Disappointed's Topics (37)

nah ah, if you hated TBMD this i
here is no story for you

Thanks for telling me

This is worse than Beast Must Die, I really prefer psychopath for ML than a narcissistic man-child with raging inferiority complex.

I liked beast must die as seme was literally a psychopath also trying really hard to change.. but this one right here is just drowning in his own inferiority complex and straight up selfish

exactly that

I have to disagree with your opinion about TBMD, I admit I don't remember much of the details since it was many years ago, but I hated so much because it's that same neko trope that falls for the guy that raped, abused and humiliated him without any "redemption arch"... I usually drop that kinda content fast, but I tried to the bitter end because I wanted to see if the ending would be different because the tachi had the "psychopath excuse", even though he probably isn't really one.

But we all can agree to disagree. I confess I wanted to see the neko getting him in forever in jail or killing him, but I that's me.

I can't say anything about this one because I've only read 3 chapters and came to get your insights on the toxicity and character development.

i don't think they've been dating for 7 years based on the timeline ig 2 or 3 years (idk if these events happened after yuri's story or during it) since both r n college so i think yohan is 21/22 while his lover is one year older than him

Yohan said he's in his third year, they also served the military so it's +2 years, if I remember correctly, they were together since he was in second years of high school, so it's around 6~7 years...

Even if it was 2 or 3 years, for me, there's no excuse to deny you have a partner.

true.. denying ur partner is like denying the whole relationship tbh

Pisses me off, really

fr fr im glad im not the only one thinking about this and a lot of people are pointing it out

Me neither. At least the author kept it short.

SPOILERS.

I read the raws & this side story WILL be emotional, but it does work out.

Omg could you spoil what happens please TT

Not here, please .｡:ﾟ(;´∩`;)ﾟ:｡

Can I get the raw please

Every time I try posting the link, the comment doesn't post at all. Not sure if there's a trick to??

Trying this.

newtoki332 com/webtoon/35948881

It's not official; I found it from someone else. It's also where I read Korean manwha that hasn't been translated yet. (￣∇￣")

Thank you so much ヾ(☆▽☆) thankyou for trying too ( ◜‿◝ )♡

Wait why are you hating on the ML what did he do? The ML wants sex yes but that’s the MC paying his part of the deal for the ML to openly date him though…..

are you ok in the head

If you think the way he treats mc is respectful and "healthy" you should review your values.

He humiliated, and forced him even though he was in pain without a care in the world, and that was only, like 5 chapters...
It's just disgusting.

i think most people go “goo goo ga ga prety picture” and dont bother to read or try to follow the story then get confused when people state something obvious ab it

Yeah, I srsly don't get why people go to such great lengths to deny abusive behavior...

If they are into that kind thing, it's ok to just admit they like asshole characters.

We aren’t discussing abusive behavior- I asked why the person who posted this doesn’t like the ML. Nothing to do with pretty pictures…. The MC has ever right to call out rape, tell him to stop, say NO, and also most importantly BREAK THIS VERBAL agreement between the two of them……… We are all reading the same manhua the MC continues to go on those “dates”.

Also slow your roll, I am NOT most people and I never go “goo goo ga ga” over pictures…….. this is a fiction piece of work and within the own Plot the author has shown to the readers the MC is a WILLING participant until the MC starts screaming bloody murder says he doesn’t want this, he will continue to be treated like that… and that’s exactly why it’s not “obvious” and I don’t care if it was humiliating and it’s not a healthy relationship because ITS ALSO NOT A REAL RELATIONSHIP….. it’s a god damn business deal

Stop making assumptions about strangers when you assume you make an ass out of you and me and you are over doing it

being forced to do something as a last resort doesn't make him a "willing" participant!! and just because it's a "business deal" doesn't give him the right to abuse and humiliate mc. like, his entire behavior and attitude is so fcking unnecessary!!! mc's life is literally being threatened by his brother... he shared his reasons and asked for help, and ML is taking advantage of that without disclosing anything about how he himself also benifits from this deal. MC has no idea what his agenda is, and yet is being forced to agree with everything he demands. The sex is not consensual in these circumstances!
additionally, this is supposed to be a mutually beneficial agreement so ML has no reason whatsoever to be a complete ass and treat mc the way he has been. He's acting like he's doing mc a favor, when in reality mc is also doing HIM a favor in return. He's being manipulative, doesn't tell mc anything, has rough humiliating sex with mc and gets off on it, and expect mc to agree to whatever terms he sets. If you can't see what the problem is then idk what to tell you

