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Trauma does a lot of things on a person. The lady might've said something that triggered it, causing him to push Haneul away. (A flight or fight situation.)

THANK YOU! <3

Still!!! If this setting in reality you can tell it's toxic af(actually I can understand it's happened) , but yaoi story always make happy end... can't wait Taeso regret having mc for grant(hopefully author make it dramatically tragic) at least got MC's worth deserve

then just dont read this.

If you have not read it, you can't have an opinion about it. "I don't get why it's so poplar?" You have not read it. Jaekyung is redeemable. Why does your feedback mirror the haters of this story?
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And just saying ....by writing this comment you are helping it trend more. The more people comments and make topics, the more it trends and gets even more popular.


Most here are here as hate readers. But don't trust the comments.

Wdym this is popular? Can't you see what updated comments all about?
At this point people just come back for the revenge arc, in which I doubt will happen.

maybe it should be "Then just don't comment here" Because they are helping what they are against. It is in the popular list because of all the topics and comments being made. Most of these comments if your read are from hate readers. If they stop commenting this could stop being in the popular list here. I am saying could because if they stop then fandom could start writing again. There are more in the fandom than haters.
I am low-key thinking the hater readers are part of the fandom but afraid to admit they like Jaekyung or the story.

I see this Manwha on insta all the time and majority of the comments on the main feed are about this. So trust me I dont read it but I am a proud and avid hater of it!

Lol!

I don’t. But can’t I hate it regardless? ;(

I am just waiting for the bottom to power up and be unbothered

Yeah he isn't even a decent human being

How is he redeemable ?

One thing you have to consider is she purposely making him look worse than he is. However, she has given hints to his real personality. Yes, he is toxic and has bad behaviors. His personality is not his behavior.
In his behaviors has he killed Dan's family members? Has he beaten Dan like those loan sharks or worse? Did he confide Dan? You may think Jaekyung has raped Dan but if you understand the characters, the story, and the terms, Jaekyung has only sexually assaulted him and sometimes with sexual coercion. Has Jaekyung tied him up and savagely raped him? Has he choked him to he passed out?

He paid off Dan's and Dan's grandma's debt. He allowed Dan to live with him. He has taken care of Dan many times. He had not left bruises on Dan.

The worst he has is a bad temper, not able to handle his emotions, and sexually assaulting Dan. Chapter 34 he will regret it. When you understand not take what he says at face value, you will start to understand Jaekyung more. For when he said he hates flowers due to him being jealous and when his penthouse has plants and one has flowers, see 45 and 46.
It would seem he has never been in love before and doesn't understand those feelings. He has to learn.

He is reacting in a bad way due to anger issues and more.
He does not know how to express his real feelings and hides them. Heesung says this.

Let's take chapter 45.

First, he is already injured.
Second, he has a headache via having a hangover.
Third, he's bombarded by unwanted expensive gifts that is invading his space.
Fourth, he is confused about last night. This could be considered rape because he could not Consent to sex being drunk and Dan was willing to take advantage of that situation, being tipsy himself.
Fifth, nothing is helping him get better.
Sixth, he learns the reason Dan has been going out, sleeping when he should be working, and rubbing blood on him without noticing. It was for him. He has been worried and he learns all that was for him. It is probably something that has never happened to him. Someone so close to doing something so genuinely.
He covered his emotions but anger and lashed out.
sixth is a man-child and don't know how to handle that.
Dan needs to teach him but he needs to learn other ways when angry about communicating like the ones that attack you for noticing something.
He is a tsundere.

To go deeper, he had an emotional conflict or internal struggle having that reaction to a gesture of kindness that was all for him. He is not responding in a way that aligns with his true intentions and burying his real feelings. This is causing misunderstanding and miscommunication. And again, how she is purposely writing this is causing people to misunderstand him.

Now it seems we will get his side. Maybe people will start to understand him better than falling for the facade.


All kinds of emotions pop up that he does not know how to deal with it while feeling like crap and he lashed out. Many people do this today, even on this page.

It is what he knows but it is bad behavior that he needs to change.
You have to remember, that some people will bully the ones they like/love. Someone on here explained the soda situation but I forgot what they said. I am looking for that. It is an athlete thing from what I remember but they went more in-depth. It was interesting getting that insight. I wished I kept it.

