Not only did his family basically discard him as a political tool by marrying him off against his wishes (all just cause he was born second). They didn’t give a fuck when he was miserable but now that he actually started to love his wife and be happy about his fate - this is when they go “actually, don’t you want to divorce? she’s not useful anymore”. Like how much disrespect can you show your son? He had to sacrifice his life and love for this marriage and now you have the audacity to ask him if he just wants to dissolve it? He agonized over it and it’s THAT easy for you?
And after he ended up liking her, instead of supporting them both for somehow working it out, you choose to further prove to him how little you care about him? Sure, a war with a father-in-law is a bad PR but a woman is sold the moment she marries so she no longer has anything to do with that family. The best thing to do now would be to support your son and his wife so that they can withstand it with dignity. But instead you show them disrespect and undermine their position by indirectly bringing up divorce? Knowing what happens later it’s pissing me off even more.
It really shows how similar him and Edith are. I like to believe that they secretly bond over being the pawns to their family’s game. Of course, not out loud, but I feel like they innately understand that about each other.
Might be some truth to that. Especially that at certain point he started to really struggle with how his family is mistreating both her and by extension him. He opened up to her because he noticed her struggles and maybe it opened up his eyes to his own family’s faults.
Love how you phrased it. Although it isn’t highlighted, Killian’s empathy for Edith shines greatly when he sees her interact with her father. He isn’t entirely sure what’s going on, but he is able to read her body language to know that *something* is up. I imagine that it’s because he knows from feeling something similar himself.
honetly until the end of the story, MLs parents are such assholes especially the dad
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like Bastian either, I think he’s a toxic piece of trash too. BUT for a character with so much inner monologue - too many people don’t even make an attempt to understand his actions and end up feeling angry at him all the time.
Bastian is a bastard, but he’s not a character who is just a villain for the sake of being a villain, he’s not inherently evil. Weirdly, his fucked up actions have a reason behind them, and if you understand the emotion he feels and how he expresses this emotion in such a twisted way, it becomes interesting to watch. A dive into a psyche of a child who’s upbringing turned him into someone with emotional intelligence of a monster. And I think in order to enjoy reading this, a reader needs to try to understand him. Otherwise you are just watching a bad guy doing bad things and I can see how it’s not enjoyable.
Then again, I’m only speaking for a manhwa so far in which he didn’t do anything that atrocious yet. But if you’re a novel reader I guess it’s fair for you to hate him from the get go considering some spoilers I have read……
Thank you!
This is what I trying to say to the haters but they are so blinded by hate and don't wanna understand him. Bastian was a loving husband to Odette before she betrayed him. She is at fault first. Bastian was just feeling betrayed.
lots of these people are too immature to understand him yet
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the only thing i hate about him is the fact that he raised the child (that he forced on to the MC btw) WITH ANOTHER WOMAN. like i would gladly shoot one of his thigh for that.
He didn't raise a child with other woman though. It didn't happen you are just assuming by the things you have read here. It didn't happen in the novel
can you tell me what really happened?
Bastian already has feelings in the novel but Odette betrayed Bastian by giving his secret/plans towards his father. Since Odette betrayed Bastian he wants his revenge by her giving birth/forcing her. Odette has miscarriage because of Bastian step mom, Odette lost his child and his dog. She leaves Bastian and went into hiding. Then Bastian search for her and wanna ask for her forgiveness/repentance for his wrong doing. (They did the bombayah during Bastian's visit) Then he went to war. Odette confess to him first through letter. She thought Bastian was dead.
