I've read till chapter 10, sadly I really dislike this kind of dynamics between mcs and their personalities.
Ren Yan's actions toward his partner disgust me.
Read further.. I just caught up and its real cringey at the start but it gets interesting and ends up liking it
it will keep better, trust me
In my experience as a bisexual man, it's "funny" how gay man are more hostile and judgemental than straight man... Sometimes there's more discrimination inside the community than outside.
There's this guy who was a regular, every time he always asked for rooms on the third floor. Most floors at the hotel have carpet, only third and eight doesn't. So we thought it was because he wanted a room with wood floor and is afraid of heights, but later I discovery that the real reason was because the indoor pool is located on the third floor.
I was on a night shift working, he arrived with a different trans woman like he always did. Later, around 1am, on my office looking at the security cameras occasionally between tasks I see them doing it on the pool chairs.
The guy had the audacity of looking at the cameras and continued to pound her hard...
Rewinding the tape, they started inside the pool, so when I noticed they already moved after soiling the water.............
He was banned afterwards.
What
Crazy bitch
As a guy, I can say a lot of men fantasizes waking up to their partners blowing them and other sexual actions. And I think that's totally fine if there's prior consent.
Regrettably, the view most men have about rape isn't the same women have, because men don't live with that kind of fear, it's one of a society's cancer, if you ask me. I also wonder if asians might have a slightly different view.
It's different from when Juwon did because he legit thought he was dreaming, so he had no intention, even though it's also wrong.
I'm also reall tired about rape scenes in BL...
I get that he's drunk and desperate, but c'mon, just wake your man up, it's not that hard... (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ
Totally agree! My bf told me he loves to wake up like that, but he told me that before I ever did that and I think that’s a difference in real life. I would never do something to someone while he is asleep if we didn’t talked about it before and so should be it for everyone…
yeah it's called somno. which is cool IF you have consent from your partner before hand. bottom did not get consent and that's why it's rape.
It's just too weird for me that Japan wouldn't have a proper protocol of treatment in this day and age... But I get it, it's for the plot.
I also suffered a huge accident when I was 14 and lost part of my memories, the worst part was that I practically became Dori of Finding Nemo afterwards, so I don't remember 2/3 years before the accident and a year after is just a few pieces here and there. My capacity of retaining new memories was never the same.
I had a lot trouble at school because all the knowledge was also lost and I had to learn everything again. Writing was the most difficult to pic it up because I lost the years we start to learn to write essays and the like, I was a highschool student writing like a kid that just started middle school, I felt humiliated when I read stuff I've written before the accident and I could never write like that again, it was so frustrating that I stopped and it became the most difficult thing to do.
Not remembering important things is TERRIFYING, specially when people come to talk to you and you don't know them or when they tell you things you did together and you don't know if you're actually remembering of it's just your brain creating memories based of others testimony...
It's HARD, so I hate the fact that ML lied about their lives together, but I also understand he did it because he was afraid to lose him, only someone who actually lost their memories would understand how terrifying it is.
The story is cute, but as a top myself, everything about this was incredible uncomfortable to read...The "playboy tachi" that does everything in wrong order, I wasn't that clueless even as a virgin...
Sorry, I understand that I shouldn't expect much, but I'm disappointed because I like wholesome stories, this had potential.
The author is so inexperienced with sex related content and it shows, I wish they tried things themselves before writing, it would make a good story even better.
I think it goes to show how much you care about your future partners and how things are done properly. I noticed that with a lot of comics in general, unless made by fellow queer people, don't really understand how queer sex works. It's always a fantasy version of it. The author used the excuse of the top not being with many if any virgins before, but I don't think the author understands that no matter what it takes a lot of prep to be the bottom regardless.
I'm a lesbian so I'm not the most educated on these things either but I've heard a lot of gay male couples tend to have certain days they have penetrative sex bc of all the prep and risk if they have it all the time like they show in these comics. I wish that side was shown more, it'd give an edge of reality.
BL never meant to represent LGBTQ+ community properly especially it made in Asia , mostly written by straight female for female audience it's better if we don't expect them to know fully about queer community which they only meant it give full of fantasy for audience that don't give a crap about actual thing in the first place. Better not thought that BL is reality based while it's all fetish fantasy of fujoshis in the first place.
