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Why not

But why though?

the way that over 80% of bls wouldn't even exist if women didn't read bl. Genre would have been dry as fuck. I just wish gl was more popular too so we'd get more stories.

It is normal lol i mean women read bl more than anyone, be it bl or gl everyone have tastes and preferences

There is video essay analysis abt it on youtube

Look I agree with this statement 1000% but I still find it weird that women read books about gay males, especially as being a gay male. It’s just kind of awkward

I agree that it’s “normal” in a subjective opinion. But it’s kind of weird, the reason why is because you’re reading books about gay sex, with being a women. Like shouldn’t yall read GL?

Absolutely agree with you. Most of them time they don't have any proper justification to it either. "I just prefer it over gl" "they're just hotter" blah blah stop yapping and just say you fetishize gay men

I understand where youre coming from , it’s weird if that’s all they read , like that’s the only genre and they don’t branch out and read other genres . But there’s those groups of fetishizers in all groups . Straight women and they’re obsession with yaoi , men and they’re obsession with lesbians going at it . But I think it’s fine, if people who don’t have an obsession read it . Like I read all genres , all love types . Depending on what I’m in the mood for , gl , bl , straight love . As long as people aren’t weird about it , I think it’s okay . your feelings are valid though

Idk just because, I read all genres tho so I can't say I favoured bl more or anything
Just stumbled on it one day and I just keep reading that's it, no deeper meaning or anything

Just because someone read bl doesn't mean they fetishize gay men

I mean its just stories at the end of the day who cares

i never had the thought its weird perhaps bcuz I wasn’t the only woman reading it , i enjoy reading it its a pleasure reading most of the fujoshis have and i really like how some of them are so well written abt relationships, perspective of love from both sides and furthermore. I simply enjoy reading them and it gives me satisfaction thats all there is to it. idk if i sound reassuring or not but thats all from my perspective.

i do find it weid too but just for the straight woman that are literally obssesed with BL, it's so upsetting and disgusting when they fetishize gay male relationships. I myself am a lesbian and I really do enjoy BL, but it's not like that's the only thing I read, I like reading GL, straight, seinen, etc etc

oh and also GL is not as popular as BL, so it's really difficult to find well-written ones. I feel that I already read all of them lmao

Yes see I understand that, I read GL when it looks interesting, an interesting story is an interesting story but like just reading BL because of fetishization makes me feel uncomfortable

Yeah true I've met some straight girls that are obsessed with Yaoi and only smutty yaoi and are homophobic as fuck.

I (female) just don't read GL that often because it's usually on average very healthy, sane, safe and boring but I can usually get invested in their plots because they have a plot outside of the main romance that's usually good but the main romance is usually boring as heck. On average BL is usually better at the chemistry for me (don't get me wrong there have been yaoi that's just straight up smut though I don't read those because happiness>horniness) but usually I can't get invested in the plot unless it has relation to the characters like family or past friends and I can almost always get invested in the romance and dynamic but I can never get invested in their plots they always seem and feel like they're in the way whether this is because there's more BL I don't know.

My favorite GL "her shimcheong" is more of a historical drama than a romance as it is slowburn as hell. Also most GLs imo have the same dynamic of introverted edgy butchXextroverted popular femme but sometimes they also use downbad simping lesbianXstraight(???) woman not interested or hates the downbad simping lesbian (but not for long.)

I would like to add something to this thread about power imbalance. The relationship of two male main leads doesn’t bear a gendered difference of status/social recognition/everything that could involve male/female power dynamic. Maybe a woman enjoying a BL is also about enjoying a relationship without all of this as background.
I just thought of something else: since our societies these days are centered around men, maybe it’s not surprising that there are a lot of romance centered around them produced, and that mostly male characters are complex while feminine ones are not.

Coming from the fact that 99% creaters of bl are actually women , so reading is definitely not wrong and not different from straight storyline..

THAT'S MY FAVOURITE GL TOO
it's sooo good

Some other reasons for heterosexual women enjoying BL is for masturbation before you think it's weird or perverse imagine wanting to see a sexualized man you look at straight porn and most of the focus is on the woman and usually the man is average, underdeveloped or ugly but in BL the only one's to sexualize are the men so she does not need to search long for it and if one of them is effeminate she can imagine herself in his place.

Another reason is because it is male centered it is more likely to be well written and have 3 dimensional characters because misogyny in writing.

SIDE NOTE(feel free fo ignore): It feels somewhat ignorant to cast aside female sexuality as perverse and unecessary when previously the only other source women have had for pornography is erotic fiction that is to this day mocked. The most classic erotic novel trope to be criticized is kidnapping. on surface level this is because the desire to be abducted and wanted so much to just be plucked from your home is appealing but it might also be a redirection of guilt women feel at enjoying sexual acts. By removing the responsibility of being the sexual deviant and putting it all on the man then she gets to have all the kinky sex with none of the guilt or remorse of enjoying it and being labelled a "whore". And by being "kidnapped" she is also relieved of the guilt of running away from her oppressive restrictive social environment like a queer kid running away from a religious hometown there's still some fear and anxiety in hurting and disappointing the people who you care about and who care about you with your "selfish" "immoral" desires for flesh which you crave but cannot have for you will be seen as "sinful" for doing so.

Okay I didn’t mean to cause a whole discourse but my problem with this is because being a gay male it just feels weird to be fetishized by women. I understand people find their things to get off too, and that’s cool and all, but it just feels awkward to me. Especially like with living the gay life etc. I understand that mostly women create BL, and I’m glad they do because I like seeing gay representation somewhere, somehow. But it just reminds me of like how women want a gay bsf because they’re gay. That’s all…. Also I wouldn’t necessarily call it perverted because people like what they like, but there’s a lot of perversion in the community of Yaoi.

Yeah honestly I believe the term yaoi itself is a fetishizing term