Am I the only one with a super bad feeling about YuYang going home? Ever since all his roommates went home that one time and he was left alone in the dorm (right before he and LiHuan went on their movie date), I've had a feeling he's not on great terms with his parents, and this chapter basically confirmed that for me. He's clearly been avoiding talking to his mum; YuYang didn't even ask Dabai if he could take the call, he basically just said "you know the drill" and Dabai went "yeah ok". I'm thinking his parents, probably his dad specifically, don't approve of him being gay, and that he's probably going to get berated when he goes back to see them. I don't think he'll ask LiHuan to come with him though; I've seen a few comments speculating about that. Because they aren't actually together at this point, I don't really see any merit in YuYang doing that. I actually think YuYang'll come back to uni upset/angry/frustrated, and LiHuan will obviously notice and try to comfort him. Idk I could be entirely wrong, but that's my prediction and I'm S C A R E D
Its gotta be the 'homophobic parents trying to convert YuYang' type. Pretty sure she's gonna introduce someone to YuYang. Or just tell him about how bad of a son he is...and he is going to ruin their family..and if he has siblings...why did he turn out different?? Kinda stuff.
I'm more worried about the little girl. I feel that she's going to be the really dense invasive stalker kinda fan who will pursue LiHuan until no end and basically try to come between the two.
I actually have a feeling she's not interested in LiHuan. Idk maybe I'm just being optimistic, but she didn't seem that interested in him when she was standing with XiaoYi watching him walk away. Dabai's girlfriend keeps getting brought up too, so I was thinking she might possibly be his girlfriend. But I 100% agree about what his mum's gonna do. I'm just not ready to see him get upset T-T
DJun just posted on Twitter that there'll be no new chapter tomorrow and I could honestly cry ╥﹏╥
huh??? WHY!?
From what I gather, I think all it was was that she hasn't finished drawing this week's chapter (I'm not entirely sure though - this is based off a quick translation I did of something she posted on the site she publishes Here U Are on and I am by no means very good at Chinese)
Ahh I see, thanks for the info sweetie ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
I just, I love YuYang so much. He was so in love with Lin Xiang; he cares so much about him. You could physically see how much hurt he was, but he still tried to play it cool, like it didn’t matter that much to him even though in reality he was dead serious, just so that Lin Xiang wouldn’t worry, because Lin Xiang is 100% the type of person to worry about hurting his friends and YuYang knows that.
Ahhhhh that flashback KILLED ME YuYang deserves all the happiness in the world he is such a wonderfully written character and I would give my life to protect him
Ok but I love Here U Are’s comment section it’s legit the chillest thing ever
I just, I can’t get over that close up of LiHuan’s eyes after YuYang told him to keep the jacket on omfg. I’ve legit been thinking about it for at least 5hrs now because he’s so in love with YuYang and he doesn’t even entirely realise it yet and I just love them both so much
Guys, I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure this movie they’re going to watch is the sequel to the one Lin Xiang and Yu Xiao Guang went and saw in Guang Xiang, which means Lin Xiang and Yu Xiao Guang will probably be there.
UM! IM NOT READY!
Yes please I am ready bring it on please please please!
Ahhhhh I’m so happy to see YuYang genuinely smiling again omg~~~
And I mean, it’s disappointing that he thinks the kiss was a dream but LiHuan didn’t mention anything about it (probably because he knows YuYang likes Lin Xiang and doesn’t want to complicate things) so, I mean, I get but COME ON YUYANG MY CHILD! Also do you guys think LiHuan said that YuYang hit him to give reason for his bruises without YuYang knowing that he got into a fight with the 3 assholes? Because idk I just can’t see LiHuan saying it to make YuYang feel more guilty for something he didn’t even do
Yo guys I was just skimming through the raws of chapter 38 (because I’m so anxious for this next chapter I was like “hey, why do we have a look at the raws even though I can’t read Chinese”) and LiHuan is wearing something ENTIRELY different at the end of the chapter than he is in this Mangago version. In the raws, he has a black jumper and a cap on, but he has a white jumper and no cap in the Mangago (and Mangadex) version. Anyone know what’s happening there?
