wacem's Topics (67)

I can’t believe it, a proper communication? In a yaoi manga??

Ikr? I seriously almost dropped this manga if not because the spoiler i saw in instagram

ikr i'm really scared when it comes to these two authors.... like what does the future hold TT_TT

LIAI had rape, tho

Love is an Illusion not only had rape but the MC looks like a 8yo kid which is disgusting (the fact that he didn't look like that at the beginning of her prior work just because he wasn't a bottom makes it even worse). Also, Fargo's first work isn't that serious, she just created some drama by romanticizing rape; it's never discussed how blond dude raped the MC, he just said sorry and he's forgiven because ~they find they were in love with each other and lived happily ever after~.

What's more, Hogu >>> Love is an Illusion because it is what it is. Aeju wasn't trying make it look as 'lighthearted and hilarious' when there's rape, no matter if it's just one or two scenes. And I hope Love Shuttle's universe keeps being the kind where apparently "not all alphas" lose control and rape. Just like Taehan and their workmates so far. We know Aeju wanted to make of Yule The Worst Dude Ever [tm] like she mentioned in the final notes of either S1 or S2, lol. So luckily this won't become rapey since it's not something she's necessarily that into like Fargo obviously is (in case it does and she takes it lightly like Fargo does in her works... well, there's always other webtoons I guess ).

You are a beautiful person of sense, I couldn't bring myself to read anymore love is an illusion after 10ish chapters. Everyone I've seen so far has been praising it, it's disgusting and cheap in terms of story. Thank you for being rational and being you.

Lol yeah, Fargo's works didn't really change, just have different tone. Though i enjoy Love is an illusion more because it's less confusing and have more comedy aspect . (Don't judge me, but because rape is a common trope in yaoi, it doesn't particularly bothered me anymore except when the storyline totally suck and stupid)

And yeah, aeju did better job so far with the way she write love shuttle. Like i said, the characters seems normal and sane it almost scared me with how it's so different with hogu hagyeongsu, almost like it wrote by different person if not because both stories have similiar storytelling style

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The winter tree or something, in the beginning the story told us that the tree is precious for tia because of her memories with the king but its actually precious for the prince and tia's mother too. That scene makes me thinking that tia forgetting her memories about her mother might be the main reason why the prince hates tia so much

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It could be one of the factor. But he didn't seem that annoyed with it. When he asked tia if she's remember something (about her mother and something related with that) and tia didn't understand what he said, he just like, oh she still doesn't remember it. He also seem kinda torn about wanting tia remember it but also worried what will happen if tia do.

I saw he's more likely hated tia's attitude after losing her memories about her mom, because from the prince's memories, little tia was a quite happy and cheerful little girl, even took the first step to reach the prince (with the kid's way, of course). After her mom incident, she got huge shock that most likely changed her personality, and the prince dislike it so much because the cold and indifferent tia was not tia he used to know.

But the current tia after turning back the time no longer cold and indifferent, but more warm, cheerful, and care. Only still losing her memories. So the prince feels nostalgic about it, thinking she's still similiar with her past self, and he didn't hate it. Just annoyed about why tia keep avoiding him lol

And about that winter tree, lol. Tia working hard to make the king canceled tia and the prince's engagement. But one incident involved that tree instead make the king more unwilling to let tia go. Good job, tia. Ahahahaha

Wow victim blamey much? Just because he was treated poorly by others in the past doesn't mean he can make it someone else' problem. The shock of losing her mother should also lead him to understand how that can change a person, if not when he's young, at least when he's older. So, yup, entirely his fault. No regrets for blaming him for something that's ENTIRELY his fault.

And his aunt and father are entirely responsible for what happened to his personality. This is one of the reasons why I don't want her with red headed boy, either because of the ****** person her mother in law would be. The other reason would be because his father just sat and watched as she was beheaded in her first life.

I still ship her with Allendis because he is still a child and finds it hard to believe in things he can't grasp. That's HIS personality and he isn't pushing anything onto her that doesn't have to do with her like blue hair does.

Thanks.

ok hold up how do u know what happens nxt?

like where did u read the rest?

Read again, i didn't said his action was right, i only said i could understand why he hated tia. I didn't even blamed tia. His cruelity toward her still entirely his fault, no matter what reason he has. But it's not illogical one. Even his inability to sympathize with other people was in line with him grew up without much love. No one taught he shouldn't acted hostile toward tia, and no one corrected him too, so he though his action was right. It's unpleasant, but still logical. Me trying to understand every character's situation doesn't mean it became victim blaming, just didn't let emotion reached my head.

About tia's mother, it mostly just my assumption because everything still unclear except some revealed facts : he used to have good relationship with tia and her mother, but changed after tia's mother death and something happened after it. But it's true he didn't hate tia just because tia lose her memories, there's something else.

