so is Dojin trying to get Hyesung to wanna be a family? I'm confused I know Dojin loves Hyesung so he's trying to get Hyesung to love him and the baby so they can all be happily ever after?
I know a lot of people are gonna find this weird but a lot of guys feel more sensations in their ass so it's really likely you'll date someone one day who'll maybe be kinda interested in you topping them but sometimes they don't ever tell you or they're too homophobic to even think it's a possibility anyways it happens a lot so just putting that out there it's completely normal and no it does not mean they're gay but some might be so just keep all of that in mind.
Yeah, you're right. Tread safe friend, i was saying exactly this earlier and some guy was trying to twist my words and say i was saying "it's homophobic for a straight man to not be okay with anal play", hopefully they'll leave you out of it. You might get a reply from an Anon though... ╮(￣▽￣)╭
I have dated a lot of men, none of them have been interested in anal sex. Same with my girlfriends. It has nothing to do with homophobia and this comment keeps popping up?
I'll say a few things on their behalf and then i'm out of this:
1. @Donna: It is a fact, they didn't say "ALL straight men like it" or "it's common", they said "a lot of straight men feel sensations in their ass and like it", the male G spot is factually in the ass and there are "a lot" of straight men who take advantage of this. Do a simple google search and educate yourself. I'm not going to argue with you further.
2. @The anon: your personal experience doesn't matter when we're talking worldwide. That's like arguing that the McDonald's food chain doesn't exist because there isn't one in your town. They can post about whatever they want, are you comment policing now?
@Rhi: Good luck! These two are a handful and i think that anon is the one i mentioned. Tip: if you want to be petty you can click on the title of your comment, scroll down and delete any replies posted by any anonymous users, not actual account holders though.
@Donna: I hate to fall for the bait, but 1 more wont kill me: "give it a rest"-said after posting 3 replies. Not sure where you did "research", but factually if the prostate is stimulated correctly it WILL feel good and the prostate IS the male G spot. "research shows that most never do anal", thats besides the point Donna, stay on topic, i JUST clarified that. You're arguing something that no one is saying. -okay, i'm really done now. If you continue to go off on a tangent, that's on you, no one is arguing that Donna-
lol, this topic still ongoing? I know I'm not the one you are replying too, but thought I should just fill you in what happened seeing as it seems to be being misrepresented. Some anon kept spamming the comment section essentially saying that straight men can't be straight, if they want anal sex, and that gay men are dirty for having anal sex. This why the term homophobic was used to describe that anon on that occasion. Then said anon turned the conversation around and said how those criticising them are the homophobes (logic?) and then all these new posters started to come in and have this long conversation about anal sex (which still seems to be ongoing, wow). I guess the anon achieved their point of trolling.
Donna, now Clouds is just lying. I knew I would be mentioned again. I made a comment that anal sex can get dirty (which it can if you don’t clean out your insides) and how many don’t ever even get into it. That’s it. I got called a homophobe for no reason. I also never said anal is only for gay men. I know more women who are into having sex through their ass.
Tmi but my sisters boyfriend let's her fuck him all the time so I know for a fact it happens maybe not all the time but it does happen and I was just shedding light on that.
you misread my words I never said men who don't do anal are homophobic lol I said some may be homophobic I am not referring to all.
Thank you so much lol, I think you're the only one who really understood what I was trying to say.
There's a lot of weird ass people on this earth. Women fucking men. Mother fucking son. Father fucking daughter. People fucking animals. Shit happens but we don't know because they keep that shit private. But they are a miniscule compare to the world. Keep that in mind.
I understand but it was just more the way the ukes (we'll call him that in this Scenario cause he basically is) girlfriend reacted to him shoving a dildo up his ass and it was just me more trying to shed light to the fact that if that happens in real life not to freak out in a sense I guess because it can be common and if it ever happens it doesn't mean their gay or maybe they might be just don't act the way the ukes girlfriend did instead try to sit down and talk it out with them I guess is what I was more trying to say but most people will hear/read what they want to.