He is a toxic man-child but yet, he is misunderstood and many want him to suffer or die without knowing anything about him. Are they redeemable? Wanting a character to suffer or die and they will harm anyone saying the opposite that talks to them. They can be redeemable and they are worse than Jaekyung because they are attacking real people to feel better about themselves and they may never change.

Now, Jaekyung needs to stop his temper tantrums and learn to be better. He needs to treat Dan, himself, and others better. He is acting out fear and insecurity (possessiveness is due to insecurity (research), from chapter 34, it is deep-rooted.)


many times, He is being disingenuous or insincere in his words but many readers are taking his words at face value. They are misunderstanding him. In addition, they are expecting a healthy relationship with clear communication instead of seeing the actual story. It, at the moment, is toxic and they are not boyfriends yet. They are in a transactional relationship that is now just breaking. Many readers think they are dating and want a romance. It is not there yet. Mr. Toxic has to learn a few things before they have a loving relationship. She already hinted they will be together.

There are stories with semes that have done worse but don't receive the hate as Jaekyung does. Jaekyung is nothing compared to the real toxic semes.

As humans, we are always changing, and sometimes for the worse but sometimes for the better. So for humans that have done worse than Jaekyung are they not redeemable?

Bad behavior is not justified. We can forgive the person if they change for the better. ""Amazing Grace" lyrics are based on John Newton's experience of receiving God's grace and mercy, despite the terrible things he had done."
John was an "English slave trader who became an Anglican minister, a hymn writer, and later a noted abolitionist, best known for his hymn “Amazing Grace.” His transformation from a faithless seaman to a man of deep faith is echoed in his work."

His actions as the slave trader is never justifiable. However, he changed, and he is justifiable. Not the actions. How many people did John Newton cause to lose their freedom to be slaves for the rest of their lives? But how many people did he free from being slaves? How many people have helped over the years with what he wrote? Amazing Grace has influenced many people, even today when he is long gone. Did he redeem himself? It would appear so and what he did was worse than what Jaekyung had done. A man-child who can't control his feelings, emotional conflict, or internal struggle to where lashing out is what he does and some behaviors are wrong. But is mostly verbal and most of it is being disingenuous.

If he is not redeemable then many in today's life are not redeemable. If you condemn him, you condemn maybe yourself and others. Many on this site are worse than him are you saying they are not redeemable when in fact they can change for the better? He is redeemable.
If he is not redeemable to you, you have an unforgiven cold world where no one is redeemed, not even you or the OP (Fayfay365).
Fayfay365 is being prejudiced and came here for attention. Fay has said they have not read the story and will not read it but hate it. They came here to get people to stop reading it but they came to stir up trouble due to their prejudice. I would never be proud to be calling myself a hater. It shows I let hate control me. Taking pride in hate and letting negativity play a significant role in their identity or mindset They are allowing hate to control them to hear their thoughts and actions could have harmful consequences for them and everyone around them. So being a hater and proudly saying it says they are here to cause trouble for them and everyone. They could be harming their own health. It will affect them if they continue on this path. They are trying to harm others too.
It is important to give something or someone a chance before forming an opinion about it or them. Without backstory or Jaekyung's side, no one can form a solid opinion about him. You can with the hints she has given but many overlook them to spew hate on him because they don't understand him by falling for the facade.

If someone handled a situation badly because they did not know how to deal with it or understand themselves, should they be unredeemable? There are kids with bad tempers and some worse than Jaekyung, are they unredeemable? Like are you really condemning him on his temper and him being disingenuous?

Please how can you write a think piece for a rapist??! LOLOL touch grass AND get help

Take your own advice since you are the one who needs it. You restort to lies and ad hominem fallacies.
First, He is a sexual abuser. He is not a rapist. Educate yourself.
Second "Touch grass and get help" are pathetic overused ad hominems on this page. It shows your immaturity and insecurities. Are you from gen Z?

What using pathetic lame ad hominems means:

Ad hominem: in other words, a personal attack, attacking the person instead of attacking the issue. an example of Ad hominem would be, "poisoning the well" which is a direct attack on the trustworthiness of the person making a statement instead of addressing the statement.

