H.M.N.I God's Questions (29)

Why not

But why though?

the way that over 80% of bls wouldn't even exist if women didn't read bl. Genre would have been dry as fuck. I just wish gl was more popular too so we'd get more stories.

It is normal lol i mean women read bl more than anyone, be it bl or gl everyone have tastes and preferences

There is video essay analysis abt it on youtube

Look I agree with this statement 1000% but I still find it weird that women read books about gay males, especially as being a gay male. It’s just kind of awkward

I agree that it’s “normal” in a subjective opinion. But it’s kind of weird, the reason why is because you’re reading books about gay sex, with being a women. Like shouldn’t yall read GL?

Absolutely agree with you. Most of them time they don't have any proper justification to it either. "I just prefer it over gl" "they're just hotter" blah blah stop yapping and just say you fetishize gay men

I understand where youre coming from , it’s weird if that’s all they read , like that’s the only genre and they don’t branch out and read other genres . But there’s those groups of fetishizers in all groups . Straight women and they’re obsession with yaoi , men and they’re obsession with lesbians going at it . But I think it’s fine, if people who don’t have an obsession read it . Like I read all genres , all love types . Depending on what I’m in the mood for , gl , bl , straight love . As long as people aren’t weird about it , I think it’s okay . your feelings are valid though

Idk just because, I read all genres tho so I can't say I favoured bl more or anything
Just stumbled on it one day and I just keep reading that's it, no deeper meaning or anything

Just because someone read bl doesn't mean they fetishize gay men

I mean its just stories at the end of the day who cares

i never had the thought its weird perhaps bcuz I wasn’t the only woman reading it , i enjoy reading it its a pleasure reading most of the fujoshis have and i really like how some of them are so well written abt relationships, perspective of love from both sides and furthermore. I simply enjoy reading them and it gives me satisfaction thats all there is to it. idk if i sound reassuring or not but thats all from my perspective.

i do find it weid too but just for the straight woman that are literally obssesed with BL, it's so upsetting and disgusting when they fetishize gay male relationships. I myself am a lesbian and I really do enjoy BL, but it's not like that's the only thing I read, I like reading GL, straight, seinen, etc etc

oh and also GL is not as popular as BL, so it's really difficult to find well-written ones. I feel that I already read all of them lmao

Yes see I understand that, I read GL when it looks interesting, an interesting story is an interesting story but like just reading BL because of fetishization makes me feel uncomfortable

Yeah true I've met some straight girls that are obsessed with Yaoi and only smutty yaoi and are homophobic as fuck.

I (female) just don't read GL that often because it's usually on average very healthy, sane, safe and boring but I can usually get invested in their plots because they have a plot outside of the main romance that's usually good but the main romance is usually boring as heck. On average BL is usually better at the chemistry for me (don't get me wrong there have been yaoi that's just straight up smut though I don't read those because happiness>horniness) but usually I can't get invested in the plot unless it has relation to the characters like family or past friends and I can almost always get invested in the romance and dynamic but I can never get invested in their plots they always seem and feel like they're in the way whether this is because there's more BL I don't know.

My favorite GL "her shimcheong" is more of a historical drama than a romance as it is slowburn as hell. Also most GLs imo have the same dynamic of introverted edgy butchXextroverted popular femme but sometimes they also use downbad simping lesbianXstraight(???) woman not interested or hates the downbad simping lesbian (but not for long.)

I would like to add something to this thread about power imbalance. The relationship of two male main leads doesn’t bear a gendered difference of status/social recognition/everything that could involve male/female power dynamic. Maybe a woman enjoying a BL is also about enjoying a relationship without all of this as background.
I just thought of something else: since our societies these days are centered around men, maybe it’s not surprising that there are a lot of romance centered around them produced, and that mostly male characters are complex while feminine ones are not.

Coming from the fact that 99% creaters of bl are actually women , so reading is definitely not wrong and not different from straight storyline..

THAT'S MY FAVOURITE GL TOO
it's sooo good

Some other reasons for heterosexual women enjoying BL is for masturbation before you think it's weird or perverse imagine wanting to see a sexualized man you look at straight porn and most of the focus is on the woman and usually the man is average, underdeveloped or ugly but in BL the only one's to sexualize are the men so she does not need to search long for it and if one of them is effeminate she can imagine herself in his place.

