Um..i just wanted to say that, for me uge is that character who literally had the best character development in this series til now becoz as yall can see he literally adhered, adjusted himself without anyone's help nd is still doing gud nd i hope in the future too along with his own partner he will do gud...and yeah..again i want to make yall realize that aki was saved by three ppl-1 mafuyu, 2-ugetsu, nd 3-haruki..u may ask why maf becoz its his music, resonating power which made akihiko realize that he loves music, secondly why uge becoz he left akihiko for aki nd his gud becoz he didn't want aki to make him feel more miserable than he already was (this was stated for akihiko) he literally gave aki his own freedom to be happy nd continue with his life, nd lastly haruki who despite what happened between them(aki nd haruki) then also he gave him place, peace nd comfort...and yeah i just wanted to say that uge is not manipulative, abusive becoz if he was then he could have emotionally manipulated aki to stay with him if he wanted nd could have used his tears as the triggers but no he didn't becoz he is not a toxic, bad, manipulative character he is truly a gem nd he wish for akihiko's well being....thank you
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Pretty sure ugetsu manipulated and abused akihiko for the past two years and he frankly admitted it himself he was cruel to akihiko, reason that he was finally able to let go, it's because of mafuyu's song. The song resonated to all three of them aki haru and uge. For ugetsu to let go, for akihiko to move on and change for the better to the person he loves and for haruki to give love another chance
This !!!!!
Love when people talk about ugetsu in this way
Um...i don't know how uge manipulated, abused aki i mean from where u r getting these things....yeah i think from the ppl of fandom from twt....um u know i think u should believe in ur brain instead of it (brain) getting manipulated by the ppl of this fandom...there was never manipulation, abusive thing arose from uge's side, uge nd aki they both very not gud for each other, they both were hurting each other, u should know that uge had depressive tendancies, so putting blame on uge for everything doesn't fit right with me..as u can see aki literally had many ppl like haruki, ue, mafu, yayoi around him but uge he literally had no one around him during those time when he cooped up in his basement all alone those nights even now also all alone taking gud care of himself(imma pround of my uge boi)(๑•ㅂ•)و✧.. don't u feel any kind of emotions for him yeah its okay if he's not ur favourite, comfort chara but i wish that yall try to understand his chara in a very exact, gud manner...plus yall akiharu stannies putting blame on ugetsu does not fit right to me, uge literally never knew what happened between aki nd haruki then also he was the one who was blamed with having done nothing among them, he was literally not knowing the situation of akiharu then also u guys put blame on him i mean come on u guys justify akihiko's action but put all blame on uge....hope u understand....thanks
I didn't say I was blaming everything on ugetsu, and it's not an assumption, it's a fact that he confessed it himself he cruelly treated akihiko, "I'm the lowest son of a bitch towards akihiko, I guess he resents me now" this line is on chapter 16 where he told mafuyu his past.
He knew akihiko is struggling with insecurities yet he constantly belittles his band and drum skills "Is this a level that's something you can show me?" Honestly, he never showed interest and support with akihiko's band until he saw mafuyu. Also, his break up was half assed, he could've kicked akihiko out in his basement a long time ago yet he played push and pull, he used akihiko when it's convenient for him, giving him mixed signals with their "honeymoon phase" only to shatter akihiko's heart the next day, and it continues to the point it emotionally and mentally broke akihiko and we haven't even seen him apologize, it wasn't fair that in the end only akihiko got to apologize for everything. Depressed or not we shouldn't justify ugetsu's manipulative and abusive behavior, it's still doesn't give him the rights for being an asshole or traumatized Akihiko, especially he's fully aware and admitted what he did was wrong. I know Akihiko's partly to blame as well why their relationship got extremely toxic. Besides,
This is a similar case to akihiko's actions towards haruki in code 20. What he did is unjustifiable, just because he is suffering/hurting of his issues with his ex still doesn't give him the rights to reflect all those anger on haruki
I know that a person' past mistakes doesn't always define a person, but at least let's be aware & admit that our faves did problematic stuff that shouldn't be justified, abuse/assault is and will always be wrong
Listen here, in my top first comment i stated "for me" okay it was not for everyone, i was just sharing my thought...nd first of all uge loves music more than anything so yeah he didn't love aki that much, nd same goes for aki who was having feelings for two guys at the same time like u know when yayoi stated how during given's first live from that time only he was in love with haruki so u tell me is it okay to hurt/assault the person u love by whatever is going in ur life nd yeah uge said all those things but that doesn't change the fact that he thinks so much for aki when we never got anything like this from aki's side nd all those things which uge did was just to make aki feel hatred towards ugetsu so that he would leave uge, he did everything just to let aki be free nd at last aki got free so nd that helped uge too to feel less guilty than he already was nd u say aki's insecurities then what abt uge's depression u know depression is much more serious than insecurities aki had haruki all those times nd uge was all alone it's way more serious, try to think abt that complex, extraordinary character (uge) a lil more i know u love akiharu that's why u wont understand nd blaming part was not for u but for those ppl who thinks everything happened between aki nd haruki was uge's fault.....nd i won't reply anymore if my comment/topic like this offend u then don't read okay this was not for u this was for me becoz i wanted to write it...so bye bye....