Ad hominem refers to attacking the person making the argument rather than addressing the argument itself."

They must not have a very good argument with the imposing and ad hominems.


Thank you for sharing you know you are wrong and lost.
if you are resorted to insults you know you lost.
Take your own silly advice. What you did was sick and inappropriate and shows you can't handle a civil conversation or be an adult.

Idk what this is about.
But I'm happy for you. Or sad that it happened.

Childish. Why even reply? That means you don't care. It is shallow and unhealthy.

HAHA what a loser

"When you judge others, you don't define them, you define yourself."

You are talking about yourself.

There are some insane person who willing to write long ass paragraph just to defend shitty ass seme. R you one of them or I just meet another member of that group #－.－)

Omg they also love to bring out unknown quotes like this.
R u them?? But if so aren't we agreed to conclude our hateful battle by blocking each other, so why can I reply yours. God I again met the same species Σ( ￣□￣||)

If I understand correctly you exposed yourself as a hater or trolling going with a lie to playing a sick mind game.
No one was literally defending the seme.
Just because someone writes paragraphs, it doesn’t make them insane, and if they want to defend themselves or something it don’t make them insane either. What are you on about? It is gross.

OMG. It is a well-known quote. If I am correct it was not a hateful or a battle. It was cyber bullying from haters and trolls on a few people who defended a rape survivor and they trolls played a sick mind game with them when they wanted to talk about the story. It was haters vs people from the fandom or who they thought were part of the fandom. The rape survivor hated the story.
I am not apart of them. I came to see if could get their accounts back due to the cyber bullying. My account is newer.
We are normal and don’t have to attack others to feel better about ourselves. What if I wrote -God I met another of the same species of troll. How do you feel. Why are you talking about the past with lies? Stop gaslighting and being abusive. Move on or learn the truth instead of spewing hate and nonsense.

Oh you are Mirin. You are a nasty little troll. Yeah, THEY NEVER DEFENDED JAEKYUNG!
It is a lie from haters. You are the one who drew a false interpretation from his comment. He blocked you and you harassed him on many topics. All because you took the wrong interpretation from his message. THEY NEVER DESERVED WHAT YOU AND OTHERS DID TO THEM. It was sick! All because you don’t want to be wrong in your opinion. Hey, Mirin stop the BS mind game on innocent people. Take responsibility for your misunderstanding.

So the one that blocked you, blocked you due to your hateful comments. Then you harassed them on different topics. It took you some time to learn he was not talking to you.

He has said multiple times he thinks JK is dull. the story is dull. He never defended JK. He tried to talk to you but you would not listen.

Two tried to explain to you what he meant which you did not listen but they never fully understood how you took it until you commented explaining what you thought someone meant in a comment a few months after.

He was not saying to only write positive and supportive feedback on Jinx. He was not talking about opinions. He is okay with negative feedback and opinions. From that one comment, we believe you made it like he was saying only to be positive and supportive when that is not what he meant at all. He was not saying don't have negative feedback.

The hate comments he was referring to were not negative feedback. You confused the two things and you would not listen to them. You wanted to be right in that wrong interpretation.
STOP SPREADING LIES. STOP THE SICK MIND GAME ON INNOCENT PEOPLE. It is over, move on. That happened in September, so move on and grow, grow to where you will admit you were wrong in your interpretation, how you treated them, and still are treating them.
He is part of the fandom and wants to talk about the story. He created a new profile so he could talk about the story when he wanted without getting bullied or lied about.

You (Hater/troll) vs people are part of the fandom and people who were neutral that never defended Jaekyung. It makes no sense to claim they were.

That quote is similar to what the bible says. ""Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. "

https://markmanson.net/how-we-judge-others

"If we believe that we’re victimized by society and deserve justice, then we will believe that others are victims of society and deserve justice as well. If we believe our value comes from faith in a higher power, then we will view others by their faith (or lack of faith) in a higher power. If we measure ourselves by our intellect and use of reason, then we will judge others through the same lens."

You are calling them insane people over a lie (gaslighting) and "the same species" as if they and I were different. What is that saying about you?