Btw, isn't the emperor already dead in the past? That's why the prince who became emperor can acted as he please included beheaded tia. Man, he seriously total bastard in the past. So i prefer to focused with tia's current situation, included neutralized my prejudice with all character because the situation clearly different than before. Even the prince's didn't hate tia anymore (at least until chapter 75, he didn't shown any hostile feeling, it mostly confused and curiousity toward tia)

I read the translation? LOL. It already updated until ch 75 in Indonesian, only 3-4 chapters behind the raw.

In Indonesian webtoon platform, Webcomics. Only 3-4 chapters behind the raw

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Here is more updated oh-my-manhwa.blogspot.com/?m=1

Allendis lmao, no. He's not mentally stable. I dont see any action from his father. His mom and brother are scared of him wtf. Karsein's mom is indeed a bitch but his father is truly wise man, i love his character the most compared to other fathers, not even tia's father. Plus his older brother is such a sweetheart too. The mom is like the only bad apple in the family but its obvious that tia only thinks of him as friend and will only be friend

No. You need to re-read what I said. I never said you blamed Tia, now, did I? And the fact that you mentioned it means you think it carries some weight. However, that has nothing to do with why I called your comment victim blamey.

And you just doubled down on the reason why I DID call it victim blamey. After all, every one in reality always focuses on the tragedy of the real life abuser, never anyone else, victim or not, so I would also suggest you're sharing a POPULAR, not unpopular, opinion.

And, yes, blue hair was already acting like an ass in the present life. He intentionally interprets her fear as impertinence. If it's not intentional then why is he calling it fear NOW when earlier, like I said, he implied it was impertinence?

Yes, he is mentally stable. His older brother and father treat him like shit. The fact that you think they're scared of him is you thinking up is down. Mentally unstable people are those who treat others like shit for no reason whatsoever, after all. (Exactly like his father and brother did to him.) If Allendis didn't change the way he treated them because of that, that is when I would consider HIM mentally unstable.

So a man who watches someone else' child get beheaded without being concerned about it in any way is much better than the person who tries to stop it, in your opinion? Yup, confirmed. Up is down in your world. Ktbn.

"So i prefer to focused with tia's current situation, included neutralized my prejudice with all character because the situation clearly different than before."
THAAAANK YOUUU SOMEONE WHO I AGRED WITH!!! Im not a fan of the prince ( im in team red hear), but im really really sick of hearing people telling shit of prince and forget it that the version of the prince did do nothing bad and until now is personality seems differents... everything iiiis diiiffeeerents and everything will be diiiffeeerents. and for some reason there's still people shiping tia with the green hair yandere (While you are at it, yuno X yuki was the "greatest couples), seurieusly that seems really unstable.
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Still unpopular opinion because most people still have same opinion like you about this webtoon. And how it's became victim blamey just because i understand the bad guy's life tragedy? Really, all i trying to convey is, everything's happened because it has reasons to be, and circumstances to tied all the things together. I gave my opinion as something like observer who didn't take any side. But I only explained from the bad guy's side because we are all already know Tia's situation.

About why the prince changed his opinion about Tia, it could be just first impressions? She didn't do what people usually do when meet him, so he though she's being impertinent. But after a while he realized it's more likely fear rather than impertinence. Yeah, the prince is an arrogant kid, even the emperor said it himself. And still, it could be rooted to his not-so-nice grown up environment.

IMO, most people just shocked with the prince's character because he's totally not your stereotypical male lead character you want to be paired up with our main girl. It's hard to point out his good trait but we as readers must endure his presence because the author decided up like that

Ahh thanks, i really wanna know what happened after ch 75. Will still read from webcomics though because it's ... legal and i can afford it to support the authors lol

Right? The people maybe still same but the situation already different. Take a note about how allendis and karsein who was total strangers before but now they became tia's closest allies. If both of them could change, why the prince can't change too? Because he was such an evil before so there's no guarantee he wouldn't become like that in present timeline? Ok, but it's same with allendis and karsein too, they also could be still strangers now, but they are not because tia. Everything starts from her, in the moment tia decided to change herself for her own sake and really did it, her relationship with another people also changed. Included with the prince.

Take another note in ... ugh it's spoiler for next chapters but whatever lol. In the past when tia danced with the prince, she fell and embarassed herself and the prince didn't do anything to help her. But now when that incident repeated, the prince hold her so she didn't fall and they ended their dance with applause. See? It's so simple but he changed, no? And don't make me start about what he said about tia in ch 77 lol.

Yeah, it would be good if tia ended up with karsein. He's the most normal one between the three, not creepy yandere like allendis or cold and arrogant like the prince. Him and tia's interactions also really cute too :3

yeahhh karsein my baby! i i wish they would end up together...


major spoiler, i think? since tia ended up with the prince in the present (i dont bother to remember his name lol), i heard that karsein /maybe/ ended up with jieun.