Relakuma's Topics (128)

Who raped who

thats exactly how i felt he needs to get the shit beaten out of him by the seme. fuck him

My question exactly...I'm confused as hell. (⊙…⊙ )

From what I could gather from the raws, I think they meant the black haired seme

okay but it's not rape the UKE wanted it for a long time he imagines him sticking his dick in his ass and fingers him self every time but I think when they had sex in chapter 2 the uke was scared sooooo I don't think it's rape u just misunderstood or didn't read the chapter good....ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~

Ah! That explains it then. *flipped through chapter 2 and 3*
People might indeed have misunderstood and been too quick to yell rape again. I think he was just heavily overwhelmed when they had sex (plus scared as hell because of the TV thing with his dad...).
Well, gotta wait impatiently for the translation. ლ(´ڡ`ლ)

No I think that they mean that guy from the raws who took him his home and throw him under the shower and few pages later uke was in hospital. I think thry mean that guy

I think it's the guy with the toys.. Who become the uke for the long hair guy.. Not sure tho ╮(￣▽￣)╭

I assumed it could've been someone retaliating to our poor uke for his dad's actions? Of course, that never should have happened, he's innocent in all of that, not to mention that raping somebody is one of the worst and most horrible things you could do to a person and is not the solution for everything, but the scene came so randomly out of nowhere that I feel it's related to it. And the reason the uke seems to be rejecting the seme after their sex scene is because he said he would only once act on his feelings and then relinquish them for his father, so he's determined to bury his emotions and his sexuality from then on.

yep.The seme is a rapist.I hate him.

Don`t judge the raws so quickly.Let`s just wait to see what really happens in the story.

Oh, I see.. But I think the owner of the post was talking about the other guy, not the seme with black hair. But not sure, cause I didn't understand a thing they said :x
And yeah I agree with you raping is the worst thing you can do to someone (even if the uke loves the seme, that doesn't gives him, the seme, the right to rape the poor boy) (╬￣皿￣)凸
Thinking now, our uke was raped twice?? (⊙…⊙ )

Is the scene real?

In chapter he is talking and we are shown how he has sexual hallucinations all the time.

I even had to re-read that orgy scene and what followed a few times because of how unreal it seems.

I wasn't referring to the seme in my reply, sorry for the confusion! I called the other guy a rapist, because he clearly is an abuser and I didn't refer to the seme as a rapist because I think (from the raws and with context in chapter one) that their scene was consensual. But we will see.

Hahah it's ok ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
And I think he was raped because the seme had sex with his girl when he was in "heat" and that was a form of revenge, but again not sure because I didn't understand a thing. However if that really was the reason, I'll be soooo mad!!!
And I'm not really sure if it was consensual, it didn't look like that :(
But as you said, we will see :3

Well, I think it is, unfortunately.. since he didn't like that guy and he probably wouldn't hallucinate about himself being raped.. and he went to hospital after that :(

He didn't give his consent to being fucked at that moment, so that makes it rape.

Yea, him.

Yea, I meant that guy.

I know right!? I'm so confuzzled because of that sudden turn, this is a first for me. <XD

I agree

This is probably one of the best theory for a manga that I have ever come across ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~

Lol.. thats what i thought

Well, he says he LOVED him so he doesn't really confess :/

That would have been nicer

it's true that killing humans is kinda sad, but humans aren't peaceful anyway. there's no such thing as a world where humans don't kill each other. and besides, that's our food. they're gonna die anyway, does it really matter how you treat them? well, they might taste better but...

its more than kinda sad..... its wrong. but i think i get what you mean, i do want all the people who exploit others to die, they really have no purpose in this world other than to cause pain and suffering. But for people who are trying to change and aren't hurting others, i don't think they should be killed, they will contribute to the development and progression of human kind. actually the progression of human kind is also scary *-*'

and that is the wrong mindset, they aren't our food, they're their own being.....

just imagine cannibals farming other people, do you think its fine that everyone is kept in dog cages, living in their own feces and urine before they are slaughtered to be eaten? because that's the exact same, the cannibals force their desire and want for human meat, just like how others do that to cows, pigs, dogs, cats, rabbits etc. its the exact same, there is no different between a cannibals mindset and those who eat animals. you don't need their flesh to survive, you eat them out of want and desire. In both cases, its very wrong.

There is no justification.

the justification is that we are omnivores. we eat both meat and plants. even if they weren't kept in cages, we would just hunt them down to eat. they still die painfully and they suffer a lot, but keeping them in cages just makes it easier for us. they're gonna die anyway, so it doesn't matter. not everyone enjoys veganism. and for the cannibal part. that's only taboo because society says it is. (i'm not saying that i am a cannibal or condone the action. e_o) i'm just saying that if laws and government didn't exist, you would be either alive, dead, or dead and food for somebody else.

we are more of a herbivorous species, most animal product are not good for our health. and thats not a justification, just because we can, doesn't mean we should. in fact, there is no need to eat animals. you won't die if you don't eat them.

