DorianGrey's Topics (99)

Agree, the novel is good!! Well written

Yeah but Killian managed to break free Cliff doesn't use his brain

Do you think that cliff really loves reeze ? Or was the author influence that made him like that ? Because he litterally betrayed the dukedom for this love but was he really under influence all this time ? Because right now the author influence is dead, he is always on reeze's side

That is what I mean, of you groom someone from young age, you can literally shape their emotions and mind into becoming whatever you want. That's why the case of the two bothers abused by their parents who killed them in self defense (people want a reduced sentence). This (fantasy) scenario is even more on favor of Cliff, because literal magic was preventing him from thinking by himself.

Actually, it is even worse, his character was written (by the author inside the story) to be a doll who does watever the protagonist wants. It's like you punish your DOG for giving you the paw when you taught them to do so, and dog would have been punished if they didn't learn.

Yeah, Cliff's innocent 100%.

ya except if I recall correctly in the novel he doesn’t even properly apologize despite knowing he was in the wrong Ijbol u can be a victim and a perpetrator unknowingly like nobody is saying he’s 100% born evil were saying there should be some accountability let’s bffr

Lmaoo he’s definitely not completely innocent. The author has him INFLUENCED not brain washed or under mind control. The literal proof of mind control/brain wash not being the case is because Killian started thinking on his own before the author even lost all their power. Sure cliff may have been innocent at the very beginning, but he’s already had a hand in things that resulted in people getting hurt. The boat incident was majority cliff’s doing, because he knew what lize wanted so he did it. She didn’t even ask him to do that.

After she lost all her influence in powers, cliff STILL loves her and even personally made a contract so that she would have the upper hand, which was that he had to defend/protect her and he couldn’t be the one to divorce her. He also was sad when they did get divorced. Also the parents still liked lize even when she lost influence over them (hence why they didn’t punish her in the novel)

This will get a bit complex, but spoiler, I still think he's innocent.
Two last points. Cliff, at this point in the story, was MADE a creep by the In-story author and nobody "unmade" the creepiness, like Edith with Killeon.
And the obvious, RLA wanted two clear-cut, no grey-area villains, SA and Cliff.

So, we have two authors and one semi-author: Real Life Author (big author), the author inside the story (Small author, In Ryse's body), and Edith. She counts as a semi author cuz she's written by RLA to influence the story in a significative way.

This is what I think happens here:

SA is a character who wrote a story, she literally created the two dudes and Blondie. Blondie was like an alter ego of herself, a fantasy she would have wanted to live. SOMEONE, probably a god inside the story made the character's fantasy a reality, SA gets to become Blondie and to live her own story (the god character wanted to give her a lesson because her characters are all unrealistic and superficial and she's a bitch).

SA doesn't get to leave the story until she learns her lesson, god sends several Edith's to CORRECT the story and teach SA to be a truly good person (and mature,I guess) and stop scheming like the snake she has become. Doesn't work. UNTIL this last Edith partly skill partly luck CAN correct the story and free the characters from SA, showing SA that's not the way.

In all this, SA and Edith, at least right now, are the only real people, all others are part of the story. This will probably change soon. Cliff was literally created, written and controlled by SA, EDITH got her hands on the rest sort of freeing them from their creator. It's not weird Cliff is a creep, which he is. It is weird he's the only creep. Probably Cliff ends up being a real person and was sent to be punished and his brother rewarded.

Two last points. Cliff, at this point in the story, was MADE a creep by SA and nobody "unmade" the creepiness, like with Killeon.
And the obvious, RLA wanted two clear-cut, no grey-area villains, SA and Cliff.

So this is just a theory, not based on the manhwa or novel. And you just want cliff to be innocent and blame it on the author only?

... Tell me you didn't understand without telling me you didn't understand...

It’s been a long while since I’ve read this but I feel like you’d like “The beast must die” basically it’s a psychopath love story (similar to this) but the main difference is
Is that the main character is pretty damn smart about it and def not as frustrating as the MC here

I've read bits and pieces of it and it's on my "to read for real" list, for some reason I wasn't as enticed with it.
Excellent psychopath-like and victim dynamic that I can recommend yaoi wise are:
A Painter Behind the Curtain
Killing stalking (obvs)
Tourou No Ori
Roses and Champagne

Not yaoi:
Guardians Of The Lamb
Generation's Queen Ling (first half probably)

I have more examples tho

I remember reading those yaois
The tragedy tag on Tourou No Ori always scared me so I haven’t gotten to reading that yet TT
But that Guardian of the lamb looks hella interesting thanks!!

That’s fair from what i remember it’s bit of a slow burn but it’s pretty quality

I would say the tragedy part comes from how dark things get, but it's not exactly "hearthrob" type of tragedy. The story is more "let's explore how black can a human soul can get" instead of "people die, sob, sob".
It does get very dark.

Everything is worse, in terms of the art. In just waiting for the threesome

Spoiler*****












Yeap, mans gonna get on his knees, cry and beg and everything. But Lily divorces him and requests him to act like strangers until her heart is ready to move on from the hurt. She promised she would send him the peridot necklace when she's ready. So after 5 years, Lily is settled as a viscountess and loved by her people, one day she gets help from Theodore while closing a rift. Then some events happen, a dying old lady asking her to find love and happiness, and Lily finally sends the peridot necklace one night. The same night, Theo comes rushing to her place, in just 2 hours lol (poor horse)

Alriiiight!

YESSSSSS I was worried she was just gonna stop and go back to him right away

I feel ya on point 1, the auther just made this prince the definition of a stupid spoiled rich brat, both his parents and ppl around spoiled him and gave in to his demands like shit give this guy a "no"

On point 2, turns out princess is the kid of the previous emperor that the current emperor dethrone. Cool story but keeping it a secret really backed fire.

The prince is an idiot and hate that the prinsess is smart and has scholarship achievement while his dumbass just has the title of prince and nothing else. His dad throw him into the military so he'd stop bing a petty brat and instead of learning anything he just became an even more entitled brat with extra thick head.

Yeah the prince is just a dumbass pos, period.

Thanks for both the extra sass and the explanation. I still don't quite understand how princess being the old regime's child without knowing, made anything worse for current brat. But well, many things are a mystery here, and not the good kind.

It's cuz the poor princess is of royal blood and has a clam to the thrown if anything ever happened to the dumbass prince.
Which the prince's hoe he got from war the slave bitch told him as much. And the genius that the prince is thought that the princess was among for his seat.
That were the "misunderstanding" came from but the idiot prince instead of doimg the sensible thing and talking to his dad of another possible (cuz why would you believe in a random hoe) royal bloodline. The idiot immediately thought the princess was out to get him.

Can you tell I loathe the prince??? Lol

I can tell that, and I can also tell the plot is even dumber that I already thought it was. Sigh.