This dumb fucking bitch bro Dan leaves then he’s all like why??? Oh I don’t fucking know maybe it was the rape or the all time disrespect like what’s blud on abt
Rape? Dan literally sold his ass to him for top dollar with full agreement to whenever wherever. We out here shaming sex industry now? Amelieshuman
Most people have the decency to treat the people they pay for sex not like absolute shit and follow any rules required of them? Also that implies Dan had been part of the industry in the first place which no, Dan not only is inexperienced but he also said no or to stop multiple times and JK does not respect that in any way. Even if in contract, that still counts as SA because Dan in the end still feels violated.
Also shaming the people working in the sex industry? Hell no. The sex industry itself fucking sucks hard tho.
Then perhaps Dan should have set some actual rules. He is a pushover that allowed himself to be led around from the get go. For all his no and stop, from what we are shown it was not about no to sex, just no to how rough and hard it was. Being embarrassed and being violated are not the same thing.
From Jaekyung’s perspective it seems like he is treating a service employee shitty. A truly dick move from a dick of a person, but calling him a rapist for having rough sex with an inexperienced person he is paying for sex is like saying he assaulted a waitress because he yelled and kept sending food back
Then perhaps Dan should have set some actual rules. He is a pushover that allowed himself to be led around from the get go. For all his no and stop, from what we are shown it was not about no to sex, just no to... Amelieshuman
Naw not the victim blaming But also even then that is SA, if someone is rough and you explicitedly want them to stop and they don't that goes beyond the line of consent. That is very far a sign of embarassment during sex my guy. Maybe Mingwa wanted to portray it that way but that gets completly lost on me and several other people. Also those 2 things are not comparable at all because he is not taking over anybody's bodily autononomy or even personally involved with the waitress in that case. Now if he directly did yell at the waitress, throwing food at her as well as calling her useless (which honestly seems in character for him) that would be a case assault and much more akin to what Dan is experiencing.
I don't even have a problem with you enjoying this story or even the characters honestly, I have a problem with you not comimg to terms with the fact it is SA realistically. It makes me think you are not able to sever reality from fiction and that is really bad.
Naw not the victim blaming But also even then that is SA, if someone is rough and you explicitedly want them to stop and they don't that goes beyond the line of consent. That is very far a sign of embarassment ... BoxyTrash
I think we are just going to continually disagree. It appears to me that in your opinion anything other than purely loving and catering sex is assault. Lack of comfort and lack of consent are to separate things. It isn’t victim blaming, I don’t see an assaulter and his victim; I see an asshole and a pushover.
I do not view reality as black and white as you seem to. Some people are just assholes and bullies but that doesn’t mean they are criminals. It’s not an inability to separate reality from fiction but rather an understanding that these characters are two adults and as we see in the season finale Dan was capable of leaving at any time.
I do not even necessarily like Jaekyung I’m just sick of seeing the rape accusations thrown around so loosely when both parties agreed. Especially with how obsessively hateful the readers are towards this character it feels less like a real understanding of what rape is and more like that stupid “I don’t consent” meme.
I think we are just going to continually disagree. It appears to me that in your opinion anything other than purely loving and catering sex is assault. Lack of comfort and lack of consent are to separate things... Amelieshuman
I think we are just going to continually disagree. It appears to me that in your opinion anything other than purely loving and catering sex is assault. Lack of comfort and lack of consent are to separate things... Amelieshuman
Yeah and I see the exact opposite for the way I perceived the story. And I actually want more "hardcore" depictions of sex but one where it's obvious both characters are in some way in on it. But I yet again do not perceive that in Jinx at all.
People have a geniunly good reason to call him a rapist considering not only how the story shows him as an abusive asshole especially during sex (which yes doesn't mean he is a criminal but the way how he is potrayed in the sex scenes does not help his case in that at all) but also how Dan reacts very negatively to his actions which maybe we are supposed to take as him being embarassed or discomforted but like I just see a guy being violated. I geniunly thought this could maybe be a psychological story at first. When I think of embarassment or discomfort this is not it. Both parties agreeing and one being able to leave at any time (which in terms of the story is very dubious considering Dan literally didn't have much choice) does not tell anything about consent because things are also not black and white in such matter.
I think the biggest problem is that I feel we barely get Dan's thoughts on how he feels about this (or how he feels about anything else but how JK might be feeling atm in that matter he is a very poorly written character) besides him suddenly falling in love with JK.
We can geniunly disagree on this that's fine this is geniunly just how I see JK and you might just take him very differently.
Yeah and I see the exact opposite for the way I perceived the story. And I actually want more "hardcore" depictions of sex but one where it's obvious both characters are in some way in on it. But I yet again do... BoxyTrash
You are entitled to your opinions, and I appreciate that you avoid ad hominems and insults. It's perfectly fine to disagree.
However, Dan's feelings for JK didn't develop suddenly; there have been many signs since the first chapter. In chapter 41, Dan's thoughts clearly indicate that his feelings have been growing for some time. Heesung has also mentioned it on several occasions. Dan is not being violated. He is scared of sex and is a sexual assault survivor. Dan had a choice. He is an adult and he made this choice and he could had changed it. But he lied.
It's easy to jump to conclusions, especially when a story takes a long time to unfold. Preconceived notions can form, and even when the story provides new information, some people might stick to their initial impressions rather than fully understanding the evolving narrative.
People might have good reasons to label him rapist at the beginning, but as more of the story and characters are revealed, that conclusion becomes less valid. Judging someone based solely on initial impressions or the thoughts of others can be misleading, and if we all did that, we'd often find ourselves mistaken. He is not a rapist but a sexual assaulter. Jinx is non-con but not rape.
