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Whhhaaatt? Aw I wanted curly dude uke
Oh well lmao still gonna be cute

I think why armin is inlove with annie is because he ate bertolt and bertolt is inlove with annie and that the memories of bertolt being in love with annie passed on to armin so that's why i think the memories of bertolt influenced armins feeling towards annie (i hate annie btw :) )

yeah i was just ranting hahahha! I said it above that he “ate his rival” aka bertolt.
cheers! I dislike the schnoz too. that scene where her titan form was crying was nice. she was always calculating and poker faced while killing people. levi’s squad can now RIP

Honestly I felt the same way you’re feeling when I first read it as well. The whole alliance with the Warriors, Annie and Armin, I also thought it was strange how forgiving they were after all that happened, just like you said. But if you think about it, for the rest of them it was never about revenge or hatred. They fought Titans to protect themselves and to survive, while Eren was fueled by revenge and hatred towards humanity outside the walls. The rest of them just don’t agree with mass murdering innocent people, even tho it was the “humanity that wanted them extinct”. Like in the table scene when gabi asks armin if he would like to kill her and he firmly says no. Their values are just entirely different from that of Eren’s. They’re not interested in an endless cycle of revenge. Like niccolo said, who cares who killed who first.

Also no, I don’t think armin is in love with Annie because he ate Bertholdt and got his memories. Eren only said that to hurt/confuse him. he probably just likes her as a person (from the time they were scouts) and understands that everything that happened was inevitable.

no, i think youre still having difficulty understanding eren’s reasoning. I would not say eren is “fueled with hate”. that’s no longer the issue at season 4. Please go back to the scene where tybur announced their war against paradis, just like reiner, he has no choice and feel resentful for leading the genocide. he told reiner that he should “forget” his resentment and hatred 3-4 yrs ago, and eren even apologized that just like him, reiner will just on “moving forward”.

niccolo on the other hand, was just as full of hate and wanted gabi dead. idk why stopping the rumbing would do anything, if it’s stopped i guess paradis will be fucked because the rest of the world now knew what eldians are capable of.

what i do not understand is armin’s love for annie. who by the way killed almost 1/4 or paradisians within the outer walls. his “fuck this” attitude is what makes me irk.

why would you understand that killing people in the most sadistic way, stomping and spinning a corpse “an invetible”, annie swore that she will do it again if that means going back to her abusive father.

i would understand the warriors, even gabi because they a concrete reasoning that eldians are devils, armin’s thought process is wack. love is blind i guess, hence my rant

I always think of this way, it’s between genocide of your people or genocide of my people. I will do anything for survival. hatred or not, eren’s people are on the verge of obliteration be it nuke or bullets because titans will be obsolete. titans curse arent forever. genocide is wrong but it’s the only option. that is why eren told reiner he has no choice, feels no hatred but remorse, cause he knew there are good people outside the walls. no matter how many people die, genocide is STILL genocide. when talking about Utilitarianism and the lives of people is so controversial.

i guess this will be lelouch the 2nd. i hope not. im rooting for time loop ending

First of all, I was referring to seasons 1-3 Eren being fueled by revenge and hate compared to the others who were just trying to survive. No one will fully understand season 4 eren’s motives till the last chapter comes out. I know very well Eren doesn’t want to kill people either. What I was getting at was that Eren values freedom far more than the rest of them.

And honestly I think you’re having difficulty understanding the whole point/message of AOT. It’s not entirely black or white, right or wrong, hence why some characters are able to sympathize while others (Yeagerists) cannot. Niccolo literally said moments later that he can’t believe he tried to hurt a child.

also I understand why you hate Annie and don’t get why Armin likes her, I don’t either. But she was a warrior candidate just like gabi, Reiner, and the rest of them. They all had the same reasoning for why they did what they did so I don’t get why u exclude her.

Yeah but what id like to know is what were eren’s options that made him resort to genocide of not just one race but EVERY race as being the only choice. And also same, time loop sounds good to me and I’m also hoping for the theory that ymir fritz somehow reverses the curse of the Titans so that Jean and Connie turn back somehow. Their transformation just made me the most depressed since they came so far. But I highly doubt it.

And honestly, lelouch the 2nd does seem like where it’s heading and I guess I don’t mind it much.

im sorry, what’s the point of pointing out his hatred and revenge when youre going to back track, saying it happened during seasons 1-3, when were talking about the whole reason for the rumbling. saying that he’s doing this for his revenge and not for the survival makes erens efforts down to nothing. his driving force were responsibility and of course freedom.

no hate and, i dont mean to be rude or aggressive so i apologize if i came too strong,i just need to point out that out, it’s no longer consistent with the argument at hand

other thing, i like the time loop to happen, this way a lot of characters will be revived, ymir can do that.

i was talking about the whole “traitors/alliance” reasoning. I never said that they’re bad for doing this all i was saying is why the hypocrisy? I understand it’s always morally grey.

somehow its ok for the marleyans to destroy an island but when eren’s doing it, it’s bad and goes against their “conscience”? (for hange and the rest). jean has also pointed that out, what about their people? he’s altruistic and also realistic.
but hange was “ok” with the amount of deaths it took just for annie’s capturing. her values don’t align.. and i feel that yam’s supposed to make his viewers understand that genocide is wrong. that timeskip served hange and others wrong imo and he killed her too.

and annie will always be a sociopath who never had guilt vs reiner who’s suicidal and depressed and is a punching bag, who has full of regrets, that’s why i believe reiner is a tragic character who carries his sins, is brainwashed but regretful. unlike schnoz who from the 1st day of breach was aware of marleyans using them but has zero regrets.

and i get it, no ones getting what they truly deserved, like fritz dying in peace in his last years. i abhor the unfairness, and yep, because that’s also how reality works. but the fairytale the pawah of friendship avengers is unbelievable, at least for me.

there’s no options left, as long as the founder is not in the hands of the marleyans. nothing will stop them.

50 yr plan wont work, it’s a gamble that would end paradis as ashes, because of kiyomi’s greed. plus, will paradis really catch up with the technology and defend itself against billions? historia’s going to be breeding machine? and titans holders will be dead by then?. plus zeke’s castrating nihilistic plan wont work, that’s like him being self righteous ala king fritz, that’s no diff being nuked by the marleyans, they will be literally a dying race.

so im looking forward to time loop or evangelion. damn lol, and imma take the copium.

I simply pointed out eren’s motives in seasons 1-3 to downplay the rest of their motives, since that’s what we were talking about. We were talking about why they were so willing to form an alliance with the others after all that’s happened weren’t we? It’s because the others are not filled with as much hatred towards them from the beginning, and I brought up Eren as a comparison (from seasons 1-3) that’s all. They think eren’s going too far and realized that an alliance is necessary if both of their main goals is to stop Eren from mass killing. I mean yea, I understand why you would think it’s ridiculous, but I think if you were in this show you’d def be a yeagerist haha (not a bad thing)

And yeah I completely agree about what you said about Annie, I honestly just think that the author failed to develop her guilt more or didn’t think it was necessary to dedicate a part of a chapter just for her, as opposed to Reiner who is way more of a main character. She showed guilt when killing Marco and when she spared Armin but that’s all we ever saw tbh clearly not enough.