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Hey, just to let you know. This is not how I can handle real life stuff. Fiction has its place where it's safe to express these things. I'm not a fan of the rape trope. Even though I come across as if I am, because I am exploring other facets of Ian's character and roles of which his circumstances puts him in.

I didn't know you had to go through that. But my views on Omegaverses remains the same, particularly because they are omegaverses. And again, this is a fictional world.

Fictional enjoyment and rationalizations are not the same as the real world, does not carry over into the real world, and is not applicable in the real world, and vice versa. If any of this discussion is too much for you, then I am sorry. It's best to read healthier stories. If I put too much emphasis on the rape itself, I wouldn't be able to move past that to read the rest of the story.

Case in point, I had tried a lot of times in starting "A Tree Without Roots" but never could get past the first chapter. I cannot deal with Stockholm Syndrome. But once I grinned and bear it I got past the first chapter - which is still very impactful - I finally got into the meat of the story and it was very well done, the pacing, the story telling, just perfect, not to mention the exquisite art.

I see things but if I keep looking at it, I will never be able to move fwd.

I'm so sorry you went through that, but when I read this, to me, its like I'm reading a fictional horror book, in horror books, sometimes, very realistic horrible things happen, yes, but people still read it. Of course I understand that making it seem like "it's normal" is what triggers people, but I don't think people should say to the author: this is horrable, why did you make this, what is this shit... And many more things. Ok, if you don't like then just say you don't like it and say because it goes against your morals and it triggers you because its realistic, ans that's fine. But when people go and be really mean and just awful to the authors, then the fans are in the wrong, using their anonimity to be awful people on the internet and make people gove up on their art... I have seen so many manhwas having to be on brake because the authors can't handle how a portion of their fans are being to him.
Not saying this is your case, because you were very polite in saying why this story just wasn't good for you and was too realistic and in this types of stories, that just doesn't work in its favor. But yeah if it's not for you just don't read it tho

Honestly In the beginning idky I really didn't it would also turn out like that. Idk I was naive to think this Omegaverse will be all lovey dovey but I guess can't really blame someone over what irks me and doesn't irk them. Some will read it and nod along n move on. Some will get stuck n wonder why it always turn out like this. Honestly ig I just try to find an escape in these works since world is already shitty enough but then the works I end up reading turns out like this, there is always a similar trope and some similar elements that resonate with real life. In the end its just something i not everyone will see. Can't really blame anyone ig

Tbh I really wouldn't have read this if I had a slightest clue there will be a panel where uke was gonna get dragged inside. I would have dropped this

Idunno about this site but typical manhwas and novels that are produced and distributed on legal platforms have tags to tell the audience what kind of material they are getting into. This site is a free-for-all, and don't have those kids of tags, unless the users themselves (other readers) have tagged them as such, and IF they had done so correctly too, since it's very viewer biased. It's my tagged by the author or the artist or the company that produces them then, this is just all up for grabs.

*If it's not the official tags by authors and artists and their editors, then it's just up for interpretation by the general audiences here.

Sorry for typo.

youre correct. people can take fictional tropes and unconsciously or consciously create real world biases around them. but the vast majority of these people are not who this manhwa and many BL manhwa were intended for, minors. anyone can come on this site and read something 18 plus and have their perceptions of not only rape but MLM couples, consent, sex even just the general idea of dating ruined because if 16 year olds continue coming on this website and reading 18+ fictional content of course they’ll form their own biases from being exposed at a young age. its also that and the fact that the author should be able choose to write about anything they want without having to worry about “is this appropriate for someone who doesn’t like stories with rape and dubcon elements”. If you read an omegaverse story 80% of the sell is the dubcon element to it, and this isnt a sweet or wholesome story. i agree that the fiction we consume can absolutely influence our thinking in the real world but most people can draw the distinction, most adults can draw that distinction. Im really sorry youve had someone try to invalidate your experiences, and i agree with your point but unfortunately this is the way things are for the foreseeable future.

