Lol why'd they have to throw this super modern stuff into the story, mixing modern elements into medieval time settings is cool, I liked how they implemented cameras but y know suddenly they're at place with LED signs and clubs and american culture?!?! Wtf. And she's dressing like a 2015 emo? This is so weird, I hate this, it's so unnecessary
I feel you man
Rashta had an awful life. She was a slave that had a baby with her masters son and was separated not only from him but also their baby, they made her think it died.
She ran away and was rescued by the most powerful person in the country that offered a way out of her miserable life and slavery and loved her. How could she deny him?? Everyone in her position would've done the same. Even of she didn't want him, you can't say mo to the fucking emperor.
She's very dumb and naive, yes. She truly doesn't understand how her actions hurt Navier, and she sincerely wanted to be friends. Now she's being manipulated into believing that she has to become the empress to survive.
She has a baby to protect. She's scared she and her baby will end up on the streets, she's even being threatened with her other baby. They're withholding her own child and nobody has the tiniest shred of empathy for her?!?!
Goddamn Sovieshu doesn't even love her, he just wants someone who'll admire him and can be manipulated. He wants to use her as a breeding machine, basically toss her out after she's done the service of giving him an heir.
Y'all even attack her for being a commoner, like wtf are you??? You're just being heartless assholes that love hating women. Sovieshu is getting hate too but faaaar less than this poor girl is. I feel so sorry for her, I hope her baby daddy takes her and runs away with her and the emperor is left all alone. Only he, Roteschu and Revetti deserve hate. Yes, Revetti. She's cute but also bullied a slave. Oh, Kosher as well, not as much but he's not nice. He's hot but he tried to have a woman lose her baby. Y'all really are something else
We are not attacking for being a commoner we are attacking because shes willfully hiding her past and trying to disrupt people lives and marriages, if she just wanted to live under the majesty protection she could, she has his favor and could have learned court etiquette and become a real concubine and people would still gossip but they would have come to like her. YOU CAN BE A FORMER SLAVE AND REALIXE THAT TO SURVIVE IN THIS NEW ENVIRONMENT YOU WILL HAVE TO CHANGE. She just wants the easy way out, but insists on her being Empress and having a royal child. Shes not being forced into anything.
Bro.. we're attacking her because all she does is deceive exactly why all of us favor villainess. You expect me to support her after she came out of nowhere, destroyed a marriage, is trying her best to bring down our beautiful empress, not only is she lying about her past, and that she had a child. Hunny got her head up her ass. Thinking she's better than the empress. All she has done, is ruin other people to try to crawl her way up.
Yesss thank you for saying that! Who cares if she was a slave, it's about wrecking other peoples lives. If she wanted to live a quiet life she could. She has the interest of the emperor and even if he didn't like her, he wouldn't let the mother of his child starve. Her position would always be secured and she would at least live as well as any other noble woman. But Rashta is getting greedy. She might be manipulated, however she herself also has her faults. Her constant cry for attention, blatant ignorance of Naviers dislike towards her(she can obviously grab the concept of discontent). Oh and the way she talks in third person is annoying. Also we can't forget that she is a character that is made to be hated. Is she getting too much hate in comparison to Sovieshu? Yes, probably. Does that make her any better? Hell nah. She is a good "villain" Character though.
Has believable motives with actions that have a reason, something that is dear to them etc.
Bruh I think people need to get their facts right. I haven't read the novel but from what I hv read in this manga I can tell this much that it was the emperor who found her not the other way around. And u tell me, if u were a slave in the past, led a miserable life, got abandoned, didn't know where ur kid disappeared to, suddenly had a emperor come to you saying he will give you a secure life. Who is gonna deny it. Enough if she has
to ruin someone else's home she would still choose to secure her own life duh like she has already suffered enough. Then the stupid creepy old man comes and manipulates her and the Duke adds fuel to the fire. How on earth can u blame her for anything. Initially she wasn't doing much until the old man got involved and threatened her making her insecured abt her position...
There have been a few times where the emperor has asked her to open up to him if anyone was picking on her or threatening her. Each time she has played it off. She should have told the emperor. He already had his suspicions and seemed more than ready to help her out. Even now after finding out her secret on his own he is planning to turn the country upside down just to protect her and the baby inside of her.
So it is hard to feel sorry for her when she sleeps next to someone who could make all her problems dissapear.