Gimme the link I wanna see (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
yaa i saw the raws to why is it like that anyidea
How odd. Did the author maybe reupload after the english translation was made, changing his hoodie to black and drawing a cap .....
Geez that's true. Why did the author decide to change LiHuan's outfit?? ┗( T﹏T )┛
Probably because the first comment after the chapter, with 4500+ likes, is that they are wearing "lovers' matching outfits", and it could mean that they are showing up as a couple (the comment is from the day it was first published). Another person commented that it could be the university uniform.
I guess that DJun wanted to get rid of this kinds of doubts ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Ahhh....thanks for clarifying!!! ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
Ahhh well that would make sense, yeah. Thanks Cappy!
Hoo boy so the comments have blown up about LiHuan saying he's not gay, so I just wanted to add my own two cents. I personally think LiHuan is demi-pansexual; you don't have to be gay to like someone of the same gender. LiHuan is also still very new to the whole liking someone thing. Djun's made it very clear that LiHuan has never really had friends, let alone someone he could develop a crush on, and if he really is demi, that makes even more sense, since he never had a connection strong enough with someone for those feelings to develop until now with YuYang. I think people also need to realise that we still have at least a good 40 chapters to go before the story finishes; Djun might chose to give LiHuan a label yet, we don't know. I wasn't surprised that LiHuan said he wasn't gay. He's never thought about things like that before; he's never been in a situation where he's had to think about them and, figuring out your sexuality doesn't usually happen overnight (or at least that's how it was for me personally), so I feel like it would have been more unrealistic if LiHuan started to work out that he was falling for YuYang and then suddenly went "yep, i'm gay" and was totally cool with it. And even if LiHuan never gets a label, does it really matter? Some people don't like sexuality labels, and they just like certain people or certain genders because that's what they like, and I think that would make sense for LiHuan's very earnest and straightforward character. And for the people complaining about the 'already-bent straight' comment in the little extra, character-introduction chapter we got a little while back, Djun likes to joke around and I can understand why that's got people annoyed but I think you're taking it a little too seriously. I think you also need to consider that straight is often considered a kind of default for sexuality I guess, and until someone comes out, they are more often than not considered to be straight, and while I think this is wrong as well that's just how things have been up until this point in the world, but hopefully that mindset is beginning to change
The author labelled him as straight, instead of bisexual, hence the accusations of biphobia
Ok no need to come up with tumblr words to describe sexuality. Nobody needs stupid vocab to understand that some people like others AFTER they've known them. It not magic. AND nobody needs the word pansexual either; people fall in love with people PERIOD You guys dont want to be labeled yet label every single category within a category.
Ok no need to come up with tumblr words to describe sexuality. Nobody needs stupid vocab to understand that some people like others AFTER they've known them. It not magic. AND nobody needs the word pansexual either; people fall in love with people PERIOD You guys dont want to be labeled yet label every single category within a category.
'He likes him for him regardless of his gender", mate that makes him bisexual, calling him tumblr trends like demisexual or pansexual doesn't change this, and if the author doesn't even account for bisexuality how the hell are they going to be aware of some modern tumblr trend that people who are generally still kids use.
Where's the evidence for that?
Read the Q&A whatever chapter that was on. The author also used a homophobic slur.
Idkwhy you're directing this comment towards me as I'm not the one who decided to use those tumblr words to describe his sexuality
- There is also the context of authors using the homophobic/biphobic trope of "You are the only man I've loved therefore I'm still straight". The author is promoting the view that sexuality is a choice, which in the country of origin has led to people being abused by gay conversion therapy or marrying people of the opposite sex to try and be straight. Or in the case of this webtoon for a specific example, Yuyang's orientation isn't respected by his female friend, who tries to hit on him. These are just tropes that wouldn't cut it in more progressive countries media and society. Lihaun should have been defined as bisexual if the author didn't want to label him as gay, not straight.
