erwane April 22, 2024 6:53 pm

The shou said that he has a sense of shame. Where did his sense of shame go when he slept with his sister's boyfriend behind her back? Am i the crazy one or are rhe commenters the crazy ones for supporting such a couple?

erwane January 14, 2024 5:15 am

truthfully, despite lyle's background (his a**hole grandfather and lack of support from parents), his inferiority and very very very low self-esteem still feel just weird and... i am not sure how to say but it's kinda not possible.
Come on the guy is a nobility, he doesn't lack money to see a therapist or even ten who will walk him through his feelings and trauma to process it slowly.
Besides, can't you really just speak your mind to your lover and talk about what'a bothering you??
And that ash guy, Gosh, I don't like him. He was definitely leading Lyle on bc that's not how FWB relationships work. You don't get affectionate with your partner after the deed. Boundaries should already have been set before they started fking around.
And, on their first meeting on that café or restau or whatever, I still don't understand that sudden I won't be attracted to s1 like you shit. The whole scene was abrupt.
Then again, if all what happened didn't happen, we wouldn't have this story.
Don't mind i am just overly rationalizing things.

    HungryHippo January 14, 2024 5:47 am

    Hmm, the whole therapy thing is not as simple as it sounds. Some view it as a sign of weakness. 'why can't I just be normal?' until recently, mental health has always been a very taboo subject. Therapy = pussy LOOL. Like you go to therapy? "You NEED to grow up; everyone has problems". Slap in some toxic masculinity from all those older men around him, and slowly, it became internalised. You end up feeling like a little bitch who can't get their shit together...
    Do you see what I am saying?
    The FWB stuff. Personally, I don't think affection after is necessarily problematic if you like the other person as a human being. Being nice doesn't equal leading someone on... however, considering how out of touch Lyle was, I can see how that could've been an issue, but in the same breath, if Ash treated him like a hook-up... I think Lyle would be in the DEPTHS of depression... as in borderline sueeweesighdel fr

    But hey, maybe, I need to re-read some stuff only time I felt like Ash was a cunt was when he was at work and said that stuff that made Lyle cry. Even the sexytime talk when he kept mentioning other alphas wasn't horrible to me. Just wasn't Lyle's idea of hot and steamy loooool
    all in all, we've learnt these motherfuckers need to *say it with me* COMMUNICATE!!!!

    erwane January 14, 2024 6:39 am

    *COMMUNICATE*
    I know the whole therapy thing being perceived as weakness, especially in their social class. But hear me out, Lyle is 30+ year old man, I believe if he had enough guidance, he would and ahiuld have sought it out, especially considering today's technology.
    Many therapists are working remotely now and people can even avoid video calls if they so wished. It might hinder the healing process as the therapist can't read your body language but it will work to some extent in Lyle's case.
    For the FWB thing, it's very easy to catch feelings if the partners spend time together after their hookup. For most people in those relationships, such things are a big no-no but most often, the person who catches feelings doesn't say anything and keep going in a torturous cycle of "is there a possibility the other also has feelings for me?" "today, he invited me to watch a movie. Maybe he has feelings for me after all" and so on and so forth.
    Truthfully, Ash has been crystal clear about him not falling for Lyle and I dare even say showing a bit if dislike at the thought (he was clearly somewhat offended), so suddenly beinf this overly gentle and concerned is a leading imo.
    He might have not done it intentionally but he sure has been quite the as*hole some other times like you mentioned.
    Then again, it's just my preference working here. The character don't really feel human to me very much and i just simply dislike Ash as a character. Not because of Lyle or anything, I just dislike his character.

    IsolemRashlum January 14, 2024 11:20 am

    The reason for Ash saying “i wouldn’t like someone like you” has been cut out in the manhwa. Before meeting Lyle, Ash was hanging out with Nick, he also had a crush Nick too (Nick is Kyle’s husband, Kyle is Lyle’s younger brother). Lyle doesn’t like Nick as he already saw Nick hurt Kyle’s heart multiple times and he believed Nick couldn’t make Kyle happy. While AshNick were “dating” (Nick doesn’t like Ash, from my opinion he kinda used Ash to define his feelings for Kyle) at a restaurant, Lyle saw Nick’s being with Ash and misunderstood that Nick had an affair with Ash behind Kyle’s back so Lyle were offended and said some rude things to Nick. Because of that, Ash didn’t have a good first impression on Lyle as he didn’t want to see his crush getting scolded. That’s why he said he wouldn’t have feelings someone like Karlyle in their meeting at the restaurant. Besides i think he also want to assure Lyle because Lyle said before that he didn’t want to have any unnecessary feelings in their FWB relationship

    erwane January 14, 2024 1:34 pm
    The reason for Ash saying “i wouldn’t like someone like you” has been cut out in the manhwa. Before meeting Lyle, Ash was hanging out with Nick, he also had a crush Nick too (Nick is Kyle’s husband, Kyl... IsolemRashlum

    oooh so that's how it is.
    I never understood that chapter but now i can see why they reacted the way they did there.

