Can anyone tell me the difference between the mature version season 1 and scanlated one?
mature version has more spicier scenes while scanlated is r15. but it don't make much difference cos theyve only made out a lil bit in s1&2. it did get friskier in the mature version in 1 ir 2 instances but thats about it.
Where was the cold & independent woman of the previous timeline? Did her brain cells degrade?
What's the relationship of Taejoo and Yoon? Are they biologically related??
no they aren't biologically related, they have different mothers entirely and yoon's mom cheated on her husband (taejoos dad's) with his brother but his dads "brother" isn't biologically related to his dad so neither parents have any relation to taejoo, yoon's dad is just someone taejoos grandfather took in after the death of yoon's dads parents and so thus raise him and taejoos dad side by side; which is probably how he encountered yoon's mom and then the affair began (inevitably conceiving yoon) - Hope that wasn't too confusing （/TДT)/ took me a minute to grasp too
Thanks, after reading everything I'm still also confused. lol
Yoon's biological mom is taejoos step mom
Yoon's biological dad is taejoos dads adopted "brother"
hope that is way easier to understand
Why is the official translation of Planche - Plants. Lmao
IYKYK. As a slave, Eckles entire existence and wellbeing depends of the approval of his master. His right to live, food, shelter, clothing, etc. All of it is based on Penelope's whim. If she happens to be in a bad mood one day and tells her father to kill him, that's it for him without a second thought. If she decides to rape him, he is not even allowed to express displeasure.
A slave cannot betray his master by definition, since there is no room for the concept of loyalty in this dynamic. There is only property and ownership. I repeat, there is no such thing as a slave "betraying" his master.
Therefore, it really bugs me when I see people rag on him, as it feels like they don't fully understand the implications and horrors of his situation. If the series were written in his perspective, Penny would be 100% the bad guy and we would hate her. Despite Penelope's struggles, she is still allowed to exercise her own free will. Eckles does not even have that right.
He does not get to petition for his freedom. The only ways he can be free are if he kills Penny and her entire estate, he dies, or he escapes. Penelope could have given his freedom back at any point, but the thought never even crosses her mind. She has no right to be angry at him for anything. So fuck her and fuck any manga/manhwa that tries to downplay the horror of slavery.
by the end of the novel I was like
screw Penelope she didn't deserve her happy ending
any happy ending created by sacrificing another person's future does not deserve to be happy
u know whenever I read anything related to death is the only ending for the villainess
every time I think why the hell did I read that it makes me so angry because of the injustice and then I see her defenders here .. I finished the novel.. I couldn't stop and now I regret it with every fiber of my body
things wouldn't be this bad .. if only I didn't read that.. this is why I steer clear of sister I am the queen in this life.. I read severe controversy I just decided that reading that and see everyone cheer for fl won't be good for my mental health
I just can't see unfair treatment maybe it's my fault for taking fictional stories too seriously
but I am glad someone else thinks similarly
one more thing
I ALSO HATE PENELOPE DEFENDERS
nothing personal against you.. but I would definitely dislike the way they use " she thought eclise was a game character "
like.. bro when do you see a isekai story and everyone fl and readers included just sees everything as game character s and are we just supposed to forgive all the mistreatment
I mean how she is different from Derrick? HOW? WHERE?
I think nothing other than being mc...
I'm pretty sure in the novel there was some POV of him. (Sorry it's been a while I dropped this after s1 finished and I read the novel) It was something along the lines of how he knew everything she said to him was a lie. Like she didn't care for him at all cause her eyes showed her true emotions.
I totally agree that she didn't deserve a happy ending. Reading the novel was suppperr disappointing T-T
Did you read the story because Penelope gave him the option to leave if he wanted to? (it's in chapters 55-56) She gave him the ring saying if he wanted to leave he could but he chose to stay, so is it her fault? Throughout the story, she had been protecting him from her family and the other knights. If he wanted to do anything she would give it to him. Him being her slave was probably the best thing although I'm not happy he's a slave but we can't do anything about it. Also since he was at a slave auction, he could've had a worse master than Penelope. I suggest you read the story again.
You mean when she's emotionally manipulating him again so that he won't hold her responsible for his situation? This is a common tactic abusers use because they know the abused won't leave or will just come back. She even said so herself that even if he accepted her offer, she suspected he would just stick to her anyway. If she truly wanted to free him, she would've just done it without the theatrics.
penelope is literally supposed to be a villain. shes not some saint. even during her trial she says “i’ll show you that the biggest villain in this game… is me.” i won’t defend her, but she’s a villain. why would you read a villain plot if you were not okay with morally grey acts? she also did want to give him the ring - because in the book she says that she wants eclis to be with her “by his own will” but he pushed it back on with force that hurt her.
people are defending her because she’s not supposed to be a saint or anything, she’s desperate to survive and was using any means to do so.
I understand what you are sayin but during the time she was" manipulating" she already knew she wanted him she was trying to get him on her side so that he wouldn't kill her. Nothing she has done is consider being an abuser. You also need to take account that she’s also scared of him she’s been doing all that so he doesn’t kill her. She saw the way he easily killed people. If he wasn't a slave you wouldn't have been saying that, if he was a free person you would think she's a nice person. Also didn't Eckles stalk and tried to kidnap Penelope too, how is that not considered something bad?
Do I expect Penelope to be a nice person? No. But I do expect her to not actively participate in violating human rights, aka slave ownership, and being a shitty owner on top of it. She would treat a dog better than Eckles.
He didn't take it cause it's the same as how abused spouses could leave their partners, but they don't because they've been so thoroughly manipulated and/or don't feel like they could make it on their own.
Imagine you were him and you accepted the offer, what is next? It may be that you continue to be hunted down and/or oppressed again just to be sold off to another noble house that treats you even worse than this one. Or you could stick with this shady lady who's sometimes nice to you and won't execute you just for looking at her wrong.
And you're right. Her treatment of Eckles doesn't make sense. She treats Derrick better, for god's sake. From a story perspective, it must be because she actually likes holding power over him after being the powerless one for so long. From a meta perspective, it's cause it's shit writing.
I like penny and i understand her circunstances and point of view and that she is never supposed to be a saintly and conventially good FL before anyone comes at me but i still find that plotline and her actions very uncomfortable to read through and how everyone very so casually dismisses it so finding that more people didn't like it either it's kinda. comforting because for the longest time i thought i was just being hypersensible.
Isn't this an abused victim's wet dream? To be able to go back and somehow change the ML due to the victim changing their self.
But its trash because where is the self respect?