i dont think you possess basic reading comprehension. the mc CANNOT break the agreement or like he said his brother will literally fucking kill him. and my previous comment was a joke made to express the illiteracy of people like you, but again i guess your reading comp has failed you and you couldnt recognize something as obvious as that. and you literally said it yourself, you dont care if the relationship is healthy. so you RECOGNIZE that their relationship is manipulative, the sex is abusive and coerced/forced, and yet you are still reaching to “why do people dislike the ml??” HMM I WONDER WHY!!! theres so much more stupid shit that i could point out in your response but frankly i dont wanna waste more time on ur dumbass

If he is not a willing participant so why is he staying? If you are saying it’s the responsibility of the ML to care about the MC’s brother drama that’s not the case sis. The ML has not reason to be Prince Charming they are strangers and again not a couple. The MC is a pushover yes but this is also a fictional piece of work. That was consensual because if the MC said the deals off fuck you get off me or I’m gonna scream rape and sue, you really think the ML would have continued?

The fact that you use the brother killing him within the first line means you aren’t comprehending. The MC just wants to appear gay IT NEVER HAD TO BE THE ML, that’s who the MC choose. And I think it’s funny you think the MC is somehow forced by the brother to be with one guy like the MC doesn’t have the ability to start sleeping with other men. Instead of readers go ga ga over images maybe you need more REAL life experiences with relationships and dating so you can see how fictional a lot of these stories are and why people aren’t as emotional invested like you are, and immediately going “the ML is trash”. Just reading your comment a second time is so cringe worthy that you are on a completely different level of delusional when it comes to manga and manhuas……

Friend, I don't think it's about being "prince charming", it's about basic responsibility of being the guy doing the penetration.

I'm a top too, also dom in bdsm play, so I tell you that it doesn't matter if the relationship's casual, romantic or whatever, it's basic decency to not go past your partners limits since sex is supposed to feel good for everyone involved.

For me a guy that only cares about his own pleasure, humiliates and hurt his sex partner is trash, even in fiction.

Even contractual relationships, like you keep claiming to defend ml's behavior, needs to have the boundaries discussed properly, and they can change at every moment if one of the parties notices that what their doing isn't for them.

I respectfully advise you to look into rape culture for a better understanding about will and proper consent.
MC consents to the act but he isn't really "willing", since he's situation is about life and death, he's desperate enough to be unable to scream rape.
Even in real life, people, specially women, consent to do it unwillingly all the time because they can't say no for one reason or another.

You defend ml denying how abusive he is with so much passion, for me it looks like you're the one really emotionally invested.

If you enjoy stories with self centered assholes like this one, you're pretty lucky since they are the majority out there... But, please, do so with full understanding that this kind of behavior is abusive.
Denialism is dangerous.

I’m verse and I’ve been around the block, I am well aware of hard limits and safe words and what rape culture is. He’s no Prince Charming but this isn’t a relationship for me to look at the ML and have my mind immediately go into rape culture because again this is fiction- in a real life setting conversations are had before hand and me personally unwanted surprises are not dealt with by being passive. More than anything what is triggering me is random strangers trying to correlate how I view this piece of fiction and its characters to translating to how I would be in real life. The way it sounds like I am being lectured by no offense what sounds like someone in their early 20s when I am more than likely your elder did not rub me the right way in the slightest. You approached the situation differently than JP because JP went right to insulting someone and that’s not how you get your point across so I applaud and appreciate you for that..

Also I’m not defending his behavior per se I’m defending my apathetic attitude to the MC and ML actions. I just literally don’t even focus on their sexual escapades I care more about the plot. They aren’t in a relationship so I’m not judging the individuals as good boyfriend bad boyfriend. Also it was pretty obvious when you admitted to being a top and in the bdsm community that you are applying your real world standards to this - which there is nothing wrong with that. Also we literally have no clue if the ML treats an actual real lover with the upmost respect and providing so much tender love and care. You must also be pretty aware that everyone wear masks..:: that how someone acts around you might not be the same way they would act around me and making judgement calls on individuals with only knowing a tiny portion of their character is premature. If you want to focus on how the ML acted with the MC in the bedroom sure it was inconsiderate and a dick move but I’m not going to start labeling them as trash but that’s just my opinion.

