
I'm only on chapter 2 and I think I already hate it and looking at the comments it doesn't seem like it's that great lmao
but fr though he gets called into the office and iit's like
I'm not gay
"OK why would I care?"
Because I'm not gay and I swear I wasn't going in to the gay bar just like you because we are not gay
"But what if I am?"
You better watch your mouth or I'm gonna fuckin blackmail you
Like he's just so openly hostile out of nowhere for no fucking reason?????????

They didn't even address their issues...
Joon: Weren't you trying to tell me to study abroad?
Doha: No? Is that how you felt?
Joon: You never let me explain myself
Bruh what about the 20 chapters of
Doha: Please talk to me, tell me if you're going through any hard times I will be here to listen and I will always be by your side
Joon: I will never tell Doha a single detail about my life ever
Like aren't there more important things to be discussing????
I swear to god if the next few chapters are Joon getting in some kind of difficult situation and then having sex with Doha when Doha asks him to talk about it to avoid telling him anything I am going to end it all
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Even if it's just re-skinned dungeon/portal/tower/hunter/awakener/isekai/transmigrator slop (not always a bad thing!) I love that there's kind of a trend going of stories with actual world building and storytelling and other characters that exist and the main character just happens to like men and it's not the whole point of the story.
I mean there's still tons of stories, probably still the majority where the whole plot is "Hi I am a tall, broad-shouldered, popular top and even though I'm kind of cold/super outgoing I actually love my adorable giant sparkly-eyed childhood best friend" (● ̄(エ) ̄●)
or "Hi I am a short feminine bottom and my hobbies and personality traits are: liking strawberry cake, blushing and crying over my crush, and catching a dramatic fever when touched by even the smallest drop of liquid" ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~
But it's nice to come across some more interesting stuff recently.
Now to just get rid of omegaverse and cold/sadistic CEOs
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Like with Doha it's really clear, he feels distant because Joon won't tell him anything and because of that feels like they're drifting apart because in Doha's mind, Joon just doesn't trust him like he used to their whole lives
But with Joon it's like... wtf???
Joon: I don't want Doha to worry
Doha: You don't tell me things and it makes me worry
Joon: *distracts Doha with 2 chapters of sex*
Joon: I like him so much I can't tell him a single detail about my life because I don't want him to worry
Joon: Oh no Doha is worried because I won't tell him anything... will he understand me...? Nvm I can't tell him anything so he doesn't have to worry
*2 more chapters of sex*
????????????????????

that Skylar and Chan-il never became a thing ╥﹏╥

Uhh... ok first of all 'for who he was' is kind of key, you know...
His feelings for chan-il are just a toxic coping mechanism, but they still are his feelings. It's complex. He admits it's messes up and unfair to chan-il to use him for his unsolved trauma from minwoo but it's still a crush. Just a very toxic and unhealthy one
The way you worded it kind felt like you were negating the trouble skylar had been going through to get over his feelings for him.

When he said "I'm going to study abroad" that it would be the perfect plot point for the story to be like: Ok cool this kid made you realize your life could be better, he goes on his way to study abroad and you work on getting your life together
And then like they time skip and meet again in the future as 2 adults
But... of course... it had to go with the weird pedophile "I, an almost 30 year old man, will do whatever it takes to be with this 11 year old!" route...

