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dude… she was what… 15 at the start of the story… maybe 16 at best… that’s a child… she WAS slow too even for her age but in the end she was influenced and used because of her naivety by the grownups in the story. and her peers blackmailed her. how any of this is her fault if ultimately she was an oblivious kid that never had friends and couldn’t know better because of the lack of experience with people?

learn some kindness.

Do you even know what the age of consent is in Japan? Its 16.!!! She's a middle school graduate that means she's over 16. So all the sexual intercourse were consensual. Plus a child is a person aged 10-13. From age 14- 17 people are called young person. But the age of marriage is 18. .. in which way is she still a 'child'?? She's a minor yes but not a child. And not even a child is as dumb as her.. she's not slow, she's delusional and wants validation through attention. She's greedy for money too because she kept on sleeping with old men to earn money for her expensive stuffs.. stop trying to justify someone's dumbness.. i am speaking logic.. nobody blackmailed her in the beginning of the story.. she wanted to change her outlook to get attention and she did anything to earn that... Influence alone cannot make you stoop that low .. "lEaRn SoMe KiNdNeSs" , try to use your brain for once and think maybe instead of getting emo over random stuff..

lmao. you sound like you are just looking for an excuse for all this inappropriate behaviour towards minors. what’s all that reasoning about the age of consent? you really think this is okay? someone call the police lol.
saki is dumb and naive, yes, but it doesn’t mean that she is at fault for being exploited just because she’s “over 16” - which i doubt by the way, i even looked it up just in case my math was indeed wrong, and yeah, they graduate middle school at 15 typically, as i’ve mentioned before. they turn 16 in the first year of high school, so according to your comment it was most likely not consensual when it all started in april ╮(￣▽￣)╭ and by your logic, it would be okay if that happened to a 12 year old in a country where the age of consent is 12. do you hear how stupid of an argument “the age of consent” is in this case?
age of consent does not equal to being mentally mature enough for the intercourse for the starters, and in this case it clearly shows. you yourself said that she is stupid. more stupid than a child. she was obviously not mentally mature for all that. and by definition, the age of consent is the age at which one can legally consent to intercourses. not the one at which one is at fault if abused. and it doesn’t really matter. people don’t reach full mental maturity till approximately 25. till then every mild experience shapes the mind (so yeah surprise surprise environment makes it quite possible for an influenced developing person to stoop low enough if conditioned for prolonged times extensively like with drugs which coincidentally mess up the brain chemistry(⌒▽⌒)). and in teens it’s even more the same, especially with puberty messing up with the hormones, mood, irritability and other stuff. she was a young person, sure, but obviously not a developed or even experienced enough to be at fault for being used by adults. that’s pretty much grooming of a lonely naive young person who doesn’t know how healthy intrapersonal relationships work.
next, “nobody blackmailed her in the beginning of the story”. oho, yes, that happened later on, but in the begging though that first dude sugarcoated her into having sex with him convincing her it was okay because he loved her which was obviously just a lie? and that was after he fed her some drug that got her high? that counts as rape under substances. her fault for accepting that pill at all, sure, but you can’t be serious if you say that’s ultimately her fault in this case. she was then further conditioned into thinking all that was okay because of her lack of substantial experience with dating and people overall and was pretty much groomed into addiction (high sex is the term they used in the manga) and even selling herself for drugs/money by the perpetrator. and she was raped again by that old guy then? and blackmailed because of that then? like what are you even on… obviously all that shit would grow into some sort of miserable stuff…