To truly understand the story and its characters, it's important to read it carefully and analyze the details. Take the time to consider the development of the plot and the nuances of each character's actions and thoughts. This approach will provide a deeper and more accurate understanding of the narrative.
HAHAHAHAHA CAKEVERSE FORKS AND CAKES WTF IM ACTUALLY CRYING, WAIT SO YK OMEGAVERSE GIVES OFF PHEROMONES SO LIKE IN CAKEVERSE DO THEY TASTE LIKE CAKE??? WHATS GOING ON HAHAHA
This dumb fucking bitch bro Dan leaves then he’s all like why??? Oh I don’t fucking know maybe it was the rape or the all time disrespect like what’s blud on abt
Rape? Dan literally sold his ass to him for top dollar with full agreement to whenever wherever. We out here shaming sex industry now?
Most people have the decency to treat the people they pay for sex not like absolute shit and follow any rules required of them? Also that implies Dan had been part of the industry in the first place which no, Dan not only is inexperienced but he also said no or to stop multiple times and JK does not respect that in any way. Even if in contract, that still counts as SA because Dan in the end still feels violated.
Also shaming the people working in the sex industry? Hell no. The sex industry itself fucking sucks hard tho.
Then perhaps Dan should have set some actual rules. He is a pushover that allowed himself to be led around from the get go. For all his no and stop, from what we are shown it was not about no to sex, just no to how rough and hard it was. Being embarrassed and being violated are not the same thing.
From Jaekyung’s perspective it seems like he is treating a service employee shitty. A truly dick move from a dick of a person, but calling him a rapist for having rough sex with an inexperienced person he is paying for sex is like saying he assaulted a waitress because he yelled and kept sending food back
ok maybe rap was the wrong word, but like you get what I mean righttt
Wtf where’d my emoji go
Naw not the victim blaming
But also even then that is SA, if someone is rough and you explicitedly want them to stop and they don't that goes beyond the line of consent. That is very far a sign of embarassment during sex my guy. Maybe Mingwa wanted to portray it that way but that gets completly lost on me and several other people.
Also those 2 things are not comparable at all because he is not taking over anybody's bodily autononomy or even personally involved with the waitress in that case. Now if he directly did yell at the waitress, throwing food at her as well as calling her useless (which honestly seems in character for him) that would be a case assault and much more akin to what Dan is experiencing.
I don't even have a problem with you enjoying this story or even the characters honestly, I have a problem with you not comimg to terms with the fact it is SA realistically. It makes me think you are not able to sever reality from fiction and that is really bad.
I think we are just going to continually disagree. It appears to me that in your opinion anything other than purely loving and catering sex is assault. Lack of comfort and lack of consent are to separate things. It isn’t victim blaming, I don’t see an assaulter and his victim; I see an asshole and a pushover.
I do not view reality as black and white as you seem to. Some people are just assholes and bullies but that doesn’t mean they are criminals. It’s not an inability to separate reality from fiction but rather an understanding that these characters are two adults and as we see in the season finale Dan was capable of leaving at any time.
I do not even necessarily like Jaekyung I’m just sick of seeing the rape accusations thrown around so loosely when both parties agreed. Especially with how obsessively hateful the readers are towards this character it feels less like a real understanding of what rape is and more like that stupid “I don’t consent” meme.
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Yeah and I see the exact opposite for the way I perceived the story. And I actually want more "hardcore" depictions of sex but one where it's obvious both characters are in some way in on it. But I yet again do not perceive that in Jinx at all.
People have a geniunly good reason to call him a rapist considering not only how the story shows him as an abusive asshole especially during sex (which yes doesn't mean he is a criminal but the way how he is potrayed in the sex scenes does not help his case in that at all) but also how Dan reacts very negatively to his actions which maybe we are supposed to take as him being embarassed or discomforted but like I just see a guy being violated. I geniunly thought this could maybe be a psychological story at first. When I think of embarassment or discomfort this is not it. Both parties agreeing and one being able to leave at any time (which in terms of the story is very dubious considering Dan literally didn't have much choice) does not tell anything about consent because things are also not black and white in such matter.
I think the biggest problem is that I feel we barely get Dan's thoughts on how he feels about this (or how he feels about anything else but how JK might be feeling atm in that matter he is a very poorly written character) besides him suddenly falling in love with JK.
We can geniunly disagree on this that's fine this is geniunly just how I see JK and you might just take him very differently.
You are entitled to your opinions, and I appreciate that you avoid ad hominems and insults. It's perfectly fine to disagree.
However, Dan's feelings for JK didn't develop suddenly; there have been many signs since the first chapter. In chapter 41, Dan's thoughts clearly indicate that his feelings have been growing for some time. Heesung has also mentioned it on several occasions. Dan is not being violated. He is scared of sex and is a sexual assault survivor. Dan had a choice. He is an adult and he made this choice and he could had changed it. But he lied.
It's easy to jump to conclusions, especially when a story takes a long time to unfold. Preconceived notions can form, and even when the story provides new information, some people might stick to their initial impressions rather than fully understanding the evolving narrative.
People might have good reasons to label him rapist at the beginning, but as more of the story and characters are revealed, that conclusion becomes less valid. Judging someone based solely on initial impressions or the thoughts of others can be misleading, and if we all did that, we'd often find ourselves mistaken.
He is not a rapist but a sexual assaulter. Jinx is non-con but not rape.
To truly understand the story and its characters, it's important to read it carefully and analyze the details. Take the time to consider the development of the plot and the nuances of each character's actions and thoughts. This approach will provide a deeper and more accurate understanding of the narrative.
It's not been the reason. Tbh I'm praying for both their downfalls Dan is so fucking stupid