Yeah but does she knows that.. No. Because she is insecured. She doesn't trust him completely. She has been abandoned once so u can't expect her to trust him completely because just as much she hides things from the emperor, he does too so... ╮(￣▽￣)╭
THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SO TRUE!!!!!!!!!!! It's not even about being a homewrecker, I absolutely give zero shits about that, I don't want Navier and that asshole Sovieshitsu to ever be together anyway, the truth is if all Trashta wanted was security and freedom from her former life as a slave all she had to do is keep her head down as a concubine, if she left Navier alone Navier would have left her alone, she and the asshole keep forcing Navier to interact with her and she tried to call them SISTERS, EW. Navier does the bare minimum and when she does talk to her she is respectful. WHY DOES SHE KEEP TRYING TO INTERRACT AND PUSH HER OUT??? WHY DOES SHE LITERALLY STRAIGHT UP COPY HER? SHE LIES SO EASILY. KOSIER DID NOT TOUCH HER, HE WASNT TRYING TO HURT THE KID. She does not follow proper ettiquette, does not show the empress respect and she is an idiot to an extent BUT BRUH SHE TOOK DOWN DUCHESS TUANIA, she isn't a complete dumbass (though her interactions with Navier say otherwise, why would you call her a sister and not address her as an empress and think you both are equals???)
Thank you thank you thank you
A sane person that has empathy
You are aware that she's not Navier and doesn't know her intentions? She thought Navier and her could become friends, which is stupid but she didn't have ill intentions. Those came when Roteschu blackmailed her and he and the Ergy guy manipulated her into thinking the empress wants her out and that she and the baby are not safe until she becomes empress.
Why she's acting that way to Navier? That's what I mean about y'all attacking her bc shesa commoner. She's never learned etiquette. She doesn't know better. She copies her since to her Navier has everything she wants. That's not true but it's what she believes.
I wasn't talking about Kosher pushing her but about him feeding her abortion pills. I'm pretty sure it was revealed he was the culprit
She is insecure because she is trying too hard to be like the empress. She could easily coast as a concubine, especially now since she is pregnant. Hell, she could save up all the jewels he gives her to pawn off later and live a decent life.
The man came to her and asked her if someone was threatening her. He said that he would banish them. He is the damn emperor, he can do a lot more than some noble's son to protect her. She gets real bold and loves to jump out of her lane when it comes to the empress. But now she's too meek to act? Where is that boldness now?
She doesn't want him to find out about the child. She's scared that if she tells him he'll find out. And yes, she could live that way. But what is a stupid uneducated girl that is being blackmailed supposed to believe when the people around her tell her that she has to become the empress to be safe?? She obv hasvto believe it
I kinda think her lack of ill intentions at the start made it worse? Girl...you are the second woman. No matter the class level that sort of relationship is gonna be tense. That shouldn't take etiquette classes to understand. If she was the concubine of a noble she'd be getting shit from the legal wife. If she was some merchant's side chick, if the wife found out she'd get shit. Even between commoners it would be looked down on. How could she not know that?
Like lets say it was the Count that she had sex with instead of the Count's son. If the Count's wife found out she'd get in trouble, slave or not. And I'm sure she knows that, unless she is just that dumb.
I think her and Navier could have worked something out if Rashita had cooled it from the beginning. But she just kept pushing. Kept trying to force the woman whos husband she's fucking to accept her. As well as tried to flaunt her pregnancy. At that point the intentions are very ill.
I can give her a pass on Ergy because he is being very crafty. She is falling right into his trap. But Roteschu she should have tossed out as soon as she got pregnant. That baby is her meal ticket(ignoring spoilers about the baby). Especially since the Empress hasn't had a child. The emperor already forced Roteshu to recant his statement about her being a slave. And Roteschu isn't allowed to just travel as he likes in and out of the palace. He already has to sneak just to see Rashita all because of the emperor. So she already has a strong ally. She just dosn't want to use it.
whoops meant to dislike
Define safe? She really could just ride it out and collect money and trinkets until the emperor is bored with her. She doesn't have to stay there forever, just long enough to get a good footing/money.
Also, it doesn't seem like she was ever pretending to be a virgin or something. She could easily play it off as if she didn't feel like she could turn down the Count's son. She's already lying, and He is likely to believe her anyway. So even if the count's son claims they were in love she can refute it.
