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im crying too — the manhwa does little justice to the novel :””D it rushed it so bad

most ppl here see themselves in jj (introverted) so they often blame the flirty outgoing leo. I tried to put my own biases aside against extroverts but really everyone around the couple was stating how jj was the one cleaning after Leo and tolerating his behaviour. also what boyfriend would not notice changes in his partner? realistically no matter how much u bottle us your feelings smt will slip up and if your partner is a good one they'll notice. wich leo didn't.
so far alot of pieces are missing for me to judge but I still think leo is to the bigest factor in their split.
also can we talk about how good the story it?? I'm usually never this much invested so props to the author.

I am introverted myself and i don't think you necessarily have to put yourself in their shoes to understand their perspective! Yeah everyone took j.j. side and said what they saw from the surface of their relationship, but where they in that relationship with them? At the end of the day it was something between the two of them or maybe not bc j.j. literally kept leo out of his business. And as i said i don't think leo is an angel either but some people genuinely don't understand until you tell them something and I'm sure j.j. knew what kind of person he's dating with after five years if not from the start but he chose to stay silent. Yeah leo didn't notice something's wrong with j.j.(honestly i wouldn't either bc j.j. looks like a brick) but j.j. didn't show or talk and I understand he had his own issues but you can't blame it all on leo. There's never only one person at blame in a relationship(unless it's abusive which isn't in this Case and I'm more mad that ppl imply it is)The biggest factor in their split actually is not communicating in my opinion!

I agree! And then it seems like all the stuff that JJ is complaining about doing, he began himself. He was the one who enmeshed himself so thoroughly in Leo's life. He's so unassertive about his opinion when it comes to himself, but when it came to Leo's regimen, he put his foot down. It takes two to keep up a routine of codependency, and two to start it. So their situation isnt completely Leo's fault, as people are making it out as.

Shit that was supposed to be a thumbs up. Sorry about that. i agree with you. Seme is also at fault here because he didn't voice out his thought. Basing in their first year as a couple they were ok the uke is even more showy about his love to the seme so what went wrong? So yeah we need to wait more chapters before we make some conclusion..

I think all JJ wanted to hear was what is there for him in their relationship. Because all JJ did, including the training regimen, was for Leo because Leo also wants to win. So what does JJ gain from the relationship? As much as I agree with communication, it’s also one’s responsibility to look out for one another and give respect. I’m not hating Leo per we but it just shows he is immature. JJ nailed it really. He isn’t 19 anymore. Frank, the manager basically said the same thing.

At any point during those 5 years, he could have relegated the tasks to other people. He didn't, nor did he communicate that those tasks—ones he so readily assumed—were bothering him so. He isnt 19 anymore, yes, but he's not a mind reader, and Leo probably assumed (because what else would one do but assume without being told explicitly) that he had no problem doing those things for him because JJ wanted to do them and, at that point, it had been common place. I understand he feels unappreciated, but him feeling it and saying it is two different things. Now, i say all that to say Leo wasnt the best boyfriend (he's innattentive, as we pointed out, and selfish) but that point is one he cant be blamed for alone.

No one is a mind reader. But part of one's maturity is evaluating oneself of what they are doing, whether that is bothering the other person or not. Common courtesy etc. Leo's back ground so far is that he is a rich doted youngest sibling, basically spoiled. He also seems to always get others' favors so he is now thrown off that someone was this negative towards him. It's all part of growing up for him. I don't think he has ever done self reflecting in his life. Disclaimer, not hating.

As for JJ, from what I can tell it's beyond feeling unappreciated but being respected, like - blue balled and brushed it off in ch1, getting hammered and another person bringing him. Common courtesy one would have towards a partner. And yes maybe he did not say anything, or maybe he did because like what he said about packing but Leo never remembered. As much I understand to also give JJ accountability, all the other characters, manager and sisters acknowledged that Leo has not acted properly as boyfriend.

While you seem adamanat Leo is primarily at fault, i dont think that's the case. He's shown that, if informed about his issues, he can improve upon them and that he's more than open to adapt to criticism. Thats how they met. JJ could have said anything at any point to attempt to better their relationship and didnt. They are both at fault, but at this point, lets agree to disagree.

JJ didn't expect he'd need to basically raise Leo, apart from racing. So yeah that part was his fault.
Leo needing to be informed with common courtesy, like trained how to handle people shows he really wasn't mature enough for a committed relationship.

Genuinely, I dont care to hear any more of your opinions regarding the matter—thus, my "agree to disagree".

Right, the 'nice way' to say shut up.