True, but I think most manga is still way ahead all korean manhwa with their gigantic dicks... (ب_ب)
It's possible to have penetrative sex without a lot of prep, I believe washing inside is more harmful than the act itself, but that really depends of each person and their own constitution, and like you said, how they are on the day. Sadly, the majority of straight men and tops irl also don't understand the most important thing about good sex is to focus on a lot foreplay, and that's way more about it than intercourse. So that's kinda "accidentally" realistic for sensei. Since I'm bi, I understand that's the same about women, that's why lesbians are the real pro. Everyone can have sex everyday if they want, just not anal.
Yes, I understand that, I read bl for more than a decade and they also kinda helped me understand my own sexuality.
I think you hit the nail, most bl authors, being straight women and all, probably never even had a good experience with sex themselves, that's why they don't know much about it either.
I just think that, even for fantasy this one was a miss, wich is sad because I crave wholesome content since we are in another toxic era, specially with korean manhwa. It always amazes me when I think those disgusting sick things full of rape is actually written by women for other women.
Yah I m also reading yaoi/bl more than 9 years I m also straight myself so about finding my sexuality didn't come across my mind and i tend to enjoy story which is not straight, about those rape bl manhwa i assume even straight are same when it's written by men to rape women ( I'm talking about seinen plots) so both parties gives share amount of disgusting representation on each other that full fill in market to earn money, in between that reality overshadow the motive of an community that come between them is LGBTQ+ my male friend is gay he reads these stories he enjoy it but as fiction it's good people know difference between fiction and reality so they don't illusioned themselves thinking it's alright to happen to anyone in the first place , there are many people who read fucked up plot (I m also one of them) find peace in it but for some who sensitive to such things rather avoid it.
I m sure there are many mangas that talk about sexuality and stuff on real issue.
well spoken!
Yup yup, totally agree!
I also think that mangas are way ahead of manhwas but both are still mostly written for the fujoshis (straight female). I'm straight and don't really associate these works with IRL.
I also noticed that Korean manhwas are usually Cinderella stories so I appreciate it when the MCs are from the same socio-economic class which seems more common with Japanese mangas.
Sorry you're a top but I'm asking this. I'm actually writing a bl story in my language but I'm not yet there in smut or sex scene. I'm curious how bottom clean themselves , did they use enema or finger. I quite scared to look up in google and watch the actual process I saw a glimpse before and it was disgusting because it was someone poops.
I'm curious maybe you know? And really? Is it not possible to do it everyday in real life haha? Maybe 3 times a week or weekend.
Unfortunately I can't help you much with that because I'm also not the one doing it so... I have no experience.(٥↼_↼)
But, what I know is that people usually use just water from a shower head because using enema frequently is really harmful.
I think that depends on the person and their own biology. I've met people who did it almost every day and were completely fine. And I also had penetrative sex a few times without planning and encountered no accidents even though they didn't cleaned themselves beforehand.
I'm not very versed with the cleaning process because it also grosses me out, but I enjoy doing a lot of foreplay and loosening my partner up, so the key is always having plenty condoms at hand for the fingering process too.
But the most important thing, in my opinion, is that sex is way more than only intercourse. Everyone can have days that it won't work out but you can still do a lot of things together.
I had sex with a girl that could squirt, it can go pretty far but the trajectory isn't curved like that because it's released with a lot more force. Thankfully, I never watched any girl peeing, and since I'm a man I can say that's pretty much what's look like when we do it...
Even though I'm bi I would be utterly disgusted to witness that, and that's precisely that woman's goal to separate them...
Myung Ha could've/SHOULD'VE found an excuse to not get his boyfriend involved.
As a girl honestly; thanks for clearing that up
I was so confused
I mean I’m already confused since the sidestory started but oh well lol
As someone with a vag that's piss, I've never squirted but that's piss
The omega is an abusive disgusting piece of trash, a petty rapist that think he's the shit when he's just pathetic. He's the same kind of trash his ex is, exactly the same.
I persevered till chapter 40 even though I hated from the beginning hoping it would get better but no, the story is so full of holes it's infuriating!! Poorly written even...