She can't act naïve and also have the wherewithal to bring Duchess Tuania down, there is no way in hell she was stupid enough to think that the empress would want to be friends with her when she literally became a concubine, and as a slave she would have to have known the etiquette on how to behave around someone of a higher status, and the chapter after Koshar shouted at her, when the emperor visited her while she was in bed, she could read the situation, she lied until it was clear the emperor wasn't believing what she said and then she denied that she didn't say weird shit to the empress, she was smart enough to infer such facial expressions and the implications of what would happen had the emperor found out, if she can understand this then why can she not understand Navier doesn't want to interact with her, and just because you feel small and insecure and think someone is the ideal person you want to be doesn't mean it is ok for you to completely copy them, what she did with the letter was pretty well planned as well, if Heinley didn't know it was the empress who was the pen pal everyone would have believed her, and the time she orchestrated that they wear the same dress and that she would arrive first to undermine Navier and humiliate her while gaining sympathy from the public doesn't seem naive or stupid, so if you think that she is just some innocent servant girl who is being manipulated into doing random shit and doesn't know what situation or how other people would feel, you are wrong, she has responsibility to her actions, in the end she decided to do all of those things and they were all calculated too, and not badly calculated either, she isn't a bad person and she certainly isn't as idiotic as the emperor, she's in a tough situation but she is still manipulative to a certain extent, she is just trying to survive but not all she has done is to survive, some of it is to undermine and gain more footing, which she doesn't need to do since she is already a concubine, so yeah, she has done some weird and despicable shit but she isn't just a damsel in distress and she has more logic in her than the emperor has had in his head his entire life. So, she has to take responsibility for her actions. I hope she makes it out safe with her two kids and can care for them safely and securely without that piece of shit emperor. But I am still on Navier's side regardless of it all.
That was beautifully written. Hell yeah does Rashta know Navier doesn't like her. Also, Imagine having lived in a household as a slave where most people hate you. After experiencing that wouldn't you know when someone just doesn't want to interact with you? And yeah, she is being manipulated etc I give her that but that does not excuse ALL her misdeeds and that's what y'all are NOT getting. I wish no ill to her children and I actually hope she can live together with them but nobody should ignore that she has done wrong. Anyway y'all have a nice day whatever you might be thinking, oh and f_ck Sovieshu, the greater evil and idiot of this story oml he disgusting
Idc, Yuliana is fucking hot. I love her. All the women in this are super pretty but Yuliana and Cecile are too much. I'm simping for them
Gotta agree, hate her character but love her design. Her long straight dark hair + dark eyes give her a total femme fatale look and I’m digging it
Yeah right. I'm sapphic for femme fatales. Sapphic in general but for femme fatales even more. Yuliana is a pretty bitch so I hope she gets redeemed or some shit so we can look at her longer hahahhaha
Sapphic culture
I'm glad Lippe saved Yulian. Not everyone would've gad the heart to save a future serial killer. She however recognized that he's a good person at heart who's a victim of his circumstances. I hope that makes y'all realize to look at people twice before judging them and that killing criminals ain't okay since they can repent and become good people.
I'm at ch51 and I'm really weirded out. I like Calliope but it's so uncomfortable to see a 5-year old have romantic moments with 12-year olds. Also, why's she called Lippe? Her name is Calliope and Callippe. And when did she suddenly get so long hair. Out of the blue her hair was super long. And I can't stand Lucius being like "stay away from my 5 year old sister I don't want you to seduce her" like wtf are u even thinking. Sibling protectiveness is on thing, thinking your twelve yearvold friend is interested in your baby sister is another.
You said her name is Callippe right? Well, here is the reason Callippe when you delete "Ca" from name BOOM it becomes Lippe, hope you understand now!
Her name is NOT Callippe. Her name is Calliope. It would be Liope not Lippe.
My bad, there was misunderstanding between our opinions because you wrote "Her name is Calliope and Callippe" again, sorry
Ah, i meant calliope and not callippe. My bad
Its okay! It was my bad too after all (⌒ ▽⌒)
Lippe Is a fun nickname ^_^
Is there romance for the MC?
Yes in the sequel.
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/koi_dano_ai_dano/
When finally someone made her realize she's not a bystander anymore.
I thought I'd give this a shot despite the age gap but wtf you're telling me I should not feel uncomfortable seeing her memories when she was TEN and fell in love with this old man?! Bye bye
Ugh, Cecile is a fucking goddess. I'm so gay for her
I meant to hit like wtf , same i absolutely love Cecile
That panel with her as the emperor.... ughhh my heart was beating so fast