Chapter 45.5. The author promotes homophobia by using the slur "bent", calling Yuyang "wife" simply because he is presumed to be the bottom rather than saying husband, as two men being husbands shock horror, they also said Lihaun was straight, and showed that if he never met Yuyang he would be married to a woman by age 28. Read the actual webtoon yourself instead of posting the same question over and over again.
Stop throwing around the words homophobic/biphobic like its halloween candy. Honestly maybe a handful of people think deeply like you that the author is "promoting" that sexuality is a choice, which isnt really directly harmful except when it comes to gay conversion therapy but in today's world, MOST wouldn't do that and even if they do, a few words in a comic isnt going to change it. Change is only going to happen in a very slow pace within a society.
That still doesn't point out how its biphobic
BTW majority of the population in the whole world is straight. You didn't think that was a coincidence right? It makes sense biologically and evolutionary wise. Just because the author wrote things like "wife" or he would marry a girl isn't fucking bi or homophobic. So the author is to blame cuz he named his character straight...HIS character and used some words jokingly or with no harm
you're annoying as shit LMAOOOOO just because he would get married to a woman doesn't determine his sexuality. yall ever heard of,,,,, being bisexual ??/????
You don't call your man "wife" just because you can't deal with husband & husband.
Correct me if i'm wrong but I think you're referring to this chapter and this page: http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/here_u_are/uu/d_v-1-chapter-45.5/pg-6/
where does it say that he's straight ????? if I have the wrong chapter please look for it and tell me instead of spreading rumors
Tell the fucking author that, seeing as they never labelled him bisexual, they labelled him straight dear.
YOUR WORDS: "hey also said Lihaun was straight, and showed that if he never met Yuyang he would be married to a woman by age 28"
Don't fucking act like you're not promoting this false idea dude lmfaooo
We can be frustrated with Djun for being ambigous with Lihuan's sexuality but that doesn't mean yall can call out readers for predicting his sexuality based on his behaviors. It makes sense that he's bisexual or pansexual. What, yall are really gonna say Lihuan doesn't like Yuyang? FUNNY
my condolences goes out to Hazey Jnr for trying to give out her two cents in a mature manner and instead receiving these annoying ass people that wanna pussy out and stay anonymous
OR we just don't have accounts and never bothered to make one? HMMM never thought of that
And can you even blame anyone in this context? Anybody that says otherwise to the LGBT community, they'll come after us like serial killers determined to shut anyone up and ruin their life over a few words they said EVEN if what they said had logic and wasn't at all offensive in the objective view.
And can you even blame them in this context? If you have any opinion, no matter how logical or reasonable, that differs from the LGBT's community, they attack you.
bruh i'm not even gay and i still side with the LGBT because I do believe sexuality is a spectrum. I also believe that the majority of those are straight but that don't mean Lihuan is one of them. i say controversial shit all the time and i still get more mature and receptive comments than you do
Did you actually read the chapter?
What? The author is the one at fault for calling him straight, being heteronormative "husband & wife" and using the biphobic "I only have loved you so I'm still straight" . People in the comments are rightly stating that the author should have identified him as bisexual, but he didn't.
You just sound like some cocky commenter who flexes that he/she's got an account and is therefore above others who don't and happen to make controversial comments. Sorry your highness, I have not seen the controversial comments you have made that have been very well received. That still doesn't nullify my point: that some who have "controversial" opinions get attacked sometimes. More than I do? Is that supposed to make others feel jealous or feel worse for not using an account or whatnot? Nobody cares if you're gay or not or why you agree with LGBT and I have not said anything about majority being straight and relating that to why or if Lihuan is straight, it was to point out that not everything is homophobic such as the scene where Lihuan in the future marries a woman. Its expected because a majority of people are straight, not to mention the author portrays and states Lihuan as straight.
