Everyone's shitting on Leo's personality and making him the problem but i can't take it. J.j. didn't even talk about something so important with leo and just like leo said he bottles things up. and he just broke up with leo out of nowhere (when he was drunk! He didn't want to talk with him in that state but he broke up with him there), yeah sure he had his reasons but it was out of nowhere for leo bc j.j. didn't talk or communicate with him before that.
J.j. wasn't in an abusive relationship like some of you make it seem like. he's just a grown man who chooses not to speak with his partner and solve their problems bc he has unsolved issues himself and obviously was insecure in Their relationship. And I'm not saying leo was an angel either but If you're looking for someone to blame it's not just him. it's both of them bc that's how a relationship works!
most ppl here see themselves in jj (introverted) so they often blame the flirty outgoing leo. I tried to put my own biases aside against extroverts but really everyone around the couple was stating how jj was the one cleaning after Leo and tolerating his behaviour. also what boyfriend would not notice changes in his partner? realistically no matter how much u bottle us your feelings smt will slip up and if your partner is a good one they'll notice. wich leo didn't.
so far alot of pieces are missing for me to judge but I still think leo is to the bigest factor in their split.
also can we talk about how good the story it?? I'm usually never this much invested so props to the author.
I am introverted myself and i don't think you necessarily have to put yourself in their shoes to understand their perspective! Yeah everyone took j.j. side and said what they saw from the surface of their relationship, but where they in that relationship with them? At the end of the day it was something between the two of them or maybe not bc j.j. literally kept leo out of his business. And as i said i don't think leo is an angel either but some people genuinely don't understand until you tell them something and I'm sure j.j. knew what kind of person he's dating with after five years if not from the start but he chose to stay silent. Yeah leo didn't notice something's wrong with j.j.(honestly i wouldn't either bc j.j. looks like a brick) but j.j. didn't show or talk and I understand he had his own issues but you can't blame it all on leo. There's never only one person at blame in a relationship(unless it's abusive which isn't in this Case and I'm more mad that ppl imply it is)The biggest factor in their split actually is not communicating in my opinion!
I agree! And then it seems like all the stuff that JJ is complaining about doing, he began himself. He was the one who enmeshed himself so thoroughly in Leo's life. He's so unassertive about his opinion when it comes to himself, but when it came to Leo's regimen, he put his foot down. It takes two to keep up a routine of codependency, and two to start it. So their situation isnt completely Leo's fault, as people are making it out as.
Shit that was supposed to be a thumbs up. Sorry about that. i agree with you. Seme is also at fault here because he didn't voice out his thought. Basing in their first year as a couple they were ok the uke is even more showy about his love to the seme so what went wrong? So yeah we need to wait more chapters before we make some conclusion..
I think all JJ wanted to hear was what is there for him in their relationship. Because all JJ did, including the training regimen, was for Leo because Leo also wants to win. So what does JJ gain from the relationship? As much as I agree with communication, it’s also one’s responsibility to look out for one another and give respect. I’m not hating Leo per we but it just shows he is immature. JJ nailed it really. He isn’t 19 anymore. Frank, the manager basically said the same thing.
At any point during those 5 years, he could have relegated the tasks to other people. He didn't, nor did he communicate that those tasks—ones he so readily assumed—were bothering him so. He isnt 19 anymore, yes, but he's not a mind reader, and Leo probably assumed (because what else would one do but assume without being told explicitly) that he had no problem doing those things for him because JJ wanted to do them and, at that point, it had been common place. I understand he feels unappreciated, but him feeling it and saying it is two different things. Now, i say all that to say Leo wasnt the best boyfriend (he's innattentive, as we pointed out, and selfish) but that point is one he cant be blamed for alone.
No one is a mind reader. But part of one's maturity is evaluating oneself of what they are doing, whether that is bothering the other person or not. Common courtesy etc. Leo's back ground so far is that he is a rich doted youngest sibling, basically spoiled. He also seems to always get others' favors so he is now thrown off that someone was this negative towards him. It's all part of growing up for him. I don't think he has ever done self reflecting in his life. Disclaimer, not hating.
As for JJ, from what I can tell it's beyond feeling unappreciated but being respected, like - blue balled and brushed it off in ch1, getting hammered and another person bringing him. Common courtesy one would have towards a partner. And yes maybe he did not say anything, or maybe he did because like what he said about packing but Leo never remembered. As much I understand to also give JJ accountability, all the other characters, manager and sisters acknowledged that Leo has not acted properly as boyfriend.
While you seem adamanat Leo is primarily at fault, i dont think that's the case. He's shown that, if informed about his issues, he can improve upon them and that he's more than open to adapt to criticism. Thats how they met. JJ could have said anything at any point to attempt to better their relationship and didnt. They are both at fault, but at this point, lets agree to disagree.
JJ didn't expect he'd need to basically raise Leo, apart from racing. So yeah that part was his fault.
Leo needing to be informed with common courtesy, like trained how to handle people shows he really wasn't mature enough for a committed relationship.
Genuinely, I dont care to hear any more of your opinions regarding the matter—thus, my "agree to disagree".
Right, the 'nice way' to say shut up.
I NEED him to end up with his fated lover! It's not a want it's a NEED!!!
Author need to just kill that mf mc off and make the fated lover the new mc. Only this way i would have hopes for this story!
I'm not writing anything about the main couple because i myself had mixed feelings about them.
But the second couple made me so uncomfortable!
Their first interaction was bad enough and it didn't get any better from there. I was waiting for Noel to finally put his feet down and stand up in front of Joshua or leave him but it never happened. Noel was putting up so much and going easy on him and acted like he had no other choice because love makes you do anything.
Like author thought Noel wasn't as bad as Joshua with staying by his side and his actions shouldn't have any consequences because he's not the bad guy here, but when you think about it he actually Provoked Joshua because Joshua knew Noel would be there for him no matter what he did so he went all out.
obviously it wasn't as romantic and Noel’s character and actions were not as relatable as the author thought.
Joshua didn't deserve any sympathy, forgiveness or even another chance in life and Noel was so low for defending him and staying on his side even though he knew he was wrong.
Honestly That's my main problem with most bls. they forgive anything just to get a happily ever after and some smut and call it character Development but that's just bad writing and letting it go.
I get that sometimes you just want to read something and don't think much of it but when my sense of justice and morals get questioned so much, it does the opposite and leaves me feeling uneasy and unsatisfied!
So even though I don't have a comment on the main couple i feel free to say I didn't like their story.
Overall it felt like "love is an illusion" in another font which i didn't like either!
I wish There were more better Omegaverse and works like these didn't represent it.
I cried and laughed during it!
It was a simple love story but the characters were so relatable and likeable.
their problems were so real and understandable and the author didn't just make up something like miscommunication to fill the chapters like so many other bls!
Speaking of other bls they didn't jump to bed right away and actually developed their relationship through communication and understanding and caring for each other's feelings.
Their relationship was healthy and wholesome.
No one was villainized and it just showed that everyone has their own problems and the fact that their personalities don't match up doesn't mean they should resent each other and they can just move on and focus on themselves.
This is a manhwa with the stupidest storyline I've ever had the misfortune of laying my eyes on!
I looked for novel spoilers and i said "Fuck This Shit I'm Out" and dropped it right then and there. I suggest you do so too if you want to keep your sanity.
Pretty sure a fart have better stories from when it was in the rectum than this shit here!
im crying too — the manhwa does little justice to the novel :””D it rushed it so bad