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Idk maybe I don’t get straight couples and the context changes a bit when their relationship is already so rocky but… I feel like this conflict is a bit forced— I feel like most people wouldn’t really mind if some things to said were quoted directly FROM romance books; that’s honestly really endearing and legitimately happens ALL the time.
I feel like they could’ve played more into Gavin’s friends knowing about it if he had revealed something uncomfortable. It’s a little more reasonable that people prefer marriage issues to stay between them
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Ya I literally didn't see what the issue was, it isn't really that big of a deal. The point was that he still meant those words but he was jus taking inspiration from places that can relay those feelings better. Also I feel like the sister is a bitch for doing that, she sees him trying hard and knows that this would make him look bad (when it shouldn't but whtev).
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Also guys… why r y’all blaming Inez for what’s going on? Yeah it’s very manipulative but y’all are forgetting how high the stakes were for her…
She was essentially a sex slave literally getting raped to DEATH (via the STI’s and pregnancies that would fail anyway.)
Y’all are like “yeah but it’s still wrong to use people!” be serious.
It isn’t righteous but personally I wouldn’t feel a fraction of guilt that she does if I were her and that’s what it took to never have my life depend on another person/a marriage again.
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Bruh, i don't care if it's just manipulative. But don't go putting dirt on innocent people's names and give them ptsd. If Carcel really was a d after they got married and she uses that to her advantage, i'd say you go girl.
I still have some hope in our girl though. She'll go for it if Carcel cheats on her fr, but I don't think she'll be forcing him if he's innocent. I don't think this is her plan, they don't have a child yet so she's not so desperate to get out
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Then why she did to Carcel when didn't involve in any of her past lives misfortunes?? Why didn't she gets revenge on the crown prince or even her brother? Oh yeah, you didn't know? Bc she saw Carcel is easily to manipulate and she's been doing that since they're young. I love both of them and they deserve to happy but to defend her? Lmao FEEL THE GUILT, INES
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She is absolutely desperate to get out… as a woman of this era the only way she can have autonomy over her life is to have a divorce and be seen as a respectable woman. The last time she didn’t have autonomy she was essentially stuck getting slowly r*ped to death. She’s escaping that type of control society has over her life rn and fans are not on her side because…….. she’s being an asshole ?? Have some nuance
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I don't understand why you defend her rn. She wants to accuse Carcel of being a cheater. Why can't ppl blame her?? She had reasons, yes. Doesn't mean this is right to do even she's desperate. You can see how other comments shit on carcel even though ines was the one planned this. This is HER plan and yknow who's the victim? It's Carcel
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She can’t be the one at blame, otherwise she won’t be respectable by society and won’t be able to hold wealth or any sort of power by herself. She’s not right, but she’s not a bad person for it and since the stakes are so high for her, comparatively hurting his feelings really really really badly and reinforcing a reputation he already got himself is kind of irrelevant imo.
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Buddy I think u just look at pictures and don’t read the story because if you comprehended media it would occur to u that, in this story, this wouldn’t be happening to a man because a man would never have to fight through these hoops in order to have the basic right to feed and provide for himself… which u could say is like… the MAIN premise of the story and the big message here
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Why tf am I weirdo for calling her out? Her pasts leads her to being toxic manipulating innocent man tht never involved in her past lives misfortunes. You're the one who should touch some grass. I like her character and I understand her circumstances and traumatic past but you still can called out your fav characters if they did sth toxic. bc it's true?? Why can't you admit that? She knows it and admitted it too. Why can't I called her out? Why of all ppl, innocent person who done nothing except helped her in past the one become her victim?
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Unpopular opinion: I wish this was an even slower burn and that we didn’t proceed with a madly in love ML plotline so quickly. In the beginning I saw two people who had been with eachother from childhood— and although Carcel disliked her he also never imagined a life without Inez on the simple principle that he’s just known her forever (same for her.) I think if he were jealous in that weird co-dependent/betrothed since childhood way and not in a “I love Inez so much!” way it would be much more compelling.
That complex balance of disliking someone but also seeing them as intrinsically part of your life is so interesting… I would’ve liked to see a story where he and Inez have reasons not to like eachother very much but since they’re both nice people they still keep up their responsibilities to eachother, try to help eachother, and work as a team for this arranged marriage and then actually fall for each other little by little from this camaraderie. I feel like it’s more authentic that way.
Right now it feels like Carcel literally just likes her body. He barely talks about anything else and to be fair he has nothing else to go by except a fake smile she gives people.
I think there were opportunities to get her to HAVE to open up that just haven’t been explored either… like in her past life she was constantly worried about her figure— maybe she always refuses desserts in this life but Carcel notices she really likes them when she can have them and gets her something nice or finds a low calorie dessert that won’t be too triggering to enjoy until she can get out of that mindset altogether.