There are studies showing that the consumption of animal products encourage and cause certain cancers and diseases in humans, and when those people were put on a predominantly plant based diet, the disease was either prevented from getting worse, slowed, reversed or cured....

not everyone enjoys veganism.... i think its the negative stigma and what the media shows to people, that give them the wrong idea about veganism. i don't see how its bad.
But just because they don't enjoy it, they shouldn't do whats right? well animals and people don't enjoy being killed.....

and why wouldn't people enjoy veganism, there are fake meats for those who are against animals cruelty but feel a desire for the familiar taste, like the vegan burger that "bleeds." there are also several desserts like cakes that you can still enjoy. Most things have already been veganised. you can still enjoy life without supporting animal cruelty or contributing much to global warming.

its a positive movement. :)

and i don't think anyone can be completely vegan anyways. but i'm just glad you knew the term though :O

you think all meat is the same meat. halal meat is 100x different from normal mass produced meat. halal meat is much safer to eat. in fact, i've never eaten any meat other than halal meat and have stayed extremely healthy to this day. it's the way people have processed the meats that they end up with so many dang diseases. and i've never eaten pork either, along with store brought meats. my parents have always bought meat freshly cut, and were always extremely careful when cooking, as do every other muslim family. meat is an essential part of my diet and i personally can't live without eating meat. it's simply a must for me and many other meat eaters. and going vegan also means no eggs or dairy, which is complete no for me. i need my ice cream and my milk and my cheese. you cannot take that away from me. >:[

its all animal products period, because most things containing animal products contain saturated fat, colestoral and certain enzymes not particularily safe for humans (i think in large amounts).

i'm not a 100% sure about this, however there are halal certified products that are falsely labeled so. I don't want to get into the cultural aspect of halal foods because i don't want it to seem like i am attacking your religion/lifestyle. but in an ethical view point, and the types of halal practices i have seen, halal animal flesh is unnecessarily painful. The animals suffer and usually die slowly, when they are drained of their blood, that is extremely saddening.

And according to the american government and FDA, they do not even have a healthy recommendation for animal flesh, they can't even legally label eggs as a healthy product. i am happy to post the links that state this if you want to see. :)

i understand that people are misinformed about the vegan lifestyle, as was i before i willingly wanted to learn more. but you aren't missing out on ice cream haha We have heaps of ice cream varieties too :D And to my surprise, there is a vegan "egg" too. of course its not the same, but it similar properties to an egg.

so nothing is being taken away from you, but the opposite is true. you are 100% taking the life of animals just so you can enjoy a meal that probably doesn't last longer than 30 minutes.

but even with what i have said, i'm kind of getting the vibe that you do not really care much for animals. i have a muslim friend (i'm not trying to generalize muslims) and she really doesn't care about animals. she doesn't hate them, and doesn't like them. she explained to me that she sees them as a lesser being, where humans are more superior to them. i'm wondering if you share her belief? i think its a taught belief.

if so, then i guess there is no use for me to explain things to you, unless you are willing to learn. i tried to explain things to her, and she just didn't want to hear it, so i just let it go. its hard getting people to care.

well of course we are higher beings. what makes one's life matter is not the life itself but the intelligence it contains. also, there is the food chain. the weak must bow down to the strong. that's just the way life is. (you're not gonna start to try turning wolves and bears into vegans are you? like some retards already do that to their poor dogs and they get malnutrition.) well, as i was saying, if a chicken or cow knew how to do calculus or had to potential to, there's no way humans would be killing them. we kill them because their only use to us is food. and they're pretty damn tasty too. humans only use each other. the majority of the world does not see animals as equals because that is the way all creatures have developed. and while it is sad that they are only used as food, it is not really all that big of a deal. their deaths do not impact us in any way, and nor does their life do. all they can do is walk, eat, sleep and reproduce. those are their main functions. humans on the other can do many many things that can benefit all creatures in all sorts of ways. we have the capacity to think, create, discover, and innovate at the same time. that is why we became the most intelligent species on this Earth. survival of the fittest, miss.

um no, higher beings aren't ones who force things onto others. what if..lets see, the government saw everyone who didn't have a high position in society as a lesser being, and decided that they do not care about those peoples health and well being. Or similar to now, where the government saw specific minorities as a lesser being, and so no shit it given to those people. do you think that is ok? but then again, because they saw themselves as superior, your opinion or right wouldn't matter at all. meaning they control your life, since they have the power to, they just do it. do you really think that mentality and logic is ok? because that is the logic you stated.

and you are misinformed, humans have absolutely no use for this planet to thrive. we are only useful to ourselves. in fact animals are so important, that if bees were to go extinct (they are on the verge, they are endangered now) the whole ecosystem will collapse. the same with ants, and most of all the other animals on this planet.
see, human progression and development is only beneficial to ourselves. Humans are causing ocean dead zones, global warming, deforestation, and we are leaching this planet of its resources. Water is almost the same value as oil now, it is that precious. so actually without humans existing on this planet, everything will just fix itself, slowly and in time of course, because we wouldn't be here to destroy it.

The truth is, Humans are that destructive, we do not benefit anyone else except ourselves. Those animals do not need us, we need them, how does that make you superior to them when we are reliant on them to create this Earth? if we are so superior, why are we allowing others to starve? if we are so smart, why are we killing our only home (Earth)?

can i ask you how old you are? because i feel like its not gonna work talking to you about this.....you've already been conditioned to follow things and not question.