Alpha with Stockholm syndrome that is way to good for the disgusting omega.
The only "saving grace", in terms of personality, are the 2 underlings, but not even good enough because they are completely useless and let the rat that got their boss raped go free, and the guy that stabbed his boss when it would be nearly impossible for him to run in that place... But again, that's the plot full of holes fault...
I wish I could understand why the hell ya all like this so much... Hours I will never get back. (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ
Dude i wish i read this before i read the manwha. 0_0 i had to skip most of it bc it was boring and just so poorly written.
Agree with the start, I had to take a break from 30+ chapters but continued the raws and actually liked it. It's of course not perfectly written but it has some good points tbh
1) the alpha being on the receiving end
2) good communication on the pregnancy news (i think everyone was expecting a chasing arc XD)
3) the message of giving a second chance not at the toxic ex but at someone who actually treats you right
4) Jae In being the same as Jeonghyuk is one I actually noticed and liked tbh the difference between them is that Jae In moved on now. Jeonghyuk also needs to get a life tbh
Sorry I just can't see anything good about this.
Omega abused, confined and raped the alpha and never had a redemption arc, they just showed his sad past and, because alpha has a huge mommy issues towards his omega parent, he saw how Jae in is pathetic and decided to take care of him even though he is just unredeemable trash.
Other thing that enraged me is how Jae in mistreats other omegas.
Giving second chances to whom? You mean at another relationship? Because Alpha always been good to him, Jae in is the one who needed to beg for forgiveness.
I noticed people tend to be a lot more lenient when the one being mistreated and raped is the top. For me that's actually pretty personal because I've been in a similar situation where the person I was dating used they suffering to trap and manipulate me. We were only friends but I was coerced into dating because I cared. But since I'm a top, people don't sees it as rape, not even me at the time. Thanks to all the gaslighting, I actually believed it was all my fault for being incapable of reciprocating their feelings.
It's been more than 10 years but the scars never fully healed, to the point I lost interest in being with people (I used to be bi, now I'm ace).
Back on topic, Jae in moved on because he had all the support in the world from friends and ml, he didn't do a single thing to deserve it.
I agree with Jae In's redemption arc, the author really hasn't gotten into it. I don't know if it'll be explored in the side stories or if the author focused too much on Jeonghyuk but I am satisfied at the ending. Yup, I'm talking about second chances in another relationship!
Also thank you for being brave in sharing your story, but yeah readers tend to be more lenient with it bcoz of the change in dynamics. I mean it's fictional, I just hope they're not like that in real life. It's something new and for an omegaverse it's one of the few out there. Doesn't make it right ofc but still. I agree that Jae In might have not done a single thing to deserve the good people he has right now but then I'm someone who believes everyone deserves a good support system.
I don't know but maybe I'm also just projecting into Jae In I've read too much foolish MCs that one of the things I liked about him is that he didn't flinched and hesitate when his ex told his "reasons". His attitude towards other omegas is the coping mechanism and his insecurity talking since he knows he's a defective omega w/o his pheromones. In the end, this isn't a wholesome story really. I'm still continuing reading to see their baby tho XD
I also believe in second chances and everyone deserves to be loved, that's precisely why I think redemption arcs are a must when there's abuse involved.
I like wholesome stories but I don't look for it in everywhere, certainly not in this one, I just think this one in particular lacks too much to make a good story with well developed characters and plausible consequences for their actions.
Sorry but I don't buy that kind of copping mechanism. Is the same if you say Ed Kemper's copping mechanism for all the abuse he suffered from his mother was to kill and rape college girls.
Exploitation and abuse isn't "copping" with anything. It's the exactly opposite.
I agree with you about all the doormats bottoms out there, I also have a huge dislike for that kind of characters and stories too. One of the reasons I really tried to read this one was because I thought it was going to be different but, after 40 chapters, it's the same plot you see everywhere, the only difference is that the abusive asshole is the omega.
I think it's important to remember that the ML isn't Jeonghyuk, the dynamic between Jae in and Taewoon need to be looked at independently.
Jae in was always taking his suffering out on others instead of doing something about the real perpetrator, like a pathetic coward.