I called you a troll and hateful but that is from your actions and words with research. I am not judging you, that is what you put out into the world. You just wrote two offensive messages in order to upset someone or to get attention or to cause trouble. This is trolling by definition.
Another definition of a troll is "to antagonize (others) online by deliberately posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content."
You bring up things from September here and mentioning them here is irrelevant. Irrelevant comments with offensive comments to defame innocent people.
You are telling me you are a troll and how you deal with that situation in September is more evidence. I am not judging you but going off your words and actions. Both you can change. How about being an adult and doing the right thing for once? Grow into a better person.

Well, about us bring kinda trolls kinda joking is totally right.
I read through a bit. Gotta say, in the starting you've made quite a lot of harsh comparisons.
To each BL is their own level of harshness and over here we witness the cold Jaekyung, who as you mentioned, doesn't know how to love, and is super confused.
You've had some sort of emotional connection with his character. That's what this seems like.
I can't deny that Jaekyung is redeemable, however, it'd be better if it happened before he completely broke Dan.
Jaekyung did help Dan quite a lot but there's a certain way to take this in.
Chill mate. After a few chapters of displaying Jaekyung's cluelessness towards his assuming first love - Dan - I'm pretty sure all the reader's tudes will turn.
But for now, he will be hated.
At least it's not on the level of hate for Oh Sangwon (I hope I didn't mess up his name) from Killing Stalking.

At the end of the day, both of them is a character and I'm pretty sure, both, the author and the readers love how each character has played its part - that is, if the story is diligently carried out and not rushed and so....
XD

I read your comment twice and had to go read the my comment that you responded to try to fill in some blanks. You should look up what trolling means.

Those "harsh" comparisons were a reality check to what was being said. It is what people are saying, not me. It was a wake-up call. If it was harsh to you, you see what you have been saying or your friends have been saying?

Their comments don't make sense, there are worse semes that were redeemed.

I have some sort of emotional connection with his character by being factual and talking about the actual story??


I can talk about Jesus explaining......, Here... It is believed that Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit and he was born of a virgin named Mary. Three wise men visited him after he was born. Jesus performed miracles and is said to founded the Christian Church. Some scholars believe he was homosexual.

Scholarly the NT is all allegorical. Jesus never existed but is just a character like Jaekyung. He was made to be a martyr and to correct the religion from the OT.
I can explain about Jesus and things about the bible but I am apathetic towards it. I am an atheist. I will not defend the bible but I will defend what it says or don't say. It is just a source.
Are you going to claim while I am being factual, I had some "emotional" connection to Jesus? It made no sense to say what you said.

Sangwoo from Killing Stalking. He was cruel. He kidnaps people. He would abuse them. He would torture them and rape some of them. then he will kill them. He had no mercy for his victims or remorse for any of his actions. He had an attachment to his mother. He could never love Bum but in his own kind of love but Bum could be thrown away for that mental illness Sangwoo has.
Do I have an emotional connection to Sangwoo or Bum? I never read Killing Stalking and are you sure I read jinx? I could be using what my friends wrote who don't have an emotional connection. Why could you not read my comment as is? Why did you have to add to it? Adding emotions is what trolls do to their opponent to discredit them or look more favorable to their people when losing a debate. This is not a debate and you are replying to an answer. Did seeing Jaekyung in a new light threaten you and your opinion? I was explaining the actual story by explaining and enlightening as I answered the question. There were no emotions in my text. What triggered you to try to make me look poorly? It is funny you are telling me to "Chill" when there was nothing there. "OMG YOU GOT TO VIEW JAEKYUNG THIS WAY!!! THIS IS WHAT SHE MEANT!! STOP THE HATE ON JAEKYUNG."
Where is that in my text? Where are the emotions? Where am I saying don't hate Jaekyung? I don't care about people's opinions of a fictional character. Would you stop adding meaning to my text and making it look like I was trying to stop the hate on Jaekyung or letting my emotions take control as implied with "Chill". I did not write that way. I wrote factual and used examples. You do know "Chill' is controlling and since it does not apply to my actual comment... um yeah.


This long explanation was saying you are seeing things that are not there but hopefully just misunderstand a few things instead of trying to discredit me by being "emotional". When I am being factual about Jinx and using lines from the book https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/jinx/uu/br_chapter-179399/pg-32/
That has nothing to do with me.