Your theory has possibility. But why did seme say that they're just fwb, and act disgusted by Uke thinking they are something

Exactly like bitch shouldn't you have cleared it before??? Why act like a domestic couple and then say we just fwb?? Like make it make sense. I guess he realised he wanted uke back but his everest size ego wouldn't allow him to talk it out like adults?? This trying to bend him with excuse of a rut like dropping that thing next to uke is too sus

That literally sounds spot on

Like seme has all qualities of a toxic alpha

Right. Only EGO and PRIDE that moved this MF. I just despise his antics as if Uke may only breath by his will. Uke is indeed an idiot when he fall for Seme, but it isn't an excuse for Seme to treat Uke like that. Such fine art, wasted by rotting plots.

uke really thought seme liked him.. Yk since he didn't clear it up uke was free to make his assumptions. I mean imagine who would think the guy you're rolling around in sheets and cooking in kitchen together happily is just looking for sex n nothing else. If he at least knew smgh he wouldn't have continued it long ago or would have made sure he never brought it up. Uke really is a victim here man.. I feel bad for characters like this thinking there are actually this kind of people out there in similar situation. That's why I hate this seme with everything I have.

I've been in this phase of trying to defend Uke while some just think Uke being stupid by coming back to apartment just to turn back the inhibitor. They got mad for Uke has no spine and only his fault presenting himself to Seme. So I told them not anyone can shake off their feeling even after they got hurt. Maybe Uke did make an excuse just to see Semee one last time by turning back that inhibitor. However, not everyone has strong heart aand will. Why do you think abused victim stay with their abuser? Its not like they re shackled at home, yet they don't just run away. This topic just heart breaaking. People just keep blaming the victim.

I really think that you are spot on for this one. I only have two questions tho. Why did seme finished their fwb relationship then? He could just have keep going for it until uke went back to Korea, right? Second, why did take seme so long to figure out that he mated with uke? He didn't remember that day, but he never thought of looking for him all those years. I know that he thought that uke was a beta, but he never checked even once?

Exactly we can't just turn off our feelings. There is always something lingering behind and uke did shut off seme when he claimed to be just fwb. If uke was stupid he wouldn't have cut him off. Maybe he really wanted to say goodbye and yk get that closure so he can move on but it went downhill... He was resisting when he realised what was going on. If he was like people r saying he would have jumped on the chance since till end he thought he was a beta and that didn't meant anything

I think the reason he ended things was cuz uke wasn't responsive like before. check out that rain scene, seme decided everything by himself and left him in the rain and about the beta thing I think even uke thought he was a beta. He's a late bloomer ig. Semes rut triggered his heat prolly that's why he was trying to run away after smelling seme scent( phenomenon or whatever it's called) I guess even he didn't know it that's why in last scene he was like that bite is still there and he believes that an alpha and beta can't bond, him wondering why the bite mark was still there proves even he thought he was a beta and didn't think he could actually be bonded to seme. Maybe he thought it didn't matter since he was beta and left without any other word to seme but when he returned he found out he was an omega and pregnant omega on top of it. I hope it helps am just rambling at this point

This theory isn't even a possibility. Did you forget Ian NEVER WANTED ANYTHING TO DO WITH OMEGAs??? In school, according to YeJun, he never socialized with omegas, and he had only had sex with betas, or at least with YeJun, who is a beta, PRECISELY BECAUSE of what had ended up happening to him. You see he knows about YeJun's crush on him. And all he would have had to do is look Noah's way, nod his head, and Noah would have COME RUNNING. Why would he resort to such lowly and underhanded method?!?

He CLEARLY had avoided omegas, only had sexual relations and socializes with betas and alphas, and when he was in rut, had released pherormones that is supposed to repel omegas so that they don't approached him. His pheromones spoke of "an utter desolation"- which is a form of self-isolation, or "other isolation" so that wouldn't end up mating and marking and getting an omega pregnant. Did you guys miss all of the crucial clues?!?

DoYoon CLEARLY hadn't even wanted a serious, choosing only to have FWB relationships. WHAT made you THINk that he had wanted to settle down and a random omega who had walked into his house of his OWN volition?!? Ian is the one who had made the decision to break it off because he had no emotional ties to Noah that way. In no way would he have enticed Noah in such a malicious and UNDERHANDED way. No matter HOW you view the alpha, he ain't a scumbag like that.

But...he wasn't being abused though?!! He was just in love...how are the two even equal?!? Wat terrible analogy....

Absolutely. He literally raped him and treated him like a fleshlight

Ofc not, hes not the type of scumbag that drops a suppressant on purpose but he is indeed the type of scumbag that rapes the birth giver of his child, lmao.

Ian wanted a Fwb relationship but did he make that clear to the other party beforehand? No he did not. Not until Noah asked him what they were.