Another reason is because it is male centered it is more likely to be well written and have 3 dimensional characters because misogyny in writing.

SIDE NOTE(feel free fo ignore): It feels somewhat ignorant to cast aside female sexuality as perverse and unecessary when previously the only other source women have had for pornography is erotic fiction that is to this day mocked. The most classic erotic novel trope to be criticized is kidnapping. on surface level this is because the desire to be abducted and wanted so much to just be plucked from your home is appealing but it might also be a redirection of guilt women feel at enjoying sexual acts. By removing the responsibility of being the sexual deviant and putting it all on the man then she gets to have all the kinky sex with none of the guilt or remorse of enjoying it and being labelled a "whore". And by being "kidnapped" she is also relieved of the guilt of running away from her oppressive restrictive social environment like a queer kid running away from a religious hometown there's still some fear and anxiety in hurting and disappointing the people who you care about and who care about you with your "selfish" "immoral" desires for flesh which you crave but cannot have for you will be seen as "sinful" for doing so.

Okay I didn’t mean to cause a whole discourse but my problem with this is because being a gay male it just feels weird to be fetishized by women. I understand people find their things to get off too, and that’s cool and all, but it just feels awkward to me. Especially like with living the gay life etc. I understand that mostly women create BL, and I’m glad they do because I like seeing gay representation somewhere, somehow. But it just reminds me of like how women want a gay bsf because they’re gay. That’s all…. Also I wouldn’t necessarily call it perverted because people like what they like, but there’s a lot of perversion in the community of Yaoi.

Yeah honestly I believe the term yaoi itself is a fetishizing term

Weren’t u just scolded by a bunch of people for being unethical and disrespectful towards art lmao

And do I care?

You should, birdbrain. Get out of here and stop reading manga, you piece of waste.

I’ve been reading manga probably far longer than you, I think about close to 10 years now. And mostly if you think my ai art is doing damage to the manga community, you’re surely mistaken. All these repetitive stories for some fast cash or should I say the gamer knock offs, including solo leveling is crazy… I’m tired of the same stories and there’s only a few out here that’s good like jjk and chainsaw man, etc. Even Rimuru is just another op character knockoff that barely grows since his power is just too over powered. I’m interested in seeing what regular people got to bring to the table who can’t draw but got good stories to tell. If the books be better than actual illustrators that’s not my fault, it’s just a bad story being told which is boring. ┑(￣Д ￣)┍

Also I’m a professional yapper (●'◡'●)ﾉ

nooo fren..if you do that keep it absolutely private between you. putting it out online is a big nono..never use ai for that

write a book

grab a pencil and learn how to draw

or learn how to draw

I understand these new comments, but I’m more interested in stories being made than artist taking time to make them. Art isn’t a issue if you have a good story

Oh no this isn’t for me, it’s a survey to see

No im not into that

No that’s too much work for real, we got to cut time which ai can do

Why? Ai is the new wave for fast production

why take away from real artist and their hard work though? people make money from just art itself..and now you’re gonna say to use ai and just replace that?? absolutely nottttt. ai art has a lot of flaws as well, it isn’t a guaranteed anything and i’m
unsure how many people want to read something where the person only put lines on the screen and no genuine art work.

How is it taking away from real artists? It’ll just include a community who wants to create stories but doesn’t have the necessary skills to make them. I’m trying to build a product for a generic person, who isn’t skilled in drawing but wants to post their own stories. If artists who know how to draw get beat, that isn’t the ai fault, because good drawing without substance is boring. But if it’s a good story and it get beats, like some of these gamer manhwa out here, than it’s time for the creation of new and better stories.

twin i’m not having ts argument with you that sounds dumb asl, pick up a damn book & pencil, learn to draw. art isn’t smth that people are just GIVEN, you learn it. it screams laziness

Ai is for lazy people but the more time changes we benefit from being lazy and want to produce faster ways, like a car is for lazy people who doesn’t feel like walking…. The skill of story making isn’t the drawing part, it just makes it easier to understand by looking at pictures. Cause a good story can have bad drawings like one punch man in the beginning

bro turn on a youtube video and WATCH….take an art class even. ohykgod make ur story with stick figures if it isn’t that important then. let’s not rely on ai art when there’s people with genuine talent in drawing who make living off it

Art is an issue when it comes to comics, the author draws the story to convey to the reader what it is if it's poorly drawn then story doesn't matter, i mean like for example solo leveling the novel was mediocre, but the manwha adaptation did a wonderful job taking it to a whole new level, so yeah art does matter if your doing comic. i think writing will suit you best.