I mentioned it there that akihiko's assault should not be justified as well as ugetsu's abuse no matter what the reasons. We can all empathy with both of their character but their previous actions were certainly wrong.
why u guys are making issues like come on now literally if the pinning is mutual then its rape, like what? if shizu would have done nothing then also yall would have abused/hated him for not doing anything i know its rushed but maybe in the next chapter they will talk so wait, have patience.....lets wait for the next chapter to know about the situation in more understandable manner then give the opinions seriously yall r giving ur opinons just from one panel or one chapter is not fitting right/gud for me plus yall are saying it the rape, why? i just couldn't understand ur mind at all ┑(￣Д ￣)┍...even in the raws, translation summary on twt and with this translation from the team everything is crystal clear that its consensual but i dont know why yall want to create mess, i just dont get it
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I don't know anymore....sigh...... ╥﹏╥ u guys can fight each other, create misconception do that if that makes yall happy.... ╥﹏╥... literally im fed up...(╯°Д °)╯╧╧
They are not dark or toxic why cant u just accept the content in the fruitful way its not like everything will be a/c to ur fantasies like u all read other comics where the mc force himself on uke and then at last they get their best happy ending so u all will accept/read those kind of stories but then this author who is trying to showing this intimate scene in realistic manner u say they r toxic i mean not everything/everycouple will not be the the same....like shizu was genuinely in love with hiiragi for so long and hiiragi too and when their feelings were mutual they had done the deed so What's the problem in that i dont understand how u ppl will read those smut/rapey mangas nd enjoy them to ur heart content but when something wholesome act is showing u will be like (oohh no they raped/they r toxic/dark)...fyi its just that we all never saw him making a overjoyed face and here is where the problem rises i mean the author brilliantly done the great job by making him more expressive like hiiragi himself said shizu in the present timeline hardly smiles....listen im not here to fight anyone but just genuinely want that everyone should respect the author's nd scanlation team's hardwork in the very gud manner....hope it helps.....thnx (●'◡'●)
I think kizu left us a hint as u all can see that when baby shizu smiled his eyes were not shown but when u see teenage shizu smile his eyes were shiny i mean if u focus more on his eyes than on his smile i think u will understand something i mean its true that after that panel his eyes were not shown..., umm... How do i put i mean...maybe Shizu cried a lil bit, listen im just saying although i dont know myself whether im correct or not but maybe im right becoz it can happen to anyone i mean when u r too much happy/excited u can burst out laughing/crying, becoz as u can see shizu was the foster child and as hiiragi said in this chapter shizu was full of voids so something happened to him in his childhood and that's why in present timeline he thought that finally hiiragi is his and is allowing shizu to love him...but anyways we have to wait for the next chapter...i was just giving my thoughts becoz as i was reading it again i felt like that that i might be right plz dont be negative with my feed i hope u all will understand
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Now this is what u call a perfect precise translation (▰˘◡˘▰) spring turtle translation literally cleared the air of misunderstanding among the readers that this was non-con or rape so thank u STS ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶...
This was all consensual i dont take the critiques....hiiragi was relieved at the end (●'◡'●) he was just scared of shizu's grin, not with having done the deed with shizu....so plz dont spread misguided info among other ppl... Hope it helps....(づ￣ ³￣)づ
I was thinking the same thing as i was reading. I'm glad because I really like Shizu so i wasn't pleased with people bashing my boy （￣へ￣）
Oh its okay becuz we think the same, in my opinion shizu was just overflowing with intense emotions that's why he bursted out laughing, he was not laughing at hiiragi or was not making fun of hiiragi, so everything is cool and yeah why hate shizu who throughout his life always genuinely loved hiiragi following him, taking care of him, and especially supporting hiiragi, i think ppl r just trying to make the issues i mean come on its not like he wont show any kind of expression, it was his joyful expression as u can see he grinned the same way as he did in his childhood and i think he looks pretty nd beautiful plus hiiragi was relieved at the end so everything i gud ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶ and im happy STS did their job efficiently and beautifully and ppl should also respect the translation team's hardwork they r just doing it for all of us to understand everything in a precise manner so once again thank u STS
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so yeah ppl should not bash/hate shizu nd thank u for understanding, u were also right they shouldnot bash him for being happy thanks to u too (▰˘◡˘▰)......
I also love shizu very much ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄ ..... He is a big but cute loyal boy who needs more love and recognition...im happy hiiragi has someone like him along his side becoz shizu will always cherish him ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶...