What has any of this got to do with people having consensual anal sex? All the things you have listed are crimes, and you wonder why people called you homophobic...
I didn’t make that comment but nice try Clouds, you are for sure a troll.
not really almost everybody has a fetish/kink that others may find weird and sometimes that'll be anal and other times it'll be something else I was just shedding light to the fact that these things are normal and not to act the way the ukes girlfriend did.
unless it's like illegal.
in my opinion if she truly cared about her boyfriend she'd try to understand she may not do anything like that with him and in the end they may break up yes but if you act as if someones fetish/kink is disgusting it'll make them feel insecure or like it's wrong somehow just be careful with others feelings that's all.
Under your comment titled "he wants a penis, PENIS" i replied with "he wants a dildo, a dildo. Straight guys do this, welcome to reality" and you responded with "he wants a penis up his ass, straight men don't want a penis up their ass". This is how this all started. As Clouds said, you were called a homophobe for saying this, you're literally saying anal play makes men gay since "straight men don't want a 'penis' (it was a dildo and he didn't imagine Sangtae) up their ass"... You're this one anon here reposting "he wants a penis" multiple times and commenting all over the place pretending to be multiple anons.
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You're right, there is nothing wrong with her sexual preference against anal play, but for her to judge him like that and break up with him on the spot was a bit harsh. Talk and break up.
Where did they imply "common", they just said "a lot", which is true. Do you know how many straight males there are? Now, if even a fraction of them like anal play it's going to be "a lot".
You're missing the entire point Donna, what does anything you just said have to do with her not talking to him calmly and breaking up with him. I'm not sure how many other angles you're going to try and take this from, but it's getting old, it's just strawman after strawman. What everyone is saying is that the WAY she handled the situation isn't okay, she made it seem like she was disgusted by his kink and dumped him. I'm not going over the sexual preference thing again, i'm starting to feel like i'm screaming into the void talking to you. Everyone agrees, she can have a preference, not an excuse to be like she was while dumping him.
But he didn't imagine Sangtae, not my opinion, fact... On page 1 he starts to finger his ass, no Sangtae here and on page 2 he has the thought "this feels like deja vu", he realizes the deja vu is Sangtae, gets embarrassed and then LITERALLY swats the memory cloud away. He wasn't "imagining" Sangtae, he was masturbating anally, thought it felt familiar, realized it was because of Sangtae and the fantasies, got embarrassed and then went back to masturbating anally without thinking of anyone. Point out where you see Sangtae anywhere while he's masturbating other than on pg 2 where he ONLY thinks about him for a second to place the deja vu.
If you have any reading comprehension, you can see that it's not that he's "anally masturbating while imagining Sangtae", he is just fingering his ass and wonders why the touch feels familiar, he realizes it's because Sangtae had fingered him before (hence the quick image of Sangtae) and gets embarrassed before he stops thinking about Sangtae and goes back to masturbating. I'd like to point out that he uses both hands to swat away the memory, meaning he stopped masturbating while he placed the deja vu. Look back.
Look at pages 1 and 2, he stops masturbating when Sangtae pops into his head, he uses both hands to swat the memory away.
Lol, i'll take that as that you have no argument.
Cite pages dear, you can't just state things like they're fact. If you don't cite pages you're admitting it's just your opinion.
Was that all? Had any other baseless claims? I'm ready to move on now but you just keep spam posting the same things.
I'll consider you destroyed, bye. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Again, destroyed. Quit responding, you wont get anything else out of me.
...That was so childish, i mean that literally, that is something only children say and i've heard it from children before. Anyways, you're making it seem like it's obvious that he's thinking about Sangtae while masturbating, but i literally just proved that isn't the case and you can't provide anything to prove what you say. It's really not "obvious" at all, you just want to believe it is to the point that you'll ignore the story instead of admitting you're wrong. I'm really just beating the dead horse at this point...
there are about 7.6 billion people on earth about 50.4% are male so I'm just gonna average it and go 50/50 and say 25 people is nowhere close to the male population of the Earth.