So you aren't actually LGBT yourself but are one of those tumblr woke "allys" that are actually rather homophobic, seeing as you are finding zero issue with how lgbt is being represented so poorly. A man isn't a "wife" not legally or socially, in China same-sex marriage is illegal and acceptance of such is far off. The author calling the outright gay character by a female term, rather than legitimising that husband & husband is an everyday reality elsewhere is ridiculous. Using a slur to describe someone was just uneeded. Ditto that the author is not representing bisexuality, but is falling into the homophobic cliche of "your the only guy I've loved so I'm still straight". Lot's of yaoi authors promote homophobia, so it's not like he's the only one to have made such slip ups , just that this comic seems to have staunch defenders of how fantastic, how woke it is, when really it's the same in terms of negatives like many others comics on here. Having the "interfering" women characters who are either homophobic "I won't respect you are gay, you can still be straight" or fujoshi's who treat the MC's relationship as something they view as entertainment or can involve themselves in, is so predictable.
Took a look at some of your topics and didn't really see many so called controversial comments you made. The ones you made weren't controversial at all and coincidentally aligned with a majority of people's opinions. So I don't think you understand at all what others think before they say something actually controversial or considered sensitive and in fact just claim to be better than others based soley on the fact that you have an account and call others pussys just for making comments as anonymous. You're type to literally call anonymous people's opinions as non legitimate or without having any logic/reason/credibility JUST because they're anonymous.
Bruh, i never even stated that Djun wasn't being homophobic in that chapter, you just assumed that LOOOOL. I do agree that he was being homophobic. I'm talking about an entirely different conversation.
I make a lot of controversial topics on Love is an Illusion and BJ Alex
Don't know the context of your topics, but those two webtoons are heavily criticised for poor plot development, poor character development and the use of treating rape and other such abuses comically and victim blaming. This webtoon has issues such as supporting homophobic and biphobic tropes, seriously dragging the plot, and having ridiculous female characters that have no place in a more mature plot like that "runs wit her eyes closed fujoshi so she can injure her ship and force part 2 of her ship to collide with part 1". Yet why is this webtoon so coddled by fans, when likely this webtoon if released outside of Asia, in countries which do have equal rights and a more representative, less offensive representation of people who are gay and bisexual would be met with scathing reviews.
Woah jesus apologies I didn't expect this to blow up. First off, idk who said it but pan and bi are different things, and I'm not gonna lie, I'm a little offended pan and demi were called purely "tumblr terms" because bullshit. I'm demi-bisexual, and I assure you, pan and demi are both very real things. Secondly, I think everyone has every right to be a but upset that LiHuan's sexuality hasn't be outright stated, but I can almost guarantee the "already-bent straight" and "wife" comments were both jokes. Obviously you're allowed to find those comments offensive and distasteful, but I don't think calling Djun homophobic for them is exactly mature. Djun has already showed to be able to handle sexuality very well and delicately in the story on multiple occasions, and the fact that Djun is so passionate about their work and spreading LGBT+ fiction proves that they are certainly not homophobic. I do think we also have to take into account Djun's context as well, being a BL manhua artist in China. I think that makes it a bit more difficult for Djun to be more specific because I can't imagine deeper LGBT+ knowledge being hugely widespread (I could be wrong though). But I really do have faith that they'll reveal what they had in mind for LiHuan's sexuality, and honestly, even if they don't, I don't really see how that's a huge issue. Like, yes, I would love for LiHuan's sexuality to be specifically confirmed as well, but I think focusing on that is missing the point of the entire story.
In regards to JianYi and Xia Wang Wang, JianYi deluded herself into hoping YuYang could like her, and I don't think that's unreasonable. She never forced herself onto him in any way, shape or form, and when he turned her down, yes she was heartbroken (obviously, because she liked him) but she was so good about it. Xia Wang Wang is a comic relief character, and she's trying to be friendly and helpful, because she wants LiHuan and YuYang to get together. Yes, she seems to be a fujoshi, but she hasn't done anything bad; people interfere with relationships and try and play matchmaker with people all the time, it just so happens that in this particular case LiHuan and YuYang are both guys. And she's not forcing them to do anything; enthusiastically encouraging LiHuan to let her help, yes, but LiHuan hasn't told her to fuck off and mind her own business or anything like that, and she's only approached him, what, 3 times I think over a presumably reasonable amount of time. It's not like she's constantly hounding him to let her help. I think she's quite a cute character, and LiHuan just turned around and said yeah please help basically, because this is all new to him and he doesn't know what he's doing. If YuYang ends up questioning everything because he sees them together or something though, that'll piss me off as well, but Djun hasn't failed me yet so I'm holding out hope.