He just tortured her mentally with this: like "see when the child going to born, this is what I'm going to do" as if the forced pregancy and the regular r$#e wouldn't be enough....
i see, but where the hell did they get the idea of bastian with another woman raising the child then
oh, then that’s gonna be the new reason why i hate bastian. wow, that’s fucked up. he’s fucked up.
they must confuse this manhwa with other manhwa. i think this happened on savage castle manhwa where ML will let his fiance raising their daughter (FL and ML daughter)
It was because Bastian told Odette (when he was torturing her) that he will seek his revenge (for betraying him) by making her pregnant, remove her (Odette) rights as a mother to their child, and he (Bastian) will raise the child with Sardines. This obviously never happened tho because Odette had a miscarriage. However, even if she never had a miscarriage, his revenge plan will never happen. Why? Because he already cut ties with Sardines before he even knew about Odette's pregnancy and he was already planning to live peacefully with Odette which he plans to do after his (Bastian) revenge to his father.
So conflicted on Soar.
In theory I like a psycho boy who will do anything for the FL so I actually started reading this whole thing for him. But his character seems so… bland? First if all - his reasons for being so obsessed over her are childish. And secondly - from the perspective of the FL he’s just a devoted crybaby that she initially just felt bad for because of what he went through in the original novel. Which I mean, to each their own, a bland cutie might be her type. Still can’t decide if I like him or not.
And while at the beginning I thought I’m going to dislike the prince he seems like a more interesting ML? I like that bickering siblings-like but comfy relationship that they have. FL can actually be honest around him, doesn’t act as anyone but herslef, openly shows her feelings. And she seemed to consider him as a potential partner in the past and changed her mind only because of the misunderstanding. Seems like I’m heading onto the second ML syndrome route. ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
Ahhh I dunno, I’m curious how it’s going to develop and I like how entertaining but straightforward the plot is so I’m staying but I’m not sure if it will be an enjoyable journey
IK that all the comments are complaining about the same thing but I need to pour my frustrations here.
How did everyone get so dumb all if the sudden? She was collecting nobles to support Cesar’s side for MONTHS but with such a dumb trick the empress managed to threaten her, ruin all her plans and somehow “Cesar was all alone in the palace with no one on his side”? Plus she went there all hyped up after that talk with her dad “don’t agree to their conditions, go beat them at their game” bullshit. And then what? She tries to “persuade” the queen with things like “but it’s only the training schedule that my brother has stolen, the runes refer to a dragon, the truth will come out” and when it doesn’t work she goes “AH I LOST”???
And Cesar. What happened to those years he was working hard building his reputation, why did he suddenly become a puppet crown prince with nothing to say if people feared him so much? Plus what about his poisoning, he was spitting up blood and his flesh was rotting, how did they resolve that
How easy it was to bring down that “super powerful empress” was as ridiculous as how easy it was to threaten FL and ML too. The intrigues, planning, politics and it all got boiled down to a plot reminiscent of how a kid imagines what palace beef could be like.
All that build up about the dragon church and I don’t even know who that guy Neo was. One moment he seems like a weird worshipper, the next we find out he was involved in sealing the dragon (or his lover was?) but then again, he seems to have beef with the FL. FL was trying to figure out that church and the role of that magician for years and then suddenly some random dude appeared and spit up everything like an omniscent God himself.
I laughed out loud when I saw the MF queen flying on that dragon. How did SHE suddenly became involved in this? And FL went on a magical journey to her subconsciousness and turns out that all it took to kill an ancient beast was to realize that she lives for the love and is no longer bored!!!
Lowkey disappointed they didn’t resolve her whole lingering feelings for MLs ancestor too. I mean, seemed like they were planning to do something about it but leaving it at “I used to like your grandpa but now I like you” is just weird.
The development of relationship between ML and FL was also so anticlimatic. He literally had more thoughtful and significant engagement ceremony with blondie than FL.
OVERALL I can’t hate it. I loved the characters, the art, how unique the dynamic between the male leads is, rarely a story can make me laugh out loud while reading it. So I still appreciate the story up to a point. Clearly something must have gone wrong and it probably wasn’t the creators fault. Nevertheless, the story still went to shit and I won’t pretend that I prefer to have whatever that is as an ending. I hate to see a good story ruined more than a good story abandoned.