THANK YOU!
No problem, it quickly became clear that they weren't interested in conversation, they just wanted to argue so i shut them down. Fortunately, any time I say something i can back it with evidence.
The girlfriend wasn't aware that he was thinking about Sangtae, all that happened was she walked into her house and saw him masturbating with the toy. Rather than be a bit more understanding, and maybe even offer to help him out, she just dumped him on the spot. Maybe she thinks wanting anal sex means a person has a specific sexual orientation, maybe she just was looking for any excuse to get out of their relationship because he was becoming more stressed and she was losing patience, it's not very clear so far.
Lets stop talking about Donna, the void's got an echo and i'm tired of seeing the same invalid arguments again and again.
Yes! I learned this in 6th grade. It is like sampling, 10 or more different people are averaged and you basically get an idea.
there's more then 25 men on earth just because the ones that you have dated didn't like it doesn't mean there aren't plenty of others who do, your life experience does not equal everyone else's maybe you just have a certain type have you thought about that? it really all depends on who you gravitate more towards take this for example say that out of 5 guys 3 of them cheated on you it's because you have a type most likely the "mysterious" dudes or whatever it's a certain person that you gravitate towards why do you think people who grew up in abusive homes tend to fall for abusive people it's all a big circle of life experiences so you don't gravitate towards dudes who like anal and are straight, good for you guess? But that doesn't mean others don't.
And honestly Donna if you can sit here and say that you wouldn't be hurt if someone broke up with you because of your kinks/fetishes then I call bull everyone get's their feelings hurt when people who they love leave especially if it's a straight up we're breaking up and not even talk about why.
They understand, you just don't realize that what you're saying doesn't matter because the quantity of your numbers are irrelevant on such a grand scale.
Are you done yet? Why won't you let this die? No one cares Donna, you've gone on too long for anyone to care about what you say at this point.
I'm the last person who talked to you and you had already responded to Rhi, yes you were, just be quiet already. So annoying.
Honestly this is the last thing I'm gonna say and then I'm out. This conversation has gone in a whole different direction then what I was saying I was not asking about anyone's life and frankly I don't care if anyone's ever been with a straight man who likes anal it wasn't just about anal Jesus. I was just trying to let those who are most likely young viewers of the manhwa and just people in general who are naive to the populations kinks and such and that it's completely normal for someone to have a kink others may find strange but not to sit there and make them feel like as if it's wrong to feel this way (unless it's truly wrong by law) talk it out with them if you truly do care about this person because it could really emotionally scar someone or it may not but just be kind with others feelings I mean I honestly feel like were back in kindergarten learning to treat others how you wanna be treated that's all I'm saying I honestly thought that was just basic knowledge empathy is key anyways, I understand people aren't up to date on all the kinks/fetishes of the world so I was just saying it's normal, now I'm not saying you have to continue being with them and do what they wanna do if it makes you uncomfortable tell them just communicate with your s/o it's important to be on the same page. There this conversation is wrapped up all in a big red bow, Have a very nice day and I hope life is great, Goodbye! :)
I actually don't ship Heejae and Jisuh, Idrc that Heejae fell in love with Jisuh, it doesn't change the fact that he manipulated his way into Jisuhs life and made sure Jisuh would feel vulnerable so Heejae could swoop in and make everything "okay" it's fucked up. I also think Sunyool should tell Jisuh before he loses Jisuh forever.
THANK GOD I WASN'T THE ONLY ONE THINKING THIS!
agreed.
Same
I think a lot of you don't understand that Xuan Run is being really manipulative he's putting doubt in Siwons mind and making him think that deep down Siwon has feelings for Xuan Run when honestly it doesn't seem like Siwon has any feelings for Xuan Run. He's just confused and kind of ignorant to understanding his own feelings and Xuan Run is using that to his own advantage. I also don't get why everyone's calling Siwon stupid right now like what is he suppose to do? Swim off the island? does that seem like a good plan to you? He was kidnapped and has no potential way to get back home so stop acting like he wants to be there.
