
I just want to get back to the story already...
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Same, I am actually super disappointed with this direction. Because wow, what an innovative decision to trade plot for porn. Especially now that finding manhwas with good plot without sex is a challenge. This could (should) have been in the side stories like in the novel and not thrown in here. It's annoying.

I have nothing against this work being explicit. I knew it would be. Sure, when the first sex panel came out I was surprised since it deviated from the novel but I didn't have any dramatic feelings against it.
But was it necessary to have 4 nearly consecutive sex chapters breaking into a particular arc? They could have been spread out more or put in between thematic arcs and actually worked into something longer and slower-paced.
And why do so many manhwas do exactly this? Is it a trend of late 2024? To me these chapters didn't seem natural, but rather thrown in because readers begged for some action.
I am so sorry if this is way too outrageous of a take. I know I should just shut up and be grateful we are even getting the manhwa. So please let's not get this exchange get too heated getting forward at the end of the day this is just my insignificant opinion.

60 chapters and pure plot and only 2 chapters of sex and your acting like the story has turned into a porno it could've been a special but they found a way to integrate it into the plot, having this "vision" of the future confuses the mc cause if his future is so happy and bright with the person he loves them what about his determination to die? How will knowing he gets to live another day after the great dungeon cause him to act when the time to face his biggest fear actually comes? It's impossible for a visual novel to 100% follow the novel its based on, and compared to others this change doesn't harm anything neither the plot nor the characters itself. Istg yall piss me off with your annoying ass purity complex

I might have been a bit too aggressive with my take. I admit I was influenced by the fact that this exact thing (throwing sex chapters in the middle of current arc) happened to 4 other manhwas I was reading so it felt like I have been swarmed with just sex chapters everywhere I looked. Which of course doesn't excuse that I am being overly critical here.
So let me just give a brief reply. Exactly what you worded perfectly, the most beautiful and important part of those chapters the:
"having this "vision" of the future confuses the mc cause if his future is so happy and bright with the person he loves them what about his determination to die? How will knowing he gets to live another day after the great dungeon cause him to act when the time to face his biggest fear actually comes?"
Did it need those 60 pannels of sex? For me it was a bit too much and too out of nowhere. Like I truly am sorry. I just didn't enjoy it. And I wouldn't have made that comment but I did because someone else was brave enough to share their (as we now see based on the replies) absolutely outrageous and ungrateful opinion.

I'm sorry but this isn't a shouen ai the tag clearly says yaoi .
It's future smut . I think that's a good enough warning for future chapters.
2 chapter of smut isn't smutty for a yaoi.
Pls why do u people have to always complain about something that was already obvious. It's your fault for not reading tags ( ̄へ ̄)
I was surprised about the smut as well but dam u people are overreacting.

I'm not upset. But I am annoyed ( a bit)
Tame complaints about something tame honestly everyone is free to give criticism where it's due. Everything is flawed but this is just ridiculous.
I get some people may not prefer the smut.
But I'd just like to clarify that this is yaoi and whoever thought otherwise it's on them .

Your quick to assume .
Shall i assume ur a creep for reading sheeps mask and a porn addict for reading love is an illusion?
Hop of my dck we read almost the same thing.
Just because I read things with smut doesn't make me a porn addict. I dont activly go looking for smut with every bl.
Cause I also love gender bender and other bl with little to no smut.

Listen…. I don’t care that your into Shota, I’m into it myself, but you dug your own grave calling them a porn addict (you don’t have to censor yourself here, this isn’t TikTok) when your into Shota and a Shotacon.
At least I own up to it and don’t call others porn addicts when you yourself are into the “porn”

It’s not real, and they look nothing like children. It doesn’t make you a pedo (I have the citations to back it up) yeah it’s weird. But it’s not the WEIRDEST thing.
everyone has their likes and dislikes, like I’m not into gore, vore, horror films (like ghosts and demons kinda deal) certain shows actually freak me the fuck out and I wouldn’t be able to sleep. Anything to do with eyes like in final destination actually fucked with me for a while. But other people are completely into that. And more power to them. It is what it is.
Don’t like don’t read is how we do things around here. Which is why I don’t get these people reading what they don’t like. Just like? Don’t read it??