The reason I mentioned rape culture was because of your discussion with jo. It didn't look like you understood their point about consent and will. I'm 10 years past my early 20s... Sorry if my way of speaking triggered you in any way, it's just that it doesn't make any sense to me how far you're going to defend the ml when you yourself admitted, in your words, that he was "inconsiderate and a dick", and that was the whole point about my statement.

It's exactly because it's fiction that I can say, by the way he acted, he's trash. I hope the author give him a proper character development so he evolve into a decent human being, but as far as I read, he's just a selfish pathetic asshole who mistreated mc because he's full of issues.

I usually care more about the plot too, but, like you said, it's hard for me to not apply my real life standards when I see abusive behavior, I can let it slide when I see promising plot and characters, unfortunately it wasn't the case with this one.

There's no reason for anyone to offend anyone, we can all agree to disagree.

Dude i wish i read this before i read the manwha. 0_0 i had to skip most of it bc it was boring and just so poorly written.

Agree with the start, I had to take a break from 30+ chapters but continued the raws and actually liked it. It's of course not perfectly written but it has some good points tbh
1) the alpha being on the receiving end
2) good communication on the pregnancy news (i think everyone was expecting a chasing arc XD)
3) the message of giving a second chance not at the toxic ex but at someone who actually treats you right
4) Jae In being the same as Jeonghyuk is one I actually noticed and liked tbh the difference between them is that Jae In moved on now. Jeonghyuk also needs to get a life tbh

Sorry I just can't see anything good about this.

Omega abused, confined and raped the alpha and never had a redemption arc, they just showed his sad past and, because alpha has a huge mommy issues towards his omega parent, he saw how Jae in is pathetic and decided to take care of him even though he is just unredeemable trash.

Other thing that enraged me is how Jae in mistreats other omegas.

Giving second chances to whom? You mean at another relationship? Because Alpha always been good to him, Jae in is the one who needed to beg for forgiveness.

I noticed people tend to be a lot more lenient when the one being mistreated and raped is the top. For me that's actually pretty personal because I've been in a similar situation where the person I was dating used they suffering to trap and manipulate me. We were only friends but I was coerced into dating because I cared. But since I'm a top, people don't sees it as rape, not even me at the time. Thanks to all the gaslighting, I actually believed it was all my fault for being incapable of reciprocating their feelings.
It's been more than 10 years but the scars never fully healed, to the point I lost interest in being with people (I used to be bi, now I'm ace).

Back on topic, Jae in moved on because he had all the support in the world from friends and ml, he didn't do a single thing to deserve it.

I agree with Jae In's redemption arc, the author really hasn't gotten into it. I don't know if it'll be explored in the side stories or if the author focused too much on Jeonghyuk but I am satisfied at the ending. Yup, I'm talking about second chances in another relationship!
Also thank you for being brave in sharing your story, but yeah readers tend to be more lenient with it bcoz of the change in dynamics. I mean it's fictional, I just hope they're not like that in real life. It's something new and for an omegaverse it's one of the few out there. Doesn't make it right ofc but still. I agree that Jae In might have not done a single thing to deserve the good people he has right now but then I'm someone who believes everyone deserves a good support system.
I don't know but maybe I'm also just projecting into Jae In I've read too much foolish MCs that one of the things I liked about him is that he didn't flinched and hesitate when his ex told his "reasons". His attitude towards other omegas is the coping mechanism and his insecurity talking since he knows he's a defective omega w/o his pheromones. In the end, this isn't a wholesome story really. I'm still continuing reading to see their baby tho XD

I also believe in second chances and everyone deserves to be loved, that's precisely why I think redemption arcs are a must when there's abuse involved.

I like wholesome stories but I don't look for it in everywhere, certainly not in this one, I just think this one in particular lacks too much to make a good story with well developed characters and plausible consequences for their actions.

Sorry but I don't buy that kind of copping mechanism. Is the same if you say Ed Kemper's copping mechanism for all the abuse he suffered from his mother was to kill and rape college girls.
Exploitation and abuse isn't "copping" with anything. It's the exactly opposite.

I agree with you about all the doormats bottoms out there, I also have a huge dislike for that kind of characters and stories too. One of the reasons I really tried to read this one was because I thought it was going to be different but, after 40 chapters, it's the same plot you see everywhere, the only difference is that the abusive asshole is the omega.

I think it's important to remember that the ML isn't Jeonghyuk, the dynamic between Jae in and Taewoon need to be looked at independently.

Jae in was always taking his suffering out on others instead of doing something about the real perpetrator, like a pathetic coward.