Ai steals an artists artstyle if you didn't know, plus when was drawing the only way to convey a story? Theres literally writing it requires you 0 art skills

If you have 0 talent apart from uttering a bunch of nonsense then just close your mouth bro,

right they’re tweaking cause who the hell

Pathetic, would use the manga as a toilet paper nigga

It’s never that serious

I am, I’m finna be unethical ash

I'm a digital artist
Been making money that way for about 10 years now
And it pains me to see someone effortlessly use ai to create art, using the hard work of other artists like myself without even understanding its value

But at the end of the day I don't give enough fucks about other people's business
It's just annoying
I'm too lazy to do anything about it haha

onion boy go away

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Also this my thread lmao

i dont care it’s mine now go away

beat them up willow

You must be insane lol

S/he didn’t really say nothing, except that it makes it harder for artist to keep up with ai competition.

no im jjk enthusiasts..my username is not insane thankyou

ai sucks

I mean you just spelt insane another way lol

It doesn’t cause it’s the future of our society. The same way people said technology sucked, and didn’t want to conform to change. It’s part of life

what rhe hell does this mean

i’d support this if we were talking about dangerous jobs that are incredibly difficult and risky to do, but art?? seriously get out of my face with ts if u don’t pick up that damn pencil and watch art classes

Nah I said ai artists are assholes but I can't do anything about it lol
And also, it's not reliable enough so I'm not really worried
The designs come out weird with a lot of errors

A real artwork is detailed and every single thing in it has a meaning, while the ai work is obviously some random stolen images that a computer program blended together

An artist knows every single spot of their own artwork because they have put it there on purpose
And because of that, real art will always have its own buyers

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Bruh the "future of your society" can't even draw a proper hand with five fingers attached to it lol

So? Doesn’t affect how society works in a lazy way, inventions make it easier for us to be lazy. Like a dishwasher. It’s part of life move on

lazy ass get up and wash them dishes

Nah I’ll let the dish washer do it

i dont need a mf speaking of anything if they can’t even wash their dishes gtfo my face..

I can but why would I when we have technology to do it for us? Like hand picking small things off the ground when you have a vacuum, literally you’re reading books on a pirated site because it’s easier than going out and buying it? Like bruh lmao

you’re fully capable of washing dishes, and learning to draw. the fuck you think i expect you to use a microscope and pick up everything from your carpet?? dont act stupid lmfaaoo i don’t even care about the dishes LIKE SERIOUSLY but ai art??? cmon man lmfaoaoo and what do you expect me to do abt reading on here ?? hell you know abt my collection i could have a yaoi and yuri shelf with everything i’ve read tf

But why would I when there’s easier methods to go about it,it’s the same way as graphic designers being hated because it’s easier to draw on a tablet than on paper, again it doesn’t really matter how you feel, because ai manga is the new thing

it’s not a new thing you’re just being delusional i have never seen ai in manga, and even if that was the case it most likely wouldn’t go popular. who the fuck would want to publish you? ai isn’t real art.