Wow, that's exactly what I've been thinking haha. Specially the part where they all suddenly went dumb — heavy on the fl. She was so cool headed before and brushed off plenty of crisis like a breeze then she suddenly looses her composure with the empress' threat and went "I'm on wit's end" or sumn like that. Gurl, where did your first life's experiences go? Were there really nothing to help with the knowledge or experiences you've gained in your first life? How did you even survive being the empress/emperor. Crazyyy the plot really went downhill from there.
It’s so not-your typical CEO story.
The reaction of that oppa who pointed out that he should consider his position as her superior when making such advances at her? I mean, I don’t like his character either but it is great that he pointed it out. It’s true that if it wasn't a romance and they both weren’t interested in each other, he might have been a villain. Great how the story makes a point of how even if there is no obvious coercion and lack of permission, when someone is in an employee, in an inferior position, they might be unable to say no and it could still be abuse.
BUT SEOP. How self aware Soeop is of his privilege, how he feels bad, acknowledges the unfairness of it all and openly appreciates her? And how he gets so visibly careful and vulnerable around her? The fact that Seop took the friend’s comment so seriously and made sure he got a permission from her to kiss her? AND how she noticed how self-conscious he is and took the lead in the kiss? Plus she was sober so no stereotypical “oh no I was drunk and made a mistake with my CEO” bs? I love this story so much, it’s such a perfect balance between your typical romance cliches and a breath of fresh ideas on how to use them in the not-so-cliche story
The storyline is interesting and the male outfits are fine but those dresses that the FL is wearing look like something I would draw in a primary school thinking of a “princess dress”. It’s like having no idea what you’re doing and adding random elements that may look fine on the paper but if you imagine how that dress would look like in real life - it would be an abomination of a dress. What’s with the 3/4 length? Or that american prom dress with long back and short front?
Chile, anyways…. Haven’t seen Callisto since like 12 chapters ago which is 4 monthsss. Starting to get bored of this arc, where is he to save the day?
Btw is the a novel translation somewhere? I remember reading it on wattpad or something before the manhwa came out but the translator dropped it at some point.
It's already in T a p a s, you can read one ch per day and also read the ones without wuf with ads, that's how I have been reading, also buying with free ink of missions
The thing I love about them together is that even though at first I expected it to be this “girl storming through cold duke’s wall” trope, it’s nothing like that or any variation I have read on it. They are both so gentle with both themselves and each other. So awkward in a way they are trying to understand and communicate with each other but on the other side the tension makes it feel just lovely. It’s also less about breaking the walls but more about showing and accepting the vulnerabilities. A couple that leaves you with such a cosy feeling.
I knew what I signed up for but now that I got to learn about the characters backgrounds - I don’t need that reincarnation trope at all
To be honest the og owner of the body is so much more interesting and complex character. I would love for it to be a story about accepting a loss and finding some sort of closure in reuniting with children that have experienced loss too.
The ML also wasn’t that toxic - he’s just completely emotionally immature but he never tried to purposely hurt his wife, he could learn about proper family love in the process. And these feelings of wanting to make up for his emotional incapacity at the moment when she needed support and be a better man - they are all towards the og owner of the body, current FL has nothing to do with that.
She is the only piece of puzzle that doesn’t fit in this story (I mean for me, personally). Why create such a traumatic past relationship between the ML and FL when apart from “oopsie, I feel uncomfy around him cause of these damn memories” it didn’t get worked through at all? She literally didn’t care, she only keeps saying it’s none of her business cause she only cares about raising her siblings (which I mean, fair enough I guess, not blaming her but it bothers me). Ahhh I’m just not into that whole siblings love that surpasses death and parallel universe trope at all, I guess I’m dropping.
What you said is so true. I so agree with you. I also wish it was not an isekai manhua.
Omg your are so right
I know it's kinda off footing right from the start .. I would love a story like that, all about healing and development ahh.. I'm dropping after ch8 too
I’m so tipsy rogt now. I read so many similar stories that I ALWAYS forget the plot so I wasn’t even confused. I was reading it for like half of thw chapter trying to convince myslef I am grasping what’/ going on