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Unfortunately, rape and fetishistic males are very common in Koreana and Japanese BLs, so it's not all about the creator. They just do not see it as a heavy and sensitive topic like we do. I'm also tired of hearing the argument "fiction is fiction," I don't like most BL because of it. But unfortunately that's just how it is. At least there's always a certainty that the males will have a happy ending (??)

I was so fucking angry after reading the raws, I went boxing at late night to calm myself. I mean wow, the seme is.. woah such a crap, couldn't muster courage to say his feelings, well 'Anyways I'm alpha, I can rape, impregnate and get the omega.' There are people saying uke is already 3 weeks preggo but that doesn't justify how he tried to impregnate him in chapter 19 "by his alpha instinct" to stop the uke from leaving. If the uke was not 3 weeks pregnant, he would be now. And the problem is I don't have anyone to discuss BL with. But I loved this BL because it was different from usual egoistic alphas getting their omegas by force. And this far in the story, dropping this is unfair. I love the art but plot just made me so furious. I'm stuck in between.

And I'm pretty sure the uke will grow on the seme and have a 'happily ever after'.
Sorry, i needed to get this off my system, hitting gym really didn't help. And your comment made me think I can vent here. xoxo

i think all these stupid rules of heat and scent about an omega downplay the rape thing in these stories, i know its fiction but it pretty obvious.

did you even understand the raws?

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and even if you just looked at the pictures couldn't you see how this rape thing is not a big deal to anyone in the story at all?

I’m rlly angry at the uke too because when he became pregnant, the seme cared for him, but the uke took advantage of the seme’s money. Honestly, I think the seme deserves better. ╮(￣▽￣)╭

I’m rlly angry at the uke too because when he became pregnant, the seme cared for him, but the uke took advantage of the seme’s money. Honestly, I think the seme deserves better. ╮(￣▽￣)╭

it pissed you off that much you went to the gym to box? it means that much to you? lmaoo, im sorry i just thought that was cute. but yea i 1000% agree. i'd advise you'd stick with it though because this author usually has happy endings in her works

What I can't get over is how everyone keeps saying that Hyesung 'raped' him first as their logic for why it was fine. Firstly, even if that were true, one wrong doesn't justify another. Secondly, he didn't! He certainly got pushy while out of his mind in heat, but by no means was it something Dojin, who WAS in his right mind, didn't have the option to stop.

yea i wouldn't say that dojin was in his right mind either.

Well. I pretty much understood, I'm a korean language student, but I lost it in between. Well, I in the story uke begged him to stop and even said what if he gets preggo after what seme did in chapter 19, then boom he was already 3 weeks preggo. I was fine with all the heat driven sex, but well last two times when seme actually forced himself irked me.

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Ikr, I read when he came up with some agreement and the seme signed. But still why would he has to decide to give birth. Tsk tsk tsk

HAHA. Actually I was very annoyed because of other things in life and this just happened to overfill that brim and wow I was like I can't hold all this anger, and all of my friends were unavailable, and as I mentioned no one is into BL, so can't really discuss. Well, thanks for the advice I'll stick around till the end. (^^)/

Sorry I don't actually remember the names, But I'm assuming Hyesung is the seme and dojin is the uke. To which I would like to say that Hyesung being an alpha has greater strength and power than an omega. That was clear when he released his pheromones in 18chapter. So Dojin couldn't really stop though being in right mind because alpha overpowered him.
I understand people have different opinions. I just came to vent here in this comment because the original commenter also disliked this idea of forceful sex. Haha. Hope you don't take the difference in opinion personally. XOXO

And common I didn't come here to fight over. You're pretty much welcome to have your own opinion. As I mentioned I commented in this thread because I found the original commenter has same ideas so I can vent. Even if no one in the plot had any problem with the scenario, I being a reader, who's not in this plot, found it unsettling because of my beliefs.
Peace. Spread love.

yea sorry for coming a bit too headstrong. i guess i was just too triggered at that time. very sorry if i sounded like i wanted to pick a fight. let's a agree to disagree.

HAHA. Yiss. Let's enjoy more BLs from now on. XOXO.

You've got the names swapped. Hyesung is the omega, and I completely agree that Dojin raped him. Not really a matter for debate, even.

LOL. Then my comment was invalid.

I totally agree, u cant just destroy a person like the uke did cuz (omg i cant his feeling omg am gona hurt him) and then be like yeah u know what turns out i love you forgive me and forget.

Exactly! Thank you

Please re read cause this is exactly why Jaeha let Eunho treat him badly when they reunited.

What you don't understand is that Eunho and Jaeha has both hurt each other and they both suffered enough. Everyone can change if they want to. Jaeha wasn't necessarily mean, he was broken man that tried to push Eunho away to prevent him from getting hurt which did happen. As Jaeha stated in this chapter, he didn't realize all the people who were there to support him. His own parents abandoned him, love life was ruin...he thought he had nothing but that wasn't true. He thanked Eunho for saving him. He even said to the sister that he understands if Eunho doesn't want him back but he'll try. I hope you don't ever make a mistake in your relationship with your significant other because based on your take on this situation, you don't believe in forgiveness nor second chances.

the uke acutally did suffer much more before they even become a thing, from himself. please try to look past the things in this comic and get that there is no easy or simple answer to live.
I think both made mistakes and hurt each other.

You clearly didn't read this entire manwha because Jaeha has clearly suffered throughout the entirety of it. I don't get what the fuck yall want Jaeha to do? He let Eunho do whatever he wanted when they met up again. You want him to cut off his arm? Slit his wrist? Y'all some shallow people...smh.

In that case why did he agree to date him ? They were happy together then he decided to broke up. What he did was cruel.