Also, I can read most behaviors and understand them.
Sorry, mate. My comments are not about, him being hated. People can hate who they want. I wished it was two different words. It is about.... letting hate control you to where what is said goes against the actual story and facts. What is happening on this page is people who are being overly critical and attacking people who don't share their point of view. The fandom can not respond without a hateful response with attacks.
It is I am concerned about this toxic behavior that ruins this page and site. It is important that this should be a fun and positive space for everyone to enjoy their interests but it is not due to many hateful people. Positive space, not always being positive, it has nothing to do with comments or opinions.

My comment was very fandom and yet you are trying to make it wrong? Or I am out of place. How are you making this a fun and positive space? Why are you trying to ruin my experience on here because you did not like what the actual story says?
You should read my comment back without adding emotions.

My friend pointed this out to me.


"You should look up what trolling means."
My bad I did not mean for you to look up trolling in a dictionary.


What I meant was look up what it means to troll.
Look up "trolling is for cowards". You will find things like this https://www.ellevatenetwork.com/articles/7614-invisible-cowards-how-trolling-became-america-s-newest-ugliest-past-time
Or why do people troll
You will learn trolls exhibit "psychopathy, machiavellianism, narcissism, and sadism. '

They are sadistic or they have miserable life's and trying to feel better about themselves.

https://powerof0.org/how-trolls-are-born/

https://theconversation.com/new-research-shows-trolls-dont-just-enjoy-hurting-others-they-also-feel-good-about-themselves-145931

Nah. I just exposing you being ridiculous.

Why would I. You think I think I'm the most right, when its actually how you behave. Truly, people like you is pain in the neck.

Huh?
Is your head okay? Poor thing. Is this how you interpret things? There won't be a smoke without fire. You made those ridiculous defenders just some innocent bystander that got bullied. How laughable when its actually them who started the insanity. I just bless them with my response and time. Its quite a fun game somehow.

As I've told them, why don't you take your own advice? Because darling you need it for yourself.

"They never defended Jaekyung"
I don't know if this is pure blindness or you just want to desperately believe so. Why would they made that comment if not for defending a monster? Like, would they just create that biased comment just to say, 'anyway I agree that JK is such a jerk' . Bro, r u being serious??

Anyway, unlike you who apparently have time in the world to write those long ass paragraph, sadly now I'm not. Sorry can't play with you.
Just wish you're not run around to spread that dangerous idea of loving wretched character like JK.

What nonsense. They were innocent and bullied here. Being ‘defenders’ is a lie from haters. They were targeted harassed. You are still targeting them with lies
They don’t start it. It was here before they came to this page. “It quite a fun game” shows you are after them playing a sick mind game on innocent people. They stopped playing yours and your fellow trolls mind games.

I don’t value anything you say. Your opinion is invalid and exposes you as one of the cyber bullies who targeted innocent people for a joke. The haters started this nonsense since we can comment. The people you love to play games with came after and stood up to the sick mind games of trolls.
You are the villain here.

Stop and desist! Stop playing sick games on innocent people. Stop gaslighting and spreading misinformation on your victims. You think Jk is a monster? You are being worst to people that never deserved that got cyber bullied by you and others. You are so threatened by the actual story and the truth that you lash out on them. It is disgusting! You are emotionally abusing them and being manipulative. Blame them for your actions. Take responsibility for your behavior. You are being a monster here. You are no better than the JK you created. Be a better person and stop.

This? is a reason to defame Morning Diamonds. He did not attack. He was attacked by trolls. He stand up in what he believed in.

Please ignore above comment. Him and I are having a few problems right now. I promise i will take my schizophrenia medicine soon.

They are playing a sick mind game on you and your friends. They are offended by your maturity. They will never amount to being you. I get it now. If you feel offended by what they say, then it's directed at you. Reflect on yourself and grow up. Mangago users are so sensitive. . especially BL fans, can not handle opinions for shittt. people need to start humbling these individuals like the world doesn't revolve around you and ur opinions

It seems they hurt someone's precious feelings. If you can't handle people disagreeing with you save yourself the stress and stop commenting.

HARD AGREE its such a jumpscare whenever I go on this site

I wish I could delete this f*ckin comment. I was 16… there wasn’t much sense going on.