I thought there were only certain purified areas and the rest of the land was in ruins and had heavy radiation, but they literally just casually drove to the southern most point of the country without any sort of protection for Im Yoon. In a chapter where there's an emphasis on him being non-immune.
Idk
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I just want to get back to the story already...
horse looking out at sea
man
i have no idea what ur saying but i love this
Lit bro can we just get back on track cuh and stop with the stupid sex episodes
real
Future sex chaps.
Same, I am actually super disappointed with this direction. Because wow, what an innovative decision to trade plot for porn. Especially now that finding manhwas with good plot without sex is a challenge. This could (should) have been in the side stories like in the novel and not thrown in here. It's annoying.
"Especially now that finding manhwas with good plot without sex is a challenge." This.
It’s been like 60 chapters of no smut. Nothing. And NOW we get smut. Either drop the story and stop complaining, or appreciate the smut bc this isn’t a non smut story. It’s a BL for a reason
There hasn’t been smut for 60 something chapters. Omg this story was inexplicably written to have smut in it. Pay attention to the tags before you read next time
yall always have something to complain about i swear. thanks for the opinions now im going to delay the mangago upload by a week unless the bot got it first
People will always complain about something sadly that's just how people stay.
Also I'm happy ur delaying these people aren't thankful enough that they get to read anything at all.
I have nothing against this work being explicit. I knew it would be. Sure, when the first sex panel came out I was surprised since it deviated from the novel but I didn't have any dramatic feelings against it.
But was it necessary to have 4 nearly consecutive sex chapters breaking into a particular arc? They could have been spread out more or put in between thematic arcs and actually worked into something longer and slower-paced.
And why do so many manhwas do exactly this? Is it a trend of late 2024? To me these chapters didn't seem natural, but rather thrown in because readers begged for some action.
I am so sorry if this is way too outrageous of a take. I know I should just shut up and be grateful we are even getting the manhwa. So please let's not get this exchange get too heated getting forward at the end of the day this is just my insignificant opinion.
60 chapters and pure plot and only 2 chapters of sex and your acting like the story has turned into a porno it could've been a special but they found a way to integrate it into the plot, having this "vision" of the future confuses the mc cause if his future is so happy and bright with the person he loves them what about his determination to die? How will knowing he gets to live another day after the great dungeon cause him to act when the time to face his biggest fear actually comes? It's impossible for a visual novel to 100% follow the novel its based on, and compared to others this change doesn't harm anything neither the plot nor the characters itself. Istg yall piss me off with your annoying ass purity complex
it really just came out of nowhere and was completely unnecessary lol. i love smut but it just does not fit here, and there has been no hint it was going to be smutty anyway. this is shounen ai about hunters and dungeons like be serious lol
I might have been a bit too aggressive with my take. I admit I was influenced by the fact that this exact thing (throwing sex chapters in the middle of current arc) happened to 4 other manhwas I was reading so it felt like I have been swarmed with just sex chapters everywhere I looked. Which of course doesn't excuse that I am being overly critical here.
So let me just give a brief reply. Exactly what you worded perfectly, the most beautiful and important part of those chapters the:
"having this "vision" of the future confuses the mc cause if his future is so happy and bright with the person he loves them what about his determination to die? How will knowing he gets to live another day after the great dungeon cause him to act when the time to face his biggest fear actually comes?"
Did it need those 60 pannels of sex? For me it was a bit too much and too out of nowhere. Like I truly am sorry. I just didn't enjoy it. And I wouldn't have made that comment but I did because someone else was brave enough to share their (as we now see based on the replies) absolutely outrageous and ungrateful opinion.
I'm sorry but this isn't a shouen ai the tag clearly says yaoi .
It's future smut . I think that's a good enough warning for future chapters.
2 chapter of smut isn't smutty for a yaoi.
Pls why do u people have to always complain about something that was already obvious. It's your fault for not reading tags ( ̄へ ̄)
I was surprised about the smut as well but dam u people are overreacting.
tags have been wrong many times before, specifically with shounen ai and yaoi. but i think the only one overreacting is you lol, these are all very tame complaints and you dont seem to be able to handle it. just getting upset in the replies lol
I'm not upset. But I am annoyed ( a bit)
Tame complaints about something tame honestly everyone is free to give criticism where it's due. Everything is flawed but this is just ridiculous.
I get some people may not prefer the smut.
But I'd just like to clarify that this is yaoi and whoever thought otherwise it's on them .
lol ok
Delay it for a month if you want, I love it and I appreciate the updates.
Matter a fact, put a placeholder too just to fuck with the ungrateful ones. I’ll be glad to suffer so they can too
Dude it’s tagged as a YAOI
ITS NOT SHONEN AI
YAOI IS ALWAYS EXPLICIT
get fucking real
…… ITS TAGGED AS YAOI
ITS NOT SHONEN AI
read the damn tags before you read. Your actually insane for this
lol cry more
They are not crying just stating the fact it was yaoi . And the smut did not come from nowhere.
Let's not be childish .
LOL they’re clearly throwing a fit but ok
At this point idk who's throwing the fit, the people that didn't read the tags.
Or the person who had to mention the tag more then once.
"no hint" the all age version was out in early 2024, literally the same day s2 started. author gave a hint ONE YEAR ago.