Did Noah go to ians place knowing he was in a rut and with the intention to get marked? No he did not.
Why did he go to ians place? To see his stupid ass one last time.idk man seems like you are the one missing all crucial things/ points here.

You think seme knows uke is omega? Even uke doesn't seme to know it. And walked into his house with own volition? You really think he just went there to fuck? He broke off fwb thing cuz noah no longer wanted to fwb when he realised that's what it was, seme wanted to keep pretending that convo never happened and go back to being domestic fwb. You think he did him a favor by breaking it off?? I would have understand the whole thing if seme had just fking cleared it in beginning like an adult, did he consider ukes feelings?? It wouldn't have mattered if it was cleared before and uke had went ahead n fell in love on his own. And I don't really care how you view that alpha, till now with what I have read and UNDERSTOOD IN MY OWN WAY I will see him as a scumbag until upcoming chapters changes my view. Your opinion won't do shit about changing mine just cuz you are typing in caps. I stated my theory as my opinion ain't no one shoving it down your throat for you to defend him like that under my comment.

He is abused.
Noah just want to stay away from Ian, but there he is can't be content seeing Noah in peace. Ian must get his way to torment Noah. He won't be satisfy if Noah can live without his influence.

Your POV of forcing Ian as an innocent party here is just sickening. I won't deal with your peanut brain anymore. Your effort just useless. Witnessing you try hard in everyone's comment just pitiful. Don't you have some shame?

Do you think abuse is just of physical kind?? And op did not stated seme was a abuser. Read their comment again. .

My dear, that person just insane. Take a look of previous posters. They're everywhere in every comments that toning this abuse and rape are wrong. Defending their god; IAN in every way possible even if it is not make any sense. Save your time from a stupid game they making. Just block them. They can't make anymore comment in your post.

Just saw their comment on other one. Ig rape is forgiven in omegaverse. Just cuz a character is an omega what happens without his consent ain't rape.

That person insanity just broken beyond hope. I guess they must be some child who supposed not to visit this website. Their view for the world just naive.

Bruh I really don't wanna say it but op is moving like a rape apologist. Ok I get it it's an Omegaverse but are you seriously gonna say the rut made him to do it, why he went there, why put himself in that situation. Doesn't it all sound familiar to you? Isn't how people behave in real life with rape victims?? Why did you wear that, why did you go there alone, why did you provoke them. Honestly it's scary how they are writing paragraph after paragraph defending seme calling it critical thinking. See I wouldn't have called him a scumbag if he had just cleared it in the beginning and said they r just fwb but no he play pretended with that domestic shit, said he's sleeping with him cuz he's a beta what was uke supposed to think? Assume it's just physical on his own?? Who tf can defend him with so much confidence and say he didn't rape him. It's a fking rape if both parties aren't consenting. Ok Seme wasn't in mental state to do so he was going on his 'instincts' so what about the present?? Hm? Isn't that also rape?? He used his scent didn't he if I remember right and triggered the heat then didn't let uke see his own son. Was that not rape?? Or we gonna act like it's okay since they are 'bonded' so it's okay like people overlook marital rape. It's just so fked up man. . Sry for rambling am just baffled

I see all of that but you're assuming Ian had led Noah on. Noah had never expressed to Ian what he had wanted in the relationship until MUCH MUCH LATER. Ian had felt that since Noah was going along, that he was Ok with this sexual relationship. We don't know if he had known beforehand before Noah had explicitly asked Ian if this was theirs going out.

I'm not missing ANYTHING in fact.

Ofc Noah didn't go in there with the INTENTION of getting marked. And the same can be said for Ian. He hadn't expected an ex-FWB to suddenly show up at his door. Sure, Noah had messaged him before hand, but Ian had never read it, so how would he have known to expect Noah?!. He was already pretty far gone in his heat by the time Noah had shown up. Noah brought the injector as an excuse to see him one last time, but that injector became USELESS. The irony.

Ian had not even wanted a serious relationship, why would he consciously have sex with Noah after they had broken up?!? He was under the influence of the sex hormones and the pheromones. I REALLY don't get why you guys don't get this when this is an OMEGAVERSE. Ian had NOT WANTED any kind of a relationship, why would he have had sex with Noah after knowing his feelings and why would he mark the omega if he had been lucid. He didn't even want to settle down. Not sure why you guys only see Noah as the one who is the victim when they were both victims of their own fate?!? If Ian had been lucid he would not have had sex with Noah. Period.

