honestly i was so excited for this read, its so hard to find a good bisexual comic to binge and the promiscuous snarky characters were everything to me, but i'm admittedly disappointed.
for whatever reason, im guessing the author could no longer make the comic and had to end it abruptly, entire side plots and tensions between the characters were just, forgotten.
and even as the story was progressing the characters themselves were rather one dimensional and i was hoping this would change with time but then i was just slapped in the face with a THE END.
i generally ADORE messy characters and drama but when said drama has no real payoff and when said messy characters are so poorly written i gotta say damn... this had the potential to be something really unique and interesting but it sort of crashed and burned.
at least the sex was damn good lol. if anything ill give the manhwa this, it appealed to my bisexual self greatly.
I know this ending is very polarising for readers, and I too think, its rushed, but somehow I feel satisfied. Like from the bottom of my heart I feel fulfilled, maybe it's stupid to think of these fictional characters in the same way you'd think of a real person, but they look so happy and content and that makes me happy and content. I was shocked and even a little sad that futaba and taichi separated.
Though to me I felt nothing wrong with taichi and touma now being together, it reminds me a lot of how every queer person discovers and adapts to their sexuality differently. My only qualm is that all of this hit us out of nowhere, unlike the usual way this story progresses we didn't get to explore the nuance of these new relationships or get to know how they've ended up here, we simply know this is where they are now.
I wish I could’ve seen more of everyone's lives, futaba and her husband, taichi and touma getting together, I'd have liked to seen it and I think it would have better justified this ending, if these progressions were properly explained to us. But if this is really it so be it, I'll always love this story.
yes yes I agree!
the ending is a bit rushed, but i think i can also understand why: this manga focuses on coming-of-age, first love, character development during puberty etc. In my opinion it did an amazing job portraying all those hardships as well as the fluffiness.
To show the whole process that comes afterwards - like going to university, moving out, stabilizing the relationship, first sex, fighting, making up, drifting apart etc. - and then also changing the relationship to Touma from friendship to romance, one would need countless of extra chapters. For each of the topics you could fill a volume or a small manga.
The author had to choose a (or rather: ONE) setting and draw a start-line and a finish-line.
Although I would have loved to read another 100 chapter about the characters, I think the content of the manga is truly great as it is :)
I wish we had an explanation like Taichi realizing his feelings for Touma in a near future but we jumped into them being together. I wanted them together but not like this
yes, I think you are totally right ! even if the ending wasn't truly satisfactory it was kind of almost inevitable, for what this manga is and what it set out to explore and discuss it did its job perfectly. even if this ending is abrupt or disliked, I'm never going to understand people that think its ruined the rest of the story, in fact I question if any of the content and messages behind the story even registered in their heads if they think that.
I can only hope that someday we'll get something like a spin off comic, or at least the author giving us more art and tidbits on the characters and what we couldn't see.
Exactly my thoughts. There were so many messages in this story, most of them brought me to tears so many times, even if i didn't like the ending i could never say that it ruined the rest. One of the best mangas i've read in my life.
oh goddd its ending soon, so soon
it cant do that i cant handle that this story has been so important to me for two whole turbulent years of my life im not ready for it to end, im not ready to say goodbye to these characters, i love them so much
ive cried so much of happiness and sadness and because i felt so understood and id never felt so sincerely understood before never by a piece of media like this, never in so many niche parts of life that no one talks about.
im going to be devastated but as per usual, i honestly cant wait for the next chapter, even if its the last.
kind of dont care who she ends up with, if anything i sort of hope she doesn't end up with either of them. but i just binge read this series in one sitting because the interactions between the characters are phenomenal this is such a funny and intriguing spin on the yakuza trope, yoshino is an awesome protag i find it easy to empathise with her, whatever yoshino wants i guess i'll root for
I'd rather hav her end up w/ Shouma tbh
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the fastest way to figure out if an lgbt comic was written by a straight person is if it makes use of the classic "why wont you endanger yourself by coming out to your clearly homophobic parents for me" trope, because I promise to you not a single queer person on this earth prioritises the acceptance of a bigot above that of their partner.