i didn’t mention the tag more than once lol, but this person responding to me in all caps in more than one comment is screaming upset so say what you want lol
i don’t follow any authors, i read on mangago there is way too many
that's on you bruh. i was just telling you that it's neither "out of nowhere" nor "no hint"
I never said u mentioned the tags .
I was implying the people who mentioned the tags were not throwing the fit .
The people that didn't know anything or read the tags were the one throwing the fit.
I didn't think I'd have to spell this out.
I wanted to be indirect ( ̄∇ ̄")
lol think whatever you want
That goes both ways. Have a good day
bro what the fuck i just made one little offhand comment about how i like the plot and come back to world war 3 in the replies lmfao
I just looked at your profile, yeah you’re just a corn addict that’s why
Your quick to assume .
Shall i assume ur a creep for reading sheeps mask and a porn addict for reading love is an illusion?
Hop of my dck we read almost the same thing.
Just because I read things with smut doesn't make me a porn addict. I dont activly go looking for smut with every bl.
Cause I also love gender bender and other bl with little to no smut.
and you're obsessed with shota LMFAO
Oh fxk nah that's gross
I’m not throwing a fit, they are bc they don’t know how to read tags. Shonen Ai is not the same as Yaoi. Yaoi gets explicit. I’m on YOUR side. These people are ungrateful and complain about the smut that didn’t come out of nowhere. It’s crazy.
I might’ve misread but hey, that’s what happens when you have two pages of comments lmao
That was actually an accident and I can’t delete the duplication. I thought my reply didn’t go through little did I know, there was a second page.
Still. Read the damn tags and leave if your that upset over some smut 60 chapters in on a Yaoi manhwa.
I agree on the tags dw these people just want to complain about something (〜 ̄△ ̄)〜
Listen…. I don’t care that your into Shota, I’m into it myself, but you dug your own grave calling them a porn addict (you don’t have to censor yourself here, this isn’t TikTok) when your into Shota and a Shotacon.
At least I own up to it and don’t call others porn addicts when you yourself are into the “porn”
And one of y'all who likes shota con but has the audacity to call me a porn addict, get a fxking life u gross ass weirdo.
Tf u like watching children ( disgusting sht)
Nah ur into that too bro no (╯°Д °)╯╧╧
It’s so dumb. I hope uploader punishes them by prolonging the upload by like a month. Never fuck with the uploader bc they hold your free reading in the palm of their hands.
I’m not weird about it and I don’t shove it into others faces. I’m actually normal most of my lists actually doesn’t have much Shota surprisingly enough.
But they actually pissed me off by being a hypocrite
Agreed
It’s not real, and they look nothing like children. It doesn’t make you a pedo (I have the citations to back it up) yeah it’s weird. But it’s not the WEIRDEST thing.
everyone has their likes and dislikes, like I’m not into gore, vore, horror films (like ghosts and demons kinda deal) certain shows actually freak me the fuck out and I wouldn’t be able to sleep. Anything to do with eyes like in final destination actually fucked with me for a while. But other people are completely into that. And more power to them. It is what it is.
Don’t like don’t read is how we do things around here. Which is why I don’t get these people reading what they don’t like. Just like? Don’t read it??
I can agree on the don't like don't read and shota is no for me .
Seeing that u like it , I'll be respectful and not say the words I'd normally would to people who read it.
Usually I just really dislike the authors who make shota con and see them as a pedo.
some ( most ) shota con do look like children and it still implies a under age boy /girl X older person.
Even if it's not real ( fiction does dispicts from reality and a person's fantasy)
Wise reading it doesn't activately make u a pedo ( it's still weird for me to grasp why people want to see a child get fucked )
And I still believe authors of shota - con are disgusting.
But as u said don't like Don't read.
Exactly! I can respect your opinion as well. You don’t have to always agree with what people enjoy, but it comes down to minding your own business tbh.
As long as no one is getting hurt or exploited, then the creation is free to exist. This sentiment doesn’t apply to people that make fanfiction and works representing REAL PEOPLE like K-Pop fans do. I have seen Instagram accs dedicated to shipping members together and making fan works. I feel that actually hurts people. And it’s weird.
Kinda like how everyone likes furries, but I’m not a fan of furry stuff at all and I think it’s beyond weird I’ll never understand how people can almost idolize furries making furry porn but demonize the Loli/Shota when they are arguably just as weird. Only difference is that furries for some reason think of themselves as better???? (Not all but a good chunk of them are like that.)
Fun fact: the author of Black Butler has written Shota manga before. But BB isn’t a Shota manga. You can like an author’s work and not all of their work at the same time.
Always thought black butler was shota.
And yes we don't have to agree to respect each other opinions.
I could say more but it would be a lot of say
The basics to remember is crimes are committed by criminals, not from someone enjoying fictional content.
Even if someone committed crimes after reading a book, it wasn’t the book that caused them to do it, it’s their already fucked up mind that okayed them to do it and if they blamed the content, they likely used the content as a scapegoat to shift the blame from themselves. It’s the same concept of video games don’t promote violence. Which was debunked ages ago.
Idk it’s something to think about, and I’m always open to the discussion bc I did a lot of research on it with laws and psychology.
Yeah black butler isn’t. The author has done Shota content before, but BB is 100% normal and not Shota.
It was never supposed to be. The whole “BB was suppose to be Shota” that was actually a lie and a false rumor. Idk where it came from bc even I thought it was true til last year.
I see.
*Kneels down and touches dirt* Something terrible happened here.
the more they talk the worse it gets
Oh noooo pls don’t delay the transitions nooooo You’re the only person who can translate