Are seriously okay? You seem quite immature to me.. writing a whole arse paragraph that makes zero sense based on my personal opinion? Lol. Your argument about age thingy literally sounds like you are yapping and has no logic in it. Now I have to write a long paragraph for you to answer your fragile female centric thought process...
You are trying to portray her as a naive kid who doesn't know 2 things about the world.. and then you are saying she has mental issues? What even!? even a kid knows what is a good touch and bad touch, what is appropriate and what not.. why are you trying to portray her as someone who doesn't know that!? In which chapter does it say that she has mental issues? Immaturity doesn't simply mean you can't differentiate wrong from right .. now come to the age thingy, i don't think you were focusing on the story while reading the manga , she's a high schooler from the first damn chapter.. so she was already 16 . and the story went on for a long period of time.. she dropped out , and then started prostitution for awhile for her bf, then got pregnant and aborted the baby, then got pregnant again after awhile. She was on full term pregnancy the 2nd time so at least 7 months have passed. you think all these happened in one day? Are you dumb like her? She was at least 18 by the end of the story, okay let's say she was 16 but that doesn't change the fact that she brought the misfortune onto herself?..she wanted to CHANGE, get it? Change herself and for that she explored different options. She's not naive but delusional and dumb .. there's a fine line between these words, and i don't think you get that.. even if she was naive or dumb that still doesn't excuse the fact that she was sleeping around selling herself for money to weird old men. but you are trying to make an issue twisting my words.. you are making it sound like i said its okay what the dudes in this story did with her or something ... But what I meant was its partially her fault for how she ruined her life.. she got multiple opportunities to come out of it.. but she didn't.. this is not about age or consent.. i only brought it up cuz you are trying to establish that all the consensual sex were rape..
Then come to the part where she kissed a guy who she met for the first time in her life? Would you do that? Kiss a random guy who's nice to you at your first meeting? The story clearly shows that when some dudes were blackmailing her for selling herself to old dudes she refused sex.. that alone proves that she has the conscious and she knows what's wrong and right.. selling herself to old dudes was fully on her and in more than once she says she enjoyed it.. she wasn't even drug induced so how are you planning to defend that?.. choose your words carefully cuz you said "conditioned into thinking" but who was manipulating her when she wanted to change herself and buy extremely expensive stuffs by selling herself? Then who told her to have sex and take drugs while she was pregnant? Selling sex is not the only job in Japan, grow up, there were so many options to choose from.. she's a middle school graduate ffs.. she was dumb and the men in the story took advantage of that.. just because i said its partly her fault doesn't mean that the men were saints either.. of course these men are rotten to the core but this girl just fed their ego and rottenness even more by letting them do whatever they want..

Then again I have no obligation to explain anything to you because this is my personal opinion.. its not my problem that you can't respect other people's opinions and make it your business to write paragraphs for fun..

bro has NOT read my argument (⌒▽⌒) if you were too lazy to read all that, you could’ve just ignored it. your reply is full of stuff you pulled out of thin air.
you called me emo for not elaborating and now you act like elaborating is a bad thing. pick a struggle.
you are allowed to have an opinion, but i am also allowed to have mine. if you are so upset with people expressing theirs in return for yours, maybe don’t put up your opinion on the internet idk. i don’t think it’s worth continuing this since you are both getting personal and not paying attention to anything i say. i hope you grow out of this phase of yours and get better soon. lots of love.
ah, p.s. “ Now I have to write a long paragraph for you to answer your fragile female centric thought process “ - you can always decide not to engage with people. or are you perhaps “dumb and delusional” to think i want to read your sloppy replies? kek. i’m just expressing my opinion and it’s not my problem you don’t respect that (=・ω・=)

You literally wrote down your so called "opinion" under my comment, what do you mean by i am upset with people expressing their opinion? Go write your opinion on somewhere else, why are you writing it under mine? i read your paragraph and its nonsense.. shows how stupid you are...you are also very much inclined on getting validation from others so you feel empathy for the character, but I don't.. you need to stop getting so butthurt over what other people say on the Internet.. you basically ignored whatever i said and copypasted my reply and didn't even bother to answer any of the things i questioned on this issue.. because you don't have any answer, you were just blabbing... Get some help or something cuz girls like you who can't think at their age turns out like the saki-chan in this story and then goes on to blame the entire world for their misfortune..

Idk honestly, some kink?

I understand it's confusing, but it's more than black and white in this story. They didn't love each other in a romantic way, it was more of a guilt induced situation.
Seiji felt guilty because due to his mistake he made Aiji his mate, but breaking the bond will imply hurting his brother and leave him. He didn't want that and the only solution he ame up with was taking responsibility taking his role as mate/partner/Alpha. Remember they were young, without anyone or support, and

I understand it's confusing, but it's more than black and white in this story. They didn't love each other in a romantic way, it was more of a guilt/responsibility induced situation.
Seiji felt guilty because due to his mistake he bit and made Aiji his mate, but breaking the bond would imply hurting his brother and leave him. He didn't want that and the only solution he, a kid who was only seen send pointed for his second gender, came up with was taking responsibility taking his role as mate/partner/Alpha. Remember they were too young, without anyone or support, or someone who taught them well. Aiji knew it was wrong, but didn't want to be left alone so he clung onto him, that's why he said "dragged you down for 10 years"

At the end, they're still brothers, so is obvious they love each other but it was made clear it was not as a lover but as his brother and you can confirm that at the final pages when Aiji asks Seiji why doesn't he bites Towa already.

Mhmm mhmm this story was fucked up but it was good. Made me sad...

gurl he literally have mental health issues, stop blaming the poor boy

There's a fine line between mental health issue and stupidity.. stop supporting his stupidity... Just because he has mental health issue doesn't mean he has the right to ruin other people's lives... He clearly had a way out of this mess but no he invited in more trouble... He made his own life pathetic and wants everyone to feel bad for him