And yes, I know why YeJun went there. The comic CLEARLY spelled it out. It was foolish of him to do so, yes, he didn't know Ian was rutting. But neither of them had known that Noah had started to turn/already turned, and now just need to be activated by alpha's pherormones. You're acting as if they both knew this. If they did, Ian wouldn't have let him in. But he didn't because his desire, as an alpha, is to mate with an omega. And Noah just happenes to be there, somehow got turned, and so they both took a tumble in bed. Ian was no rapist. I really don't understand why you guys don't understand the incapacitation and out-of controllness these guys feel and are under and yet you claim to understand the comic...

When it's CLEARLY an omegaverse. Maybe it's high time to go get well-versed and or re-acquaint yourselves with what an Omegaverse is. You know animalistic instincts taking over?!?

You think PPL haven't tried explaining this to her/him/them! It's been two to three weeks and they are here every other day defending ian the rapist like their life depends on it. It's literally giving victim shaming (blaming even)poor comprehensive skills and lack of a basic sense empathy

Don't be sorry.
Regardless of fiction nor reality; rape is wrong, and there's no excuse for it.

Who's peanut brain are we taking about?!? When was Ian abusive to Noah in the past?!? I'm so confused by your analysis I don't even know what's up anymore....they were literally JUST FWB. What is that so confuses that you would think that Ian had been abusive?!? You say abuse in not just in physical But in words as well. Ok. I get that. But err, WHERE in the comic in the flashbacks of their relationship was this even depicted?!?

Peanut -sized brain?!? I don't think so. Go back and reread their past.

And wow. Stooping so low as to call me names.

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NOBODY CALLED SEME ABUSER. DO YOU NOT KNOW HOW TO READ????? HOW ABOUT YOU GO CHECK MEANING OF RAPE IN DICTIONARY??? IF ONE PARTY IS NON CONSENTING IT MEANS IT IS RAPE NOTHING ELSE. BEING AN OMEGAVERSE DOESN'T EXCUSE ANYTHING!!! DO NOT FKING DARE PUT IT ON UKE LIKE YOU HAVE BEEN DOING ALL ALONG! I WANTED TO IGNORE YOU IN BEGINNING BUT YOU INDEED ARE RAPE APOLOGIST WITH THE WAY YOU TALK IT SHOWS ENOUGH. WRITING PARAGRAPHS AIN'T GONNA CHANGE SHIT. WRITE YOUR OWN COMMENTS INSTEAD.

It's not rape in an omegaverse when. Literally the very definition and setting for an omegaver is that alphas and omegas are ruled by pheromones, sex hormones and rutting and mating instincts. I'm not talking about the first chapter where he consciously induced Noah into heat. I'm talking about the rutting sex where he had no control over himself. That is not rape since he had no faculty and it wasn't of his own doing. He didn't induce himself into heat. Makes no sense whatsoever. When animals are in heat, they mate. Simple.

And no, I wasnt talking about the OP. I'm sorry but I was responding to someone who had told me that Ian had abused Noah. Or at least had used the same analogy to compare why Noah returns to Ian, because precisely they are like abuse victims, always returning to the abuser. I'm sorry but this response was not to the OP. The person who wrote this comment decided they didn't want to talk about it so I'm just including that in my comment.

Block the witch. They aren't deserve your time.

Ofc he led Noah on, it was very clear to ian and to the readers that Noah was inexperienced, he literally said ian was the first guy he had been with. It was never made clear to him what their situationship was. So how is he, a naive first timer, supposed to know it's a Fwb thing and not a relationship dating thing.
Have i ever implied that he intentionally fucked him during his rut knowing it was noah? Go search all my comments and show me where have i mentioned that anyone was aware of his omega trait manifesting, I've literally been saying for weeks that he nor ian was aware of his own fucking true gender. It's like everything flies over your head.

Like you keep giving a myriad of excuses for ian, a guy who went out of his way to assault Noah 5 years later. Why can't you share a bit of your empathy for the guy who's being assaulted by him? Is it mentioned anywhere that Noah wanted to be tied down with a baby?

Get over yourself!!!
a week ago you could barely comprehend a hyper recessive omega with all that omega verse well-versedness" of yours. And stop trying to pedal the whole rape is acceptable cause omegaverse blah blah animalistic instinct nonsense. Are they gonna be like animals the whole time? Do they have no moments of sanity or the ability to rationalize or emphasize with each other??
If the ABOverse in thIS manhwa has concepts of racism and socioeconomic statuses then why can't there also be a space to have a conversation about consent. GO RE ACQUAINT YOURSELF WITH SOME BASIC ASS COMMON SENSE.