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I thought Xuan originally wanted Jinha anyway, and he only started to tease Siwon in order to try and understand Jinha more and retain a connection.
Lol. "kind of ignorant" -> Lol for defending him that he's not stupid when he could've avoided all of this if he wasn't stupid enough to go with the Chinese dude in the first place. It's his fault for being ignorant.
But Xuan RUn manipulated Siwon to go with him making him think he was gonna tell Siwon some big secret about Jinha
Oh no, he's definitely stupid hon. Look at what you just said, "he said he'd tell him a secret about Jinha if he came with him", is that supposed to be a counter? Before that the guy kidnapped, bound and graffiti'd his best friend and also put that picture up of Jinha and him kissing. Jinha warned him to just stay away from Xuan too. Xuan appeared in the dreams and messed with them. This list goes on with smaller conflicts like sour interactions between him and Xuan as well as him seeing Jinha upset around him. There is no argument for Siwon's brain, not just that, but his character is clearly meant to be naive. Like how he's been kidnapped to an isolated island, but has only tried to escape once, how when he was trying to escape he got worried about Xuan's injury, how he's just eating up whatever Xuan tells him about the stone and Jinha, etc. Siwon is trusting to the extent that you can see he's supposed to be a man-child.
I agree he's too trusting yes he's still young of course he's naive but that doesn't make him a over all stupid person, I mean do you have life completely figured out? He's been through a lot that takes a toll on someone, he didn't even understand his feelings for Jinha until recently and then that got shut down because Xuan Run put up the photos of them kissing and that made him vulnerable again. Yes I think he could learn to think things through a little more but he's a simple human being he cannot control everything and his feelings are what they are, he is who he is and he's still learning. So think about it do you wanna get told you're a stupid person every time you make a mistake? We are humans were meant to make mistakes and learn from them so just cut him some slack he can't even do anything right now he's on the middle of a Island stuck with a very manipulative person who will do anything to get what he wants so I'm not entirely sure what everyone wants from him right now, he's a target and that's not just gonna go away once he has everything figured out Xuan Run won't stop just because Siwon tells him too. That's really all I'm saying I guess most people wouldn't really get it though because not everyone's been a victim of stalking which is basically what Xuan Run is doing to Siwon I guess people are just really naive to this kind of topic.
and btw I said he was "Kind of ignorant to understanding his own feelings." which is completely different from just overall ignorant, I think he's just young and naive but aren't we all, lol.
But it's not "every time he makes a mistake", it's after a series of successive mistakes. It's pathological. THAT is what makes him stupid. I know everyone makes mistakes, but i don't feel like that excuse can validly be applied to Siwon, tbh. At what point does it go from "occasionally making mistakes" to being full-on stupid? Maybe stupid is too harsh, i'll say naive from now on.
but he is still young and experiencing something he's never felt before.
He's in college, though i'll give you that he wasn't ready to be outed like that. I don't think it's being gay that he has trouble with at this point, i think he got over that when he talked to his future self and saw Jinha almost die, what i think the issue is is that he got outed to everyone and suddenly had to face the prospect that society might look at him weird if he's open about his sexuality. I think THAT'S why Siwon was so hesitant with Jinha after the photo and why they broke up.
I'm pretty sure SIwon ends up with Jinha due to raws I recently saw. Jinha hasn't given up yet! and neither has Siwon.
I feel like he's gonna get pregnant somehow.
he does get pregnant i seen some picturesssss~~~
Give me a link please omg
Even if it was on insta
Anytninggg
Right? I saw pictures of him with a big tummy too. But I can't find them anywhere. I can't remember if they were official from sensei or fan made, but I definitely saw them.
Interesting
So sensei has been planning this for a whole year...whoa~~~ (≧∀≦)
I'm confused does that mean that kyungsoo just has a victim like mentality? like I don't get it is he a masochist????