Guys let's come down ash said "there's a difference between a agreeing to get married and a proposal" so I believe he's going to give Lyle another chance to propose properly! And he apologized for forcing it out of him what more do y'all want from him
there is a difference between agreeing to get married and an actual proposal but that doesn’t excuse how it all went down. Apologizing after the damage is done doesn’t magically erase the emotional discomfort caused. The fact that the MC had to be put in that position in the first place shows a lack of respect for his boundaries. There been countless time the mc doesnt like something but he okay with it bc the ml is okay with it knowing damn well he not. Saying sorry is great, but accountability means more than just words it means not crossing that line to begin with. Wanting a redo is fine, but it doesn’t undo how messed up the first attempt was. Just bc he apologized doesn't mean it doesn't erase whatever he just did. The best thing he could have done was stopped when the mc was obviously uncomfortable and didn't wanna be put in that situation ain't no way yall are actually justifying that shit bc he "apologized"
there is a difference between agreeing to get married and an actual proposal but that doesn’t excuse how it all went down. Apologizing after the damage is done doesn’t magically erase the emotional discomfo... Yuu08
I can't believe there are actually people this dumb. Y’all can root for Ash all you want, but let’s not pretend like what he did was okay just because he said “sorry” after.
there is a difference between agreeing to get married and an actual proposal but that doesn’t excuse how it all went down. Apologizing after the damage is done doesn’t magically erase the emotional discomfo... Yuu08
Yeah obviously I know that but he can't go back and undo what he did don't get me wrong! I am very critical for his indifference to the MC's feelings in this situation the best thing they can do is hold him accountable and make sure he doesn't repeat that same behavior which we won't know yet until more chapters come out so let's relax
I can't believe there are actually people this dumb. Y’all can root for Ash all you want, but let’s not pretend like what he did was okay just because he said “sorry” after. Yuu08
I love both of them so much, but I would liked if Ash just waited a little longer and give Lyle his space to put in order his thoughts. Other point, we can't forget that Lyle could have use the safe word
I love both of them so much, but I would liked if Ash just waited a little longer and give Lyle his space to put in order his thoughts. Other point, we can't forget that Lyle could have use the safe word Katsura
"Lyle could’ve used the safe word" is such a dismissive take. Just because someone technically has an way out doesn’t mean they feel safe or empowered enough to use it especially when they’re overwhelmed, feeling pressured, or caught in an emotionally tense moment with someone they care about. Safe words are there to protect consent during mutual play, not to excuse one partner for blatantly ignoring the other’s discomfort and boundaries.
Using a safe word should never be seen as the only line between "okay" and "not okay." The fact that someone hasn’t used it doesn’t automatically mean they’re okay, it means they might be too overwhelmed to speak up, too scared, or simply don’t feel they can. It was literally fucking seen with lyle crying and asking ash to stop. A healthy partner picks up on subtle cues, reads the emotional landscape, and respects boundaries without needing a sign that says "stop."
Also, this wasn’t Lyle’s type of play to begin with, he had never done anything like this before. That’s not a failure on Lyle’s part; it’s a failure on Ash’s for putting him in that position in the first place. Ash should’ve been more aware and considerate, not pushing him into an uncomfortable situation just because HE was ready.
"Lyle could’ve used the safe word" is such a dismissive take. Just because someone technically has an way out doesn’t mean they feel safe or empowered enough to use it especially when they’re overwhelmed,... Yuu08
Yes, I agree with you, and I like how you detail everything. I mentioned it because by this time is supposed that Lyle has more trust in Ash and communication, but it's true that Ash still forced Lyle into this role play and he saw how Lyle wasn't feeling comfortable during this. Thank you for giving the time to write this. It's really important to mention it
Guys let's come down ash said "there's a difference between a agreeing to get married and a proposal" so I believe he's going to give Lyle another chance to propose properly! And he apologized for forcing it out of him what more do y'all want from him
there is a difference between agreeing to get married and an actual proposal but that doesn’t excuse how it all went down. Apologizing after the damage is done doesn’t magically erase the emotional discomfort caused. The fact that the MC had to be put in that position in the first place shows a lack of respect for his boundaries. There been countless time the mc doesnt like something but he okay with it bc the ml is okay with it knowing damn well he not. Saying sorry is great, but accountability means more than just words it means not crossing that line to begin with. Wanting a redo is fine, but it doesn’t undo how messed up the first attempt was. Just bc he apologized doesn't mean it doesn't erase whatever he just did. The best thing he could have done was stopped when the mc was obviously uncomfortable and didn't wanna be put in that situation ain't no way yall are actually justifying that shit bc he "apologized"
Thank you
I can't believe there are actually people this dumb. Y’all can root for Ash all you want, but let’s not pretend like what he did was okay just because he said “sorry” after.
Yeah obviously I know that but he can't go back and undo what he did don't get me wrong! I am very critical for his indifference to the MC's feelings in this situation the best thing they can do is hold him accountable and make sure he doesn't repeat that same behavior which we won't know yet until more chapters come out so let's relax
I love both of them so much, but I would liked if Ash just waited a little longer and give Lyle his space to put in order his thoughts.
Other point, we can't forget that Lyle could have use the safe word
"Lyle could’ve used the safe word" is such a dismissive take. Just because someone technically has an way out doesn’t mean they feel safe or empowered enough to use it especially when they’re overwhelmed, feeling pressured, or caught in an emotionally tense moment with someone they care about. Safe words are there to protect consent during mutual play, not to excuse one partner for blatantly ignoring the other’s discomfort and boundaries.
Using a safe word should never be seen as the only line between "okay" and "not okay." The fact that someone hasn’t used it doesn’t automatically mean they’re okay, it means they might be too overwhelmed to speak up, too scared, or simply don’t feel they can. It was literally fucking seen with lyle crying and asking ash to stop. A healthy partner picks up on subtle cues, reads the emotional landscape, and respects boundaries without needing a sign that says "stop."
Also, this wasn’t Lyle’s type of play to begin with, he had never done anything like this before. That’s not a failure on Lyle’s part; it’s a failure on Ash’s for putting him in that position in the first place. Ash should’ve been more aware and considerate, not pushing him into an uncomfortable situation just because HE was ready.
Yes, I agree with you, and I like how you detail everything. I mentioned it because by this time is supposed that Lyle has more trust in Ash and communication, but it's true that Ash still forced Lyle into this role play and he saw how Lyle wasn't feeling comfortable during this.
Thank you for giving the time to write this. It's really important to mention it