ravenc's Topics (140)

I totally feel you and this makes me sad.

Happens ALL the time in every story.

I feel like I don't want to read the comments anyone. It is ruining the whole story for me.
I'm gonna go and enjoy Masato's pic from 10 years ago. Hella hot he was (▰˘◡˘▰)

I agree. People these days keep criticizing the stories that the authors have written without realizing that the flaws are what makes a story beautiful. You don’t have to like everything or forgive every character to understand a story. Instead of focusing on the bad, people should focus more on the good takeaways and what’s really important - the different types of love, people, and reasonings behind their actions. Even if you don’t agree with everything a character does, it doesn’t undermine the story’s value at all.

Exactly, i personally found these characters in the spinoff to be interesting and flawed and maybe not relatable in their actions but relatable in their feelings and id love to read more about any one of them

I think people find perfection in fiction because I guess it's suppose to be an escape from reality but then those wouldn't be people, they'd be just robots or something. People are flawed and stories about people have to portray HUMANS. I guess this is just me but what I like about reading stories about people is that I am given a 360 view of how a human character thinks and acts, just like what I wish I could do in real life but I can't because I can't get into their heads, back stories and such. I don't know...are they just narrow-minded or just lack analytical skills for human psyche and narrative and just want to feel good reading.

And I'm guessing in the real world you would lack the conscience to tell people that what they did is wrong, that they crossed the lines, that they shouldve thought about people's feelings before provoking them etc... Sure everyone has a certain backstory... that doesn't mean their actions are forgivable. Naru apologists are so damn pretentious.
The story isn't even that masterpiece anyway... ending is terrible and left much to be desired (like someone said in the topics above)

I feel in this story specially that mangaka raised herself on to a whole new level. I really liked how she made characters that were stereotyping the action and not the gender. Each character was developed exactly how their past moulded them. It is very easy to jump on the wagon and comment about doing righteous thing. But at some point of time you lose to your emotions and do some wrong things but that doesn't mean you are a bad person. Mangaka very subtly made us see why they were doing these things. Someone in the comments mentioned earlier that their actions are not right but they are not that unexpected.

Mangaka: *slaps a 5-page backstory*

Fans: "wow that was very subtle, i totally understand why he did what he did, such good writing"

（￣へ￣）

Ah, I think I spoke too soon, sorry.

That back story only supported Naru's persistence to help Asahi but the friendship he has with Asahi was established chapters ago. Naru knew Masato for years. The author built Naru while developing the main characters at the same time. If people didn't get that, it's not the author's fault. The mangaka was actually efficient with writing each characters. Minaduki is not top tier but her characters are well rounded, even the supporting characters, for the tone/weight of her stories. Meaning, it's just enough. Her stories are not too convoluted nor stupidly superficial.

"Apologists", "pretentious". Those are the words I usually hear from people who are into 'cancel' culture, taking-out-of-context deduction, negative biases and the black & white mentality. The kind of people who doesn't go for the whole picture and dissect every angle, but just comes for what ticks their righteousness off, what is presented to them at face value. Because reflecting back, they will never see themselves doing anything wrong, after all, they don't see themselves in the same situation.

In the real world, I usually get to the root cause and what lead them to do what they did, not changing the fact that what they did was wrong. Dissecting helps learning than just saying "that's wrong" without context.

People like the story, get over it amd readd a manga you actually like and stop being a piss baby about it

Well people hate Naru, so get over it and stop commenting on those people's topics & trying to justify naru's actions when your points aren't convincing. I mean, you can't possibly expect people not to get pissed off when you comment stuff like "you guys don't understand" as if you're above others..
Get off your high horse. People can read whatever they want and have a right to complain if a story is lacking and doesn't meet the expectations of others.