Sometimes u have to accept the content which u r getting and its true that the very content will not be according to ur fantasy/dream becoz ur not the author ....i am saying this becoz i think why kizu showed the hugging gesture from shizu for hiiragi plus his inner monologue at the end was to clear the doubt from the readers's mind that it was not rape/non-con/dub-con..becoz if u read the chapter in positive manner everything will be then every panel/context will be clear to u....becoz i think that u should not believe the others whatever they r saying without knowing the circumstances they say that they r afraid of his smile and that he putted his own comfort first no that is totally wrong becoz u all should wait for the precise translation from the scanlation group plus u all should wait for the next chapter to understand the situation more precisely....im saying this becoz i saw ppl on twt mostly those akiharu stannies they were saying how hiiragi deserve better/shizu putted his own comfort/no lube,condom i mean why r u making issues the author never shown one using the lube/condom in the series why not just enjoy the chapter u guys literally defend the adult's mistake plus say those things like how he changed for better for his beloved and then put blame on ugetsu when uge was not even knowing anything abt the situation b/w akiharu....listen i dont want to create the mess here im just saying that stop spewing nonsense and ppl should also stop believing those nonsense i mean u all have brain yet instead of using ur brain u believe others's posts.....now with the translation the translation is not done very accurately or i should say it was all mistranslated as hiiragi was just scared of his smile but was not uncomfortable with shizu and its crystal clear too as u can see the last panel hiiragi was satisfied plus he literally stated that shizu laughed the same way as he did back then....plus i think that shizu was overflowing with the emotions that's why he bursted out smiling/laughing nd it was not that he was making fun or something he was just happy so everything is fine.....i dont know what u ppl will think of this post but i again wanted to share my thoughts with u guys nd i hope u all will understand..... (=・ω・=)
why u all are believing the translation i prefer u all to go re-read the translation summary on twt and wait for the scanlation release, plzz it is consenual plzz dont hate shizu for being intimate with hiiragi and showing his laugh/expression to hiiragi this boy needs love plzzz (hiiragi too) ╥﹏╥ he is just too happy, thats why he bursted out laughing plzzzz...... he is clearly not making fun of hiiragi plz understand (￣∇￣"),
╥﹏╥ plzz....
sorry to bother ╥﹏╥ but do u happen to know the twt user with the translation summary?? is it like just the official given acct??
no ur not bothering at all (●'◡'●)
the twt user-@marutsukete, i think her name is keru
hope it helps ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶..
thank u thank u vmm (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
ur welcome (▰˘◡˘▰)
hope ppl will understand that this is consensual (￣∇￣")
i think the comment got deleted so if u need the twt handle of the person who do the translation summary of the chapters,
twt user- @marutsukete, i think her name is keru
hope it helps...
listen i want to make a clear thought on this issue...as i have seen many of u people thinks that shizu forced himself or raped hiiragi because i clearly dont think so and i wish that u all will understand that if shizu wanted to rape or assault hiiragi he could have done that from the starting only like when hiiragi initiated the kiss, shizu could have lost his control and pinned him down at that time and could have assaulted him from there onwards but then also he asked hiiragi whether if he was in his right mind or not plus if u note shizu clearly stated that hiiragi will cry for sure but hiiragi declined yet he cried (i think hiiragi is sensitive type)....so what i want to say that this is not rape or non consensual as u can see again if shizu wanted to take advantage of hiiragi he could have kissed him in mix 8 when hiiragi was nervous but no he gave hiiragi a time to sort out his feeling and think what they want to be in the future..plus, yeah if u r in relationship u dont only just hold hands or being touchy with ur lover u want to be intimate with them and shizu literally made this clear to hiiragi.
Plus you all say consent can be revoke yeah it can then hiiragi could have punched/kicked shizu its not like his legs or hands were tied by something if he was feeling uncomfortable by having doing the deed with shizu but no he didnt because he was not disgusted/uncomfortable with all these, instead he was just afraid of shizu's expression and one more thing i want to make clear is that the author herself never showed any kind of lube/condom in those all intimate scenes b/w the pairs which happened throughout the manga....when shizu literally prepared hiiragi before penetration.
Plus stop saying shizu putted his own comfort first when the boy was literally again and again asking hiiragi whether he wanted to stop so stop saying it was rape or whatever...
Plus i think shizu would never do something bad to hiiragi like the boy was literally spoiling hiiragi thorughout his life until now...
SO whats the problem if they did the deed and why u all are so opposed with this chapter, like we all should wait for the next chapter to understand the situation more precisely and then give the opinions..
And yeah once again i am saying that hiiragi is relieved at the end so everything is cool....so dont hate shizu plzzzz...╥﹏╥
hope it helps づ￣ ³￣)づ ....
Anyways, strongest- uge, shizu, yuki (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
stronger- mafu, ueno, haruki, hiiragi plus
kedama (⌒▽⌒)
Weakest- akihiko (〜￣△￣)〜
Hey don't be offended okay.....hahaha.....(￣∇￣")
Just the true