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She is Inez and she’s sharp as a whip and incredibly traumatized but she’s still Inez… she’s a person who still has random likes and dislikes, quirks, sayings, habits, random interests, and favorite forms of entertainment that she has no reason to hide even if she’s reserved. Those are all things to fall in love with… (And Carcel is like “Her smile with her friends is giving me a hard on : ]!” )
I think Inez could’ve been characterized a bit better too now that I’m writing this.
Surely she didn’t spend every single waking hour of her life to work on the plan… that’s not realistic no matter how big the stakes are.
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UM… wtf is with this racist as fuck art?? This blows
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I’ve found that a lot of manga or webcomics that have black characters that have big exaggerated lips that often look worse than in this and in popular mainstream comics and anime. I honestly think most of the artist don’t know how to draw black characters and then copied off of other racist drawings of black people. The amount of non racist looking I’ve drawings of black people I have found been very few in in mangas and webcomics. If they are in webcomics it’s mainly one that was created by an POC or created by some not in South Korea or Japan. I’ve just hope that more artist would do their research and create better looking black characters.
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This fucking sucks… why should I give a fuck about an ML who kills women bc their FATHERS asked for a marriage… and this is just to make the FL look better? Boooo wonky ass art too
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To be honest with you I didn't read this manhwa but i saw some tictoks about it so i have a general idea about it but still I'm not reading this cause the ml's a jerk..but to be honest with you guys ml is supposed to be a jerk and a huge red flag cause he's a real devil...Devils are supposed to be red flags and if they are not then they are not actual devil thats there nature...I mean in most manhwa they would introduce the ml as devil cause of his cold and serious personality but he would still have some morals cause he's a human not an actual devil but this dude was introduced as an actual devil he's supposed to be morally corrupted and not feel any remorse even if he kills people or is shitty to the fl...
But I'm still not reading this though I don't wanna burn my freaking braincells over it!
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Please learn to consume media better .
He ISN’T supposed to be a terrible person though. I know for a fact that he will not be evil to the main protagonist at all in like 30 chapters because this is a shoddy dime a dozen romance isekai.
I will eat my fucking hat if this turns out to be commentary about how violent men control women or something- swear to god I’ll delete my comment. But realistically? After 20ish chapters in we are meant to forget that he kills women because he can and maybe even feel good about it because it’s a testament to how much he loves FL… water down a bridge.
We live in an age where women are hit with bricks because they upset men, killed daily on the news, and are constantly SAed on TV to move the plot, killed, tortured, etc. We are SURROUNDED by violence in all directions on all outlets— and author want to use murdering women to characterize a character as a little bit mean but in a sexy way? That’s disgusting. You need to reflect on why I you haven’t even thought about these things.
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It's just a story though? I don't even fond him attractive. I get what you mean and I actually hope he doesn't do 180 and turn into good boy bc this story is interesting. He's a Devil, he is not supposed to be kind, he's supposed to be mean and that's why I atleast started reading this. It's interesting to see things like this in manhwa bc you don't want them in rl, It's weird guilty pleasure and I think you sre taking manhwa too the heart. Yea I read stuff like this but I would never like a man that kills or abuses others nor me
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He literally is not supposed to be someone who is seen as cruel and evil though or else the tone of the story would look a lot more sinister. It’s clearly not lmao. My issue isn’t about consuming media with amoral characters it’s when the author clearly doesn’t think they’re bad… it’s completely jarring dogshit writing. If he was supposed to be evil there are legit SO many other ways to portray that
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I agree. I’m okay with having sensitive topics and morally grey characters.This story tho portrays this particular topic in a way that makes it seem like the author’s agreeing with or saying the characters actions is no big deal. Lazy writing that just makes the author seem like a weirdo. Also it’s so damn boring, same old shit. A character being more nuanced (than evil guy doing evil shit cause he’s the devil + gets the girl in the end) is much more interesting. To me, criticism about this story and character is completely valid. I only excuse this type of thing in a smut manga, still weird but I’m not gonna complain about a story where 80% of the plot is sex.
In the beginning I was soooo irritated with Cliff. Yes the author has influence but something about a man getting man at a woman who has 0 influence over who she’s marrying rubs me wrong. He has ALL the power! but knowing what we know now, knowing that Cliff thinks she’s giddy about having forced him into a marriage makes his reaction a lot more understandable. Idk when you think about how she must look to others it changes things a bit and makes for more understandable character choices… one of my top isekai irks is characters acting too extreme or being inconsistent based on what is needed in that moment and I thought that smoothed it over nice
Cliff is the big brother who's still under the writer's influence.
I believe you mean Killian
Oh whoops- yes I meant Jillian
Killian ** OJLKIHUG