Am genuinely baffled how they read the whole thing and came to conclusion that seme is the innocent one here like did we read the same thing? Did we miss a chapter where seme explained he just wants sex n nothing else. Critical thinking my ass.

Talking about the innocent of being under the control of sex hormones. Wasn't talking about the FWB sitch.

Lmaooo they are literally lording that "critical thinking" over the rest of us cattle people, cause i accused them of having none last week.

Well I'm sorry if I overstated my case. I don't remember who is who anymore. I'm not keeping track. There is only one of me responding and a thousand other ppl responding back, so it may have been addressed comprehensively, if not necessarily you alone. I honestly don't remember if I have ever had a conversation with you specifically about recessiveness of an omega. But since this an OMEGAVERSE where LITERALLY, while Ian was forcing the omega into heat in the beginning of the comic, is of how they become subjected to the animalistic instincts during heats and ruts, and you can also see the examples in the flash back where Ian had no control of himself. This is the Literal setting for an omegaverse, and for THIS one specifically, that they are not lucid and yes, are like animals the whole time during their ruts. I'm not taking about the time Ian forced Noah into heat consciously. That was a very douchey thing to do. I'm talking about taking responsibility as alphas and omegas, not measure by stands of betas, or people like us, who aren't under the influence of their genes to enhance their mating urges.

They already using that 'critical thinking' like a catchphrase long ago in the past. As if they alone realize how absurd their argument is, so saying 'critical thinking' can help to justify their absurd opinion ╮(￣▽￣)╭

*in the chapters at the beginning while Ian had forced Noah into heat and then forced him to have sex with him, he was explaining how omegas and alphas are made to become nothing more than animals.

The subject of mine not knowing what a hyper recessive omega (or alpha) has nothing to do with this argument or my lack of understanding of Omegaverses in general. The point is that I understand very well the setting for the omegaverse. Not understanding a hyper recessive affect this understanding none-at-all. The point is that he had either been a latent hyper recessive that had been activated or that he had been a beta and has been induced to turn into an omega is not relevant to this discussion. No matter which case this was, he's been turned, so it really doesn't matter. The point I'm trying to get across is that ppl are so upset about the rutting sex AS IF Ian had forced him into heat and sex and then marking him and knotting with him as if he had been a conscious person, such as that of beta, or of when the alpha is not in rut. The ruler by which we measure alphas and omegas by our standards as normal, non-sex hormone-influenced cycles, cannot be applied to animals, which is what they become during sex. This is not the same the conscious coercive sex we see at the begining of the comic. And yes, it depends on the author to choose how STRONGLY these primal sexual urges affect the alphas and omegas in their story. This one seems pretty strong, so that is the measure we need to go by to hold someone accountable. If an alpha or omega is overwhelmed and ruled by their mating instincts during ruts and heats then they aren't lucid and have no control of themselves. This is a natural response by alphas and omegas, such is the same if women who menstruate. They have no control over when they're going to menstruate, the length of time of the menstruation, and how heavy the cycle is, or how excruciating the PMS are. This is pure simple biology. It has nothing to do with them as human beings, when they subjected to their innately born nature, which gets expressed as they grow older. There is nothing to debate about this. You CANNOT use the same measuring stick to measure people who don't operate the same as you are physiologically. The measuring stick is for when Ian is not in rut, but is doing it intentionally. THAT'S when they can be held accountable, but NOT when they are at the mercy of the biological clock and biological structuring.

Biology simply cannot be changed. They are born with it. It's like asking a person to change their skin color or their eye color or their height. This is what they are BORN with and you cannot simply ask them to change this. You cannot ask biology to change for you. That simply DOES NOT HAPPEN.

Now, as for socio-economics and racism, these are man-made concepts. Concepts can be changed any time. They are fluid in nature and is not tied down by nor ruled by nature. They are ideas and concepts, and ideas and thoughts can change at any time.

Gurl you have been typing out dissertations after dissertations weekly defending ian long before this rut chapter update.

Even before the rut incident, ian was already an asshole by never setting boundaries in their FWB thing, stringing him along all the while knowing Noah's inexperienced and naive disposition.