Ai isn’t real art was like saying graphic designing wasn’t real art, but time changes. A good story has more weight than the art of the story. Sorry

onykgoood i really dislike you. then write a book i feel like im repeating myself atp

Gurl you're burning too much of your precious calories responding to this idiot

LOLL you’re rightt

lol Ok, when I create my ai website for manga creation, I’ll send it to you

Nothing I said was idiotic or can be disproven, again I’m finna make manga creation easy ash for regular people

and when it flops i’ll laugh in your face

“ regular people “ pick up that damn pencil

If it does doesn’t really matter cause I’m going to use it to create my book, that’s going to actually be the first use of my website. It’s going to be somewhat like jjk I think you’ll like it, but the name is going to be Deicide, pretty nice right

just find someone who will draw for you man

I mean I could do that, but to illustrate a book cost about 100-500 per chapter. And again I’m pretty sure if I don’t capitalize off of ai manga somebody else will. Like the people who did ai art or chat gpt

sigh

I mean if you got the money you can help. But we all reading on a pirated website am I right lol

i do have money but i am saving it for something lmfoaaaa sorry..do you have a job..?? i do buy webtoon passes for aslfua however so i am 1% higher than H.M.N.I God

I buy WEBTOON passes too so no you’re not lol

5% higher then the hell. i was NICE with 1%.

lol, when my website done and I got my first book on there, I’ll send you the link.. check it out

okay i’ll grade you

it is ai steals from artists

I understand that but ai is the future of the world, and I need new stories that isn’t about having a broken ability and saving girls 24/7

it can barely draw 5 fingers man ts ain’t Detroit becomes human be srs

Guilty

And too lazy to complete writing it too ╥﹏╥

I want to create manga but my art skill has a long way to go XD i will practice tho

Me, so I just dreamed of being a novelist lol

can be a great tool to STUDY since we know for sure it's pretty to look at but it's shit since it steals from other artist.

I honestly don't know, it's bad since it takes artists work without permission and people are less likely to commission artists, but on the other hand ai art looks pretty darn good sometimes (saying as an artist myself)

I despise it

BEGONE!!!

Everyone steals ideas from other artists but i think the prompt making is kind of unique

Referencing is different from stealing tho, prompt making is just the same as pressing a number on the microwave to cook the food

Kind of different I think, but I was asking so I can double down on ai art

I'll jerk off to it, I don't enjoy it beyond that though

My list of older men - https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangalist/2558323/

You'll probably enjoy Wolf in The House (supernatural) and Bongchon Bride (historical)

not this shit again...take your scam somewhere else...

Nope sorry, finna repost again

STOP THE SCAM PLS.

- STYX

Its not a scam and no I’m not going to stop trying to inform people that they can make money online

Nahhh, I'm LITTERALLY about to make a public form to clown an you please.

- Styx

I don’t care lol, only the mods can say stop because I have been on here since I was like 15, and they’re the only ones I’ll listen too

Never mind I’ve been on here since I was 11 , that’s a long ass time

And two of the horseman of the apocalypse, war and death read this site. They're god knows how old, Your point? Lol.

- Styx

Lol I’m just saying that the only one I’ll listen to is the mods, regular people whose telling me to stop can get on. I’m just trying to make money and telling other people how to make money. Simple exchange

LOL no one cares about this scam. you posted this like four times already and nobody wants to know. ppl are on here to read not earn "money" bruh

It’s not a scam though, you can keep calling it one but I can show proof. And you’re right people are on here to read but everyone loves and need money lol

Hope you enjoy getting restricted or banned

I’m okay with getting restricted, since Mangago had went down and we couldn’t communicate with each other I didn’t really notice when the chats came back lol. So, if I get restricted cool cucumbers.

If we need money, this is the last place we will go to look for one. Go to legitimate websites to post your ads. You cannot blame people for thinking you're a scam, because you're posting your ad in the wrong avenue. And the way you handle criticism doesn't hel0 with your credibility. Just my 2 cents.

fr why would anyone think it's legit when this is an illegal manga site.

True but if you see opportunities I think people would take them no matter what. Like if you go to a restaurant and see that they’re hiring for 17$ a hour, you’ll be like oh that seems cool, let me put in an application. I can’t blame them, but I don’t care… if people think I’m a scam I’m gonna defend myself and my paid surveys, cause it’s annoying when you do something and people be like “oh no you didn’t and keep calling you a liar ” lol. I am posting in the wrong avenue but so what, people were posting about watching movies and joining discords etc, if people think I’m a scam they should just leave me alone and find someone else to talk too; so I can find real people who believe me. I don’t like criticism, sorry. I love your 2 cents, thank you

I agree there ┑(￣Д ￣)┍ but so what, opportunities are opportunities