    IsolemRashlum January 14, 2024 3:24 pm
    oooh so that's how it is.I never understood that chapter but now i can see why they reacted the way they did there. erwane

    There’re many details that got cut out in S1 so it would be kinda confusing when you only read the manhwa because all of the things that got cut out explaining why Ash is the one chosen to be Karlyle’s sex partner or why he said he wouldn’t like someone like Karlyle

erwane November 2, 2023 5:30 pm

I didn't understand a damn thing.

erwane October 18, 2023 12:11 am

Am I the only one that is worried the baby qill caught the ML's illness by gettinf close to him and sleeping in the same room? o.O

    Eli October 18, 2023 12:23 am

    I thought the exact same thing…. and the fact how MC is sleeping in the bed with his baby- I was immediately thinking about those PSA’s against co-sleeping :(;゙゚'ω゚'):

    erwane October 18, 2023 1:55 am
    I thought the exact same thing…. and the fact how MC is sleeping in the bed with his baby- I was immediately thinking about those PSA’s against co-sleeping :(;゙゚'ω゚'): Eli

    yeaah i also got concerned but it seemed like everyone is fine with it. It made me doubt whether im overreacting.

erwane August 21, 2023 6:11 pm

I read in an edited youtube video that the husband ends up with the lover, Idk if they were being for real or just joking.

    Yanixi August 24, 2023 2:38 am

    Ain’t no way?!?!? Σ(っ°Д °;)っ

    erwane August 24, 2023 2:42 am

    I am not sure really after reading for a while. Guess they were trolling :') though I was it was true (end up together I mean).

    Miow August 24, 2023 7:50 am

    I don't think so !!! Serena and Eiser are the main characters.. whatever drama and shit happened in between.. they will always end up together

erwane August 20, 2023 6:44 am

Spoilers









First of all, let me say that I am glad there was no rape or noncon in this, although I still think the bathroom scene is still dubcon.

Second of all, I cant help the immense disappointment and frustration I felt as O continued to read.
At first I was like, wow, this is nice I should def recommed it to my sister after I finish it but oh boy,..
I am not sure if the problem is in the translation but cant Shi guy tell the difference between "frustration" and "hurt"????
If someone you like (even if you are not aware you like them yet) tells you that they feel no desire to kiss you when you are practically just a few cms apart and that they only slept with tou because you are an omega, normally tou would feel HURT as a primary emotion (if that a thing), not "FrUsTaTeD" okay???

Both characters aren't really "good" people. One goes around saying hurtful things and ruining your date and the other using another guy even though he KNOWS he isn't into him, giving that poor alpha false hope.

Also I dont know if I am taking the story a little too seriously, but I can see just how miserable that Shi guy will be with thay ki whatever something guy.
I could clearly picture Shi guy giving his all to the relationship while the other just acceptinf and giving the bare minimum.
If this is a relationship is real life, there a 99,99% chance that it will end in break up even if it lasts a decade or more.

My biggest problem is that Shi guy seems CLEARLY aware thay their relationship is off but he is still easily satisfied by a kiss??? and is like Oh Well, it doesn't matter teheeლ(´ڡ`ლ)
Come on, boy, work thay brain of yours a little and save yourself from future misery.

Anyway, the beginning was good and all but it just went downhell from then on.
Would I recommed this? Not really, but if you are in dumb main characters who just keep falling despite the glaring red flags then sure fo ahead and read it. Good luck to you.

erwane November 29, 2020 5:33 pm

hwan that bitch

erwane November 2, 2020 8:29 pm

I knew hiiragi was in love with yuki and i think he really take yuki from mafuyu even if it's unintentionally and now he's doing the same thing again i really cant like him no matter what ughh

    Moon November 2, 2020 10:24 pm

    I don't think hiiragi was in love with yuki tho, that's just the assumption that shizu is making, they showed in previews chapters that hiiragi is in love with shizu, I think once they communicate and understand each other a love confession is going to happen

    erwane November 7, 2020 5:03 pm

    i really do hope so if not i'll always feel uncomfortable whenever reading this manga

    erwane November 7, 2020 5:04 pm

    well now that im thinking about it it could be that hiiragi was just envious and hoped to be that close with shizu

    Moon November 8, 2020 9:11 am
    well now that im thinking about it it could be that hiiragi was just envious and hoped to be that close with shizu erwane

    Yup, this is exactly my thought process

erwane September 18, 2020 3:30 am

offfff this is so fucking toxic
i feel like someone is suffocating me while im reading it

erwane August 15, 2020 4:50 am

Idk why i just eant athy to hate her father
He was toooooo cold, ruthless and unfair towards her in her last life and even hurts her feelings in her current life
Truly his such a big ass

