pm
    I agree with 100% but working it out that easily is something I doubt PXR

    Well yeah I just at the end they'll work it out

DownTheRabbitHole November 12, 2017 4:41 am

Who has read all the books?

They're soo good! Really wish Sterling and Rhys got their own book though not just the short stories

    Fuji4life November 12, 2017 12:14 pm

    Me, me, me!!! I agree with you, they were hawt!!! ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ

    I am also hoping there will be one of Sterling and Rhys ... I enjoyed their oneshot very much.

    What was your favourite story? Mine was Remi and Jake (=・ω・=)

    DownTheRabbitHole November 12, 2017 3:46 pm
    Me, me, me!!! I agree with you, they were hawt!!! ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ I am also hoping there will be one of Sterling and Rhys ... I enjoyed their oneshot very much.What was your favourite story? Mine was... Fuji4life

    Yes!! They were definitely one of my favorites!

    DownTheRabbitHole November 12, 2017 4:22 pm

    Oh I would also like to see the rest of the stories in manga form(⌒▽⌒)

    Fuji4life November 12, 2017 6:59 pm
    Oh I would also like to see the rest of the stories in manga form(⌒▽⌒) DownTheRabbitHole

    I read in one of the comments that there might be mangas for all three stories...

    PinkPanther November 12, 2017 9:42 pm

    Were can i get the Books? And what is rhys & Sterlings Story. Where can I Read it

    BeesKnees November 12, 2017 9:48 pm

    Read on author's website that next book is going to be about ryhs and Sterling. In second draft. And I downloaded the books. You have to create an account.
    http://www.yaoiotaku.com/forums/threads/27354-With-or-Without-0-5-3-Side-Stories-J-L-Langley?highlight=j.l.+langley

    DownTheRabbitHole November 13, 2017 3:46 am
    Read on author's website that next book is going to be about ryhs and Sterling. In second draft. And I downloaded the books. You have to create an account. http://www.yaoiotaku.com/forums/threads/27354-With-or-... BeesKnees

    Ahh thank you I had no idea you're awesome!

    DownTheRabbitHole November 13, 2017 3:48 am
    Were can i get the Books? And what is rhys & Sterlings Story. Where can I Read it PinkPanther

    You can read all the current stories here... There are 3 main stories and 6 short stories

    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2v4dlimw1785fm6/AAB5MN4VBOpdyMyy0Zui52w2a?dl=0

    DownTheRabbitHole November 13, 2017 3:49 am
    I read in one of the comments that there might be mangas for all three stories... Fuji4life

    i really hope so!!!

    blackfairy November 13, 2017 4:48 am
    Read on author's website that next book is going to be about ryhs and Sterling. In second draft. And I downloaded the books. You have to create an account. http://www.yaoiotaku.com/forums/threads/27354-With-or-... BeesKnees

    MY GOD. This is fun to read

    DownTheRabbitHole December 3, 2017 9:36 am

    Omg ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ so I just reread Matt and Aubrey's and I have a theory...ok ready?













    I think Bambi and Gadget ( Matt's dad) are mates... (⌒▽⌒) maybe it's just wishful thinking but obviously Matt's mom isn't his mate but then something Bambi said stuck with me... When Matt goes back home because his mom left and Eddie calls and Aubrey goes to look for him Bambi becomes all protective of Matt and his feelings and he doesn't like that Aubrey was trying to keep their relationship a secret Bambi says something when Gadget gives Aubrey his blessing he says "you don't know what it's like" and Matt also said that Bambi used to be around all the time when he was growing up until Bambi left to school or something so I think Gadget and Bambi discovered they were mates after Gadget had gotten Matt's mom pregnant with Matt and because Gadget is a great dad he felt responsible and stayed with the mom instead of being with his true mate (Bambi) and Bambi probably feels like another reason Gadget isn't with him is because he can't accept a male mate so he understand Matt's feelings with Aubrey... Well this is all just my theory (⌒▽⌒) sorry for the long rant... I have no fujoshi friends to talk to about this kinda stuff haha

    Fuji4life December 16, 2017 9:58 am
    Omg ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ so I just reread Matt and Aubrey's and I have a theory...ok ready?I think Bambi and Gadget ( Matt's dad) are mates... (⌒▽⌒) maybe it's just wishful thinking but obviously Mat... DownTheRabbitHole

    I thought the same thing too (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ

    Inuyo December 27, 2017 4:36 am
    Omg ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ so I just reread Matt and Aubrey's and I have a theory...ok ready?I think Bambi and Gadget ( Matt's dad) are mates... (⌒▽⌒) maybe it's just wishful thinking but obviously Mat... DownTheRabbitHole

    Yes had the same exact theory and like you have zero fujoshi friends too so had no one to confirm it with. I so hope the author writes about them too. Ed think I might need another reread of all the novels now

    DownTheRabbitHole December 27, 2017 5:52 am
    I thought the same thing too (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ Fuji4life

    If so I hope they get a story too... Like something where they tell us a bit about their past and now that Gadget is single

    DownTheRabbitHole December 27, 2017 5:54 am
    Yes had the same exact theory and like you have zero fujoshi friends too so had no one to confirm it with. I so hope the author writes about them too. Ed think I might need another reread of all the novels ... Inuyo

    Ahh that's awesome and right times like these suck when you have no one to fangirl with!

DownTheRabbitHole November 1, 2017 1:09 pm

Am I the only one that wants to see more of the back story of how Maya fell for Nemu? Like I know his interest started because of the underwear thing but like I wanna see how he realized he liked Nemu.

Anonymous October 26, 2017 7:20 am

I love stories like this(≧∀≦) can anyone suggest some that are similar please and sankyou(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ

Anonymous October 25, 2017 3:42 pm

But the real question is when are the two friends getting their own story? I NEED IT!! (⊙…⊙ )

Anonymous October 23, 2017 4:50 am

I wanted them to combine their names to make a name for the cat ( ̄へ ̄)Also I kinda want the chief to end up with Kyujo since he's already a fan(≧∇≦)

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