Yeah, I can clearly see that you didn't read this...Jaeha never agreed to date Eunho. It was a bet that Eunho stated that he'll get Jaeha to like him. Eventually he did but they never were officially in a dating relationship. When Jaeha seen the ring Eunho planned on proposing , he decided to end it because he didn't want Eunho to feel like he felt and was treated long ago. Did you not read at all?

Why did he say to him that he likes him ? He gave him falses hopes.

And when you say I love you to someone, it’s clear that the person thinks you are dating

No it doesn't

I read it, my reading comprehension skills are amazing, thank you very much, which means I understood everything that happened there but still think the same. Maybe because I've had something similar happened to me too and I know what that shit means. I'm not just romantically commenting this manga being a 12 years old virgin.

Evidently not...you're probably not a forgiving person. Just because you said you comprehend well and been through something similar, your comment says otherwise. As you stated, "Fuck that shit, you made him suffer like a bitch and you deserve to suffer more too. Idiot". You're just a cold-hearted bitch to be honest.

I really think a lot of people here need to reread. lol...

Jaeha did not give Eunho false hope. He genuinely fallen for Eunho, and was ready to accept the relationship, up until Eunho family came to visit. He was scared shitless, to the point of puking. He was asked by Eunho sister to stay away from Eunho. That is why he made the decision to leave.

In his mind, Jaeha is protecting Eunho so he would never have to experience all the prejudice he got for being gay. At the same time, he also believes he does not deserve Eunho. His low self esteem is caused by having his parents disowned him, betrayed by his first love and best friend, on top of a failed marriage.

So rather than being mean, or a jerk, Jaeha's intent is actually well meaning. There are many people in the world who thought they are doing the correct thing, but in reality, it is not that easy to tell. If anything, Jaeha real mistake is underestimating the extent of Eunho love for him.

As for Eunho forgiving Jaeha so easily, well, for you to forgive someone, you need to believe that person did something bad to you. However, once Jaeha told Eunho everything, Eunho realized he was the one who had it all wrong. He barged into Jaeha life not knowing all the baggage he has. While he thought he was bringing happiness to Jaeha, it actually opened his wounds. Jaeha has been suffering all along and Eunho did not even notice it. This is why Eunho left. He is disappointed in himself.

Basically, there is not a villian here, only people being human, making wrong choices and mistakes. Both Eunho and Jaeha made mistakes, and they went through a lot before they realized and matured. I think it is a beautiful story.

Anyway, I don't know why I wrote this much, coz I am certain that nothing I say is going to make people hate Jaeha any less. ╮(￣▽￣)╭

I expected this lol, there is no need to fight over a difference of opinion. If you guys can forgive easily and move on great for you, The uke mess up the first guy he was dating totally ignore and walk over his feeling and he did the same to the seme now. They look cute together and am glad the uke is owning up to his mistake. The seme mess up too, but that dosent change what i think of people that hurt others thinking that they are doing them a favor when the favor is being done to save themselves. （￣へ￣）

Finally, someone who gets it

Please read the previous chapter.

I am, thank you. Glad you could noticed :3

they be tired of suffering (maybe) but also scared to hurt each others WHICH WAS FUCKIN INEVITABLE CAUSE OF THEIR SITUATION but hey, they deserve a break but shit that escalated quickly which made the scene more a bit not good or whatever meh anyways, i do eat pizza with pine apple

I can relate to disliking Jaeha , even though I have acted like him in the past. It's a guilt that I'll live with for my whole life , and I have gone through a lot of shit to win back their trust. Yes , I was a shitty person to some of the people I loved (with well meaning intent in my mind as well). I think I've improved now , but I don't think we immediately need to forgive victims who cause others pain that quickly. If you can sympathize with Jaeha , good for you.
But because I went through similar stuff , I can never fully forgive him. I have realized that just because I can empathize/sympathize , doesn't mean that I'll completely forget his faults. You don't have to either. (<<-To original commentor . It doesn't make you a bad/unforgiving person. Everyone doesn't always deserve forgiveness. It comes with time and their effort.)
Doesn't mean I utterly hate him, I just can't forgive him completely.

Extra Note: Although , Eunho was seriously stalker-ish and forceful sometimes in this series .

It does make you an unforgiving person. People tend to forget that there was a 2 year time skip after Jaeha broke it off. Also, as a person that knows basic Korean, Eunho doesn't give him an answer to his question until the next 3 chapters.

Hahahaha you are so very right. It was way too quickly

Yea, he was. Kinda creepy tbh but hey, that was the "best" way he found to let the uke notice him. Exactly, that's the key word "completely", I know this is fiction but come on, don't romantice everything, not everything is so easy, not everyone is so forgiving.

No , "time can heal wounds" is not something I believe in. I personally believe that time and effort (from the other party that caused it) may heal wounds .
Also , just an addition , being unforgiving is not necessarily a "bad" trait. It's just descriptive.
But , whether it makes you unforgiving or not is a subjective opinion , and I was voicing mine. So agree to disagree.
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Yep ! I agree with you completely .
Btw , I think I'm as "unforgiving" as you .~
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Well, yes, sorry for trigger but you guys are just unforgiving people.
You also need to understand Jaeha and Eunho have pretty much loved each other all their life, they're not going to forget each other and find someone else that's not an option for them. So, they had to work it out, and they did.

Yay!!! High five! xD

We never said we don't understand that love-love part. Yes, we are. Deal with it.

I don't have to deal with it thankfully, whoever dates you tho, good luck to them.

High Five !~
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Hahaha you're so cute xDDD

Omg I’m so glad I’m not alone in thinking this

Its the boar not the ox

That one, thanks