Eh, that’s far from true. Are you Western? You’re showing quite some privileged ignorance of Asian cultures. Western cultures tend to be more individualistic, which is why Westerners may feel less pressured when it comes to non-accepting family. But for Asians? It can get hellish in more conservative areas. You don’t know that even your extended family is tied to Asians. Look at K-Pop stars, why do they get the heat when a cousin they may barely be in contact with does something wrong? Because Asians tend to be defined more so by their ties to others. That’s why there’s the concept of “disgracing your family”. Family is extremely important, and so is filial piety.
For you maybe, it’s easy to cast aside your parents as being a bigot. But for Asians, they don’t see things as simplistically as black and white, good and bad. They know their parents took care of them. They love them. But at the same time, they understand that their parents are wrong and backwards in thinking. Same for your partner’s parents. You hope for their acknowledgement; it’s why you always see tropes where the unaccepted wife works hard to gain the mother-in-law’s favour.
firstly, I am asian, by blood and by nationality. believe me I am familiar with the concepts you have provided above because I experience the same pressures in my day to day life.
my comment was extremely exaggerated so I get where you're coming from. but at the same time you've done literally nothing but add to my point?
The concept of 'disgracing your family' the conservative attitudes, filial piety and the complicated nature of deviancy in asian society . . . the reason this trope makes no sense is BECAUSE of these exact pressures. queer people are hyper aware of their standing within society, violence and discrimination isn't something we are free of anywhere in the world.
coming out of the closet when you are member to an unforgivingly conservative environment is just about the most dangerous and difficult thing to do. all queer people understand this, and who would be more empathetic of a persons reluctance to come out to their conservative family other than that person PARTNER?
myself and many of my queer friends will probably never come out to our parents, will probably never be "out n' proud" because it would genuinely endanger our lives and our relationships with our families/peers.
this idea that it is something we must do to be free or to be empowered is offensive and harmful. straight people do not fully understand this, and so they romanticise this trope and all its emotional turmoil.
pressuring your partner to come out just because you have, is abusive, regardless of cultural context. there is a difference between a character seeking acceptance from their family by their own will and a character barreling into it like its an obligation to their partner.
you missed the point. i didn't say it was wrong or right.
you said there's no way an lgbt person would do write about lgbt people wanting to meet the partner's parents, so the author is straight. (that's pretty invalidating for someone who is gay to be told that they don't "act" like a gay person would. i get you're exaggerating, but it's still harmful.) so i explained that nope, and gave a cultural explanation. besides, even if they weren't asians, the scenario can be pretty common. if one person luckily had accepting parents and lived in a more welcoming community, he may not see what's the big deal about meeting his partner's parents.
just to repeat, i didn't say whether it was wrong or right. i explained so you don't dismiss this instance that doesn't seem like healthy lgbt behaviour as non-lgbt simply because it's not healthy. lowkey i was motivated because some people carelessly defend lgbt people since they are less privileged, for a lack of a better word, and that causes a lot of toxic lgbt people to be given a pass (or that "there's no way they could do that"). like that girl in the manhua who pressured her partner to come out. not saying you are that type of person, though.
again I understand how my exaggeration might have been taken if you read it as literally as you have, of course there is absolutely no definitive way for queer people to act, that notion in of itself is harmful I agree with you on that completely
though I never said a queer person wouldn't write about a queer couple meeting their parents? I simply stated that with the cultural context provided (actually even without it) that I found the trope to be very bizarre and misguided, that this idea of a queer person forcing their partner to come out to their parents for the sake of their relationship being so normalised is indicative of a fatal misunderstanding about how queer people function in society.
but I also apologize for assuming you were supportive of this mindset.
so to put it simply; a lot of lgbt stories written by straight people tend to include this specific trope somehow, and its become something of a joke in the community because of just how unusually often it happens. I don't mean to entirely dismiss the fact that it is possible in real life or that an lgbt person would write the trope themselves, just stating that its sort of become a stereotype at this point with how heavily romanticised it is in popular lgbt media written by straight people.
yeah i hope i wasn't too blunt. i agree with what you said in your reply about forcing people to come out, by the way, you're very right about that.
this was my exact thought when reading the prologue,,, but its to soon to drop this looks good so far (minus the come out for me part and the student/teacher that might come up later)
time to empty my tear ducts out to this again starting from the beginning i miss them all so much wahhhh