    TodoNagi August 15, 2020 5:19 am

    Idk if you aren't caught up with it yet, but she literally just explained why he was cold.

    erwane August 15, 2020 10:14 pm

    well im pretty sure she didnt the only thing she that when he looks at her he feels uncomfortable if you think thats a good reason for being cold toward her then i have nothing more to say

    TodoNagi August 15, 2020 10:34 pm
    well im pretty sure she didnt the only thing she that when he looks at her he feels uncomfortable if you think thats a good reason for being cold toward her then i have nothing more to say erwane

    When he looks at her he's reminded of his only love who died giving birth to his only child, and he removed all memories of her mother because they were painful, so obviously he's going to be "uncomfortable" around her. I think being reminded that the love of your life is dead every time you see your kid is a perfectly good reason to be cold, especially when he's the emperor and every feeling and emotion he shows can be used to exploit and kill him. It also gives him migraines, which is why he accepted Jeanette so easily. You really need to read the story again if you can't understand that.

    erwane August 15, 2020 11:00 pm

    if you really think that one must hate their child because it reminds them of the one they loved then youre absolutely unreasonable and ruthless and also ive read thins manhwa too many times so i sure am understanding the story
    well if you dont agree with my opinion theres nothing to be done in the end everyone had their own judgment

    trash August 19, 2020 1:12 pm
    if you really think that one must hate their child because it reminds them of the one they loved then youre absolutely unreasonable and ruthless and also ive read thins manhwa too many times so i sure am unders... erwane

    the uncomfort comes from the black magic that claude used on himself to forget. he is uncomfortable because the black magic is literally causing him pain everytime he sees athy. he doesn't hate her, it just literally pains him to see her.

    ofc he's still a little cold especially cause he also used another spell to kill his emotions but we've seen how he acts when those two spells aren't getting in their way. they've had a good relationship before the amnesia happened so why would u wanna abandon than just cause of claude's clearly unstable state?

    i respect that people have their own opinion but it didn't seem like you fully understood the story so far. i hope i helped.

    bhosutinax August 19, 2020 2:00 pm
    When he looks at her he's reminded of his only love who died giving birth to his only child, and he removed all memories of her mother because they were painful, so obviously he's going to be "uncomfortable" ar... TodoNagi

    "I think being reminded that the love of your life is dead every time you see your kid is a perfectly good reason to be cold."
    -YO WHAT??? Are you serious with that statement?? I'm reading this slowly and it does not sit well in my stomach. That DOES NOT give you a good enough reason to abandon your child. RESPONSIBILITY. HUMAN DECENCY. HUMANITY IN GENERAL.

    I empathize claude's childhood. I really do. But that does not give him an excuse to disregard his daughter just cause his lover died giving birth to her. If he didn't want a child fuckin use a condom man. Or don't shoot it in the hoop wtf. It's like people are saying it's the kid's fault for being born. Nuh uh. If my parents did that I'd want to crawl back in my mom's cooch and pray to be transported to different cooch and live a different life. It. is. not. the. child's. fault.

    trash August 19, 2020 10:24 pm
    "I think being reminded that the love of your life is dead every time you see your kid is a perfectly good reason to be cold."-YO WHAT??? Are you serious with that statement?? I'm reading this slowly and it doe... bhosutinax

    remember, claude used dark magic to kill the tiny bit of emotion he had and to forget athy's mom. any humanity will basically be gone after that. diana's death hurt him so much that he had to use dark magic just to make it easy on him because he wasnt taught about how to deal with emotional problems properly.

    so whether you sympathize with that or not, i think you're missing the significance of having a bad childhood. if that's how you grew up in life, it's very rare for someone to act any different than how they were raised. most times they will is if they see another influence and there was clearly none of that with claude until he met athy's mom who, again, he chose to forget along with his emotions.

    having low eq plus getting headaches when seeing someone isn't rly a good combo dont u think? let's not act like we wont be grumpy when we're hurt because of smth we cant control. let's not act like we dont unintentionally hurt the people we love because we're going through smth. everyone has gone through this same experience albeit at different intensity.

    TodoNagi August 20, 2020 2:12 am
    "I think being reminded that the love of your life is dead every time you see your kid is a perfectly good reason to be cold."-YO WHAT??? Are you serious with that statement?? I'm reading this slowly and it doe... bhosutinax

    This story isn't set in our modern way of living. This is set when every emotion you have towards someone is going to be used to kill you or get you out of power. Old views such as women are objects and you must kill to succeed are still very much a part of this story.

    I wasn't saying it's the child's fault. Nobody is perfect, especially an emperor who rose to power through murder and fear. But just like when new mothers develop post-partum depression, this is very much the same case. Also, keep in mind that he could have personally murdered her at any time and no one would question his authority in doing so. His actions aren't totally justified, but there is reason to why he would act this way and understanding that is crucial to your understanding of the story.

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