I can agree on the don't like don't read and shota is no for me .
Seeing that u like it , I'll be respectful and not say the words I'd normally would to people who read it.
Usually I just really dislike the authors who make shota con and see them as a pedo.
some ( most ) shota con do look like children and it still implies a under age boy /girl X older person.
Even if it's not real ( fiction does dispicts from reality and a person's fantasy)
Wise reading it doesn't activately make u a pedo ( it's still weird for me to grasp why people want to see a child get fucked )
And I still believe authors of shota - con are disgusting.
But as u said don't like Don't read.

Exactly! I can respect your opinion as well. You don’t have to always agree with what people enjoy, but it comes down to minding your own business tbh.
As long as no one is getting hurt or exploited, then the creation is free to exist. This sentiment doesn’t apply to people that make fanfiction and works representing REAL PEOPLE like K-Pop fans do. I have seen Instagram accs dedicated to shipping members together and making fan works. I feel that actually hurts people. And it’s weird.
Kinda like how everyone likes furries, but I’m not a fan of furry stuff at all and I think it’s beyond weird I’ll never understand how people can almost idolize furries making furry porn but demonize the Loli/Shota when they are arguably just as weird. Only difference is that furries for some reason think of themselves as better???? (Not all but a good chunk of them are like that.)
Fun fact: the author of Black Butler has written Shota manga before. But BB isn’t a Shota manga. You can like an author’s work and not all of their work at the same time.

I could say more but it would be a lot of say
The basics to remember is crimes are committed by criminals, not from someone enjoying fictional content.
Even if someone committed crimes after reading a book, it wasn’t the book that caused them to do it, it’s their already fucked up mind that okayed them to do it and if they blamed the content, they likely used the content as a scapegoat to shift the blame from themselves. It’s the same concept of video games don’t promote violence. Which was debunked ages ago.
Idk it’s something to think about, and I’m always open to the discussion bc I did a lot of research on it with laws and psychology.

I'm only on chapter 2 and I think I already hate it and looking at the comments it doesn't seem like it's that great lmao
but fr though he gets called into the office and iit's like
I'm not gay
"OK why would I care?"
Because I'm not gay and I swear I wasn't going in to the gay bar just like you because we are not gay
"But what if I am?"
You better watch your mouth or I'm gonna fuckin blackmail you
Like he's just so openly hostile out of nowhere for no fucking reason?????????

They didn't even address their issues...
Joon: Weren't you trying to tell me to study abroad?
Doha: No? Is that how you felt?
Joon: You never let me explain myself
Bruh what about the 20 chapters of
Doha: Please talk to me, tell me if you're going through any hard times I will be here to listen and I will always be by your side
Joon: I will never tell Doha a single detail about my life ever
Like aren't there more important things to be discussing????
I swear to god if the next few chapters are Joon getting in some kind of difficult situation and then having sex with Doha when Doha asks him to talk about it to avoid telling him anything I am going to end it all
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Even if it's just re-skinned dungeon/portal/tower/hunter/awakener/isekai/transmigrator slop (not always a bad thing!) I love that there's kind of a trend going of stories with actual world building and storytelling and other characters that exist and the main character just happens to like men and it's not the whole point of the story.
I mean there's still tons of stories, probably still the majority where the whole plot is "Hi I am a tall, broad-shouldered, popular top and even though I'm kind of cold/super outgoing I actually love my adorable giant sparkly-eyed childhood best friend" (● ̄(エ) ̄●)
or "Hi I am a short feminine bottom and my hobbies and personality traits are: liking strawberry cake, blushing and crying over my crush, and catching a dramatic fever when touched by even the smallest drop of liquid" ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~
But it's nice to come across some more interesting stuff recently.
Now to just get rid of omegaverse and cold/sadistic CEOs
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Like with Doha it's really clear, he feels distant because Joon won't tell him anything and because of that feels like they're drifting apart because in Doha's mind, Joon just doesn't trust him like he used to their whole lives
But with Joon it's like... wtf???
Joon: I don't want Doha to worry
Doha: You don't tell me things and it makes me worry
Joon: *distracts Doha with 2 chapters of sex*
Joon: I like him so much I can't tell him a single detail about my life because I don't want him to worry
Joon: Oh no Doha is worried because I won't tell him anything... will he understand me...? Nvm I can't tell him anything so he doesn't have to worry
*2 more chapters of sex*
????????????????????
ever since able turned into a little girl
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