Idk if I missed anything in this, but guys please be respectful to each other. I don't care if you hound on me or whatever since I started this (I'd prefer you not to but I was the catalyst so I'll take what comes), and please, by all means, voice your concerns and opinions, but there is a right and wrong way to do that, and crapping all over other people and what they think isn't the way to go.
I don’t know why you’re taking the time to explain to me these things when I never said a word about them LOL. You’re just wasting your breath my man.
I was arguing something completely different but I think you got me mixed up with the other Anon who claimed Djun wasn’t being biphobic and such. I think what Djun commented was homophobic but that doesn’t mean the man himself is, they are just joking terms. If you’re getting offended by those types of things— knowing Djun’s active LGBT elements in the story then it, ironicaly, makes you the fuss tumblr social justice warrior that tries to politically correct everything.
Regardless if Love is an Illusion and Bj Alex are “conroversial” comics, they are still we renound in the BL genre and on Lezhin. So, if a person were to speak negatively about them(which I have before) then you would receive backlash. Plain and simple.
Okay its already been 2 days and i’m over this lmaooo this is so irrelevant. This may be my last comment on this thread:
1. Lihuan is demisexual/pansexual (only a deduction)
2. Djun isn’t homophobic yall are just sensitive
Just because you think you're demi-bisexual doesn't mean its real. Your're basically taking an attribute that most people have a putting it under demisexual. Its not a sexuality; that's just describing the way you "fall in love" or develop attraction for somebody, which no one gives a fuck about. If you're pansexual then, you're just bisexual because there are only 2 genders. There's simply no need for such words because its 1) pretty damn useless and 2) pretty damn UNNECESSARY. Like do you need to tell someone that? Is that how you introduce yourself? Hi I'm demi-bisexual and that's all my identity is about. Anyway I don't think his sexuality is that important. Its just another minor minor aspect of the story.
That doesnt make any sense. Just because you spoke "negatively" of a renown comic doesnt make it controversial at all. Do you know what controversial means?
Firstly, I don't see how the way I chose to identify myself and my sexuality affects you. Demi and pan are certainly not useless and unnecessary terms and I think the fact that you're calling them such shows that you only know maybe the bare minimum of both. And hell, even if they were both deemed fundamentally unnecessary, I still don't see why you'd care whether people use them or not. Why does it matter? People should be able to use whatever terms they feel best describe how they feel. And no, I tend to drop the 'demi' when I tell people I'm bisexual, because 1. a lot of people either don't know the term or just don't understand it 2. its an additional piece of information that, yes, most people don't really care about in situations where I'd be coming out to them. Does that make it irrelevant and redundant? No, because it still explains something for me that I spent a long time trying to work out, even if I don't share it with others.
Demi and pan are very real, very seperate things. Honestly though, I don't care if you can't understand either of them; they're both difficult to explain in words even if you are demi and/or pan so I get that. But I think the least you can do is stop invalidating them and take them as they are regardless.
that comment wasn't even aimed at you I don't know why you decided to stick yourself in that conversation lmfao. it just shows you're trying to spread negativity like you always are
How is that spreading negativity? Its literally asking you a question. Like I always am? You act like you've seen all my comments before.
Forgive me if I'm wrong but you seem to just be out for me. Always calling me negative as if its a bad thing and that you're not "negative" yourself. Hypocrite much?
This aint even relevant anymore bruh have a good rest of your night
All the comments I see you post are negative. It’s honestly sad.
Because its more interesting to critique something than to praise it? Just because my posts are negative doesn't mean I'm spreading negativity. It seems you confuse disliking with negativity. That's definitely not the case.
BTW you clearly haven't seen all my comments then.