Second, you can excuse the rut incident, but it's canon that ian has no qualms forcing himself on Noah outside his rut, even going to the extent of forcefully inducing a heat.
You can justify his actions all you want with your inate animalistic instincts and biological reasonings but even if it didn't exist, ian is still a fucking douche who deserved to be flamed.

What was the point of typing the useless paragraph on the bottom? what does it have to do with my initial question of the possibility for discussions of consent in this particular ABOverse if topics such as racial discrimination, socioeconomic disparities are also at play. The characters in this story are set in a modern capitalistic society, all this shits are not just mere concepts but it's literally the fabric of their societies.

Well I lost my train of thought in the end, cause it's just repetition of the same thing over and over again. Omegas would still make up for 10% in an ABO SOCIETY IT MAKES NO SENSE FOR ONE TO ASSUME THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY conversations on consent in their society, not every alpha in an ABOVERSE would be a shit stain like ian and you can see that in Noah's childhood friend who cares and supports him and his young son.

Yes yes, all this escalated from a comment I posted 70+ tabs ago about ABO stories always dickriding SA as a plot and they went on some random tangent about self lubricating assholes That's literally where it all started and it's so weird that they've chosen this to be the hill to die on

Some people just have no shame and brain. They won't stop as if this ridiculous game has their life hang on it. Just ignore their bullshit and enjoy your precious time for something else.

Hope everyone under my comment do ignore all the bs ╥﹏╥ it's morning here and I wanna leave it to yesterday. Don't let it ruin your day ahead. I was srsly just baffled last night I don't usually get involve on internet discourse but I guess last night was too much so let's just leave it. Honestly I am waiting for the next chapter for entire different reason now.

Yeah. It's like characters can't even have a simple strong, platonic connection anymore without someone pushing them as a couple. Who knows what will happen in the future? If they do turn out to be a couple on down the line, then okay. But right now, we don't know exactly what the nature of their relationship is, other than TM and possible apprentice....or at least that's how I was looking at them. TM has grown weary of the humans after a century. I feel like the kid might be the light to his darkness, as far as showing him that there is still good in humans, regardless of their shortcomings as mankind as a whole.

Exactly. Why not see the apprentice as the beacon of light and hope for TM. A new chance to see there is still hope for humans that's there is not only despair. No one has ever made him want to give humanity a second chance due all the things he has seen before. Honestly It's so freaking pure. Why are readers are not giving them a chance as characters who will grow into a better versions of themselves with each other's help instead of just a potential couple with only motto of finding a dark corner to make out only. People are getting used to seeing characters jumping on each other they forgot there is something called connection

Maaan you said what I was trying to say but SO much better. What you said was perfect. I agree. People are jumping on the bandwagon too soon. I like to see how certain things will play out because I've been wrong plenty of times. Plus, we dont always need a romantic couple. Sometimes, a friendship and or companionship is enough and push a SL or its elements a long distance. Not knocking anyone who is questioning them as a couple or sees them as a couple. All I'm saying is...let's slow down and just enjoy the story thus far. Like OP said, there was so much stuff that happened in the first two seasons and with this season, we're getting some loose ends tied up and some questions answered. I'm loving what's happening so far and despite Wolf's horrible father and his disgusting deeds, I feel like the Dragon might be kinda proud of the humans. And I'm rooting for them so that the TM can see that there still is some good there. I cant remember the kid's name, but I'm looking forward to his journey with TM.

Exactly like if there is a manhwa with side couples and side characters you gotta understand that they also have stories of their own. Why not let them be main characters of their own life. Especially with this story, wolf didn't become king on his own, he exists cuz of his make, shin and shin wouldn't have been able to do everything on his own. He needed all the pieces of chess to beat that previous excuse of a king. He needed Duke and so many others that we didn't know the name of back then but as the story progressed we got to see the glimpse of them too. Which was a fulfilling feeling. I do wanna see where TM and the apprentice go with their story. Why must everyone think there has to be a romantic plot for them to be happy and even IF there is am sure it won't happen anytime soon. There could be a time skip to the princess becoming the king. Let's see where it goes

I was scared at first, then saw the RaW to confirmed it. And then I was like "Y'all bl fans always love to think every bxb or bxm are ghei for each other".Lmao

Raw confirms no pedo there?

He said that they should go home and fuck

Wait was he jealous of his sister

OH MY GOD! What on earth possessed him to be so bold?
This was such a great chapter! The awkward ring buying, the embarrassment from being a younger sibling, gah! More please!