Dimension Breaker

Have you ever heard of “drama”? Abuse and romanticizing abuse in a story, whatever, whoever read it and didn't like it, stop reading, simple as that, because of the hatred of people who were triggered by the story because they projected their lives into a “fantasy” the char designer is suffering unnecessary hate, people who can't separate fantasy from reality are the problem, the content is there, free for anyone to consume, anyone who doesn't want to, just leave your opinion and stop reading, and if that says something about the minds of the people who liked it or not, it's nobody's business, stop bothering with other people's opinions and tastes, peace. Vanji is considering stopping publishing the story because of the hate she's getting, and she's just recovered from an illness. people are so.....hmf

Plus, I love Vanji since Winter Woods, is one of my favorites manhwas, her art is beautiful, and hurts me seeing that she is receiving this rage when she didn't even write the story, I'm really tired of internet, really, people want to shove their opinions down everyone's throats, and cancel out everyone who disagrees and so on, it's so tiresome, that's why whenever a story falls into the mainstream or doesn't please the majority I already get pessimistic.

Stories are created with the intention of making people feel emotions, be they happiness, sadness, disgust, anger, empathy, pity, there are so many books with similar themes and worse than this manhwa... I've read worse ones myself, I've suffered for the characters, and that's it, I don't project my life at all.

Just chill, people...

Tf? , i get that this is a fictional story and i wholeheartedly agree that the author can write whatever they please, but to a degree it does reflect the real world. as other people have mentioned, if this happened in real life it'd be sexual assault which is not a light matter in any situation. i think it's a valid thing for a reader to become upset and disappointed over, and i think disregarding the severity of it by saying this is just fictional is ignorant and disrespectful.

1 - "but to a degree it does reflect the real world"

“real world” who cares? I personally don't give a damn what the world thinks, I want to read a manhwa with a heavy drama content, period.

I know that many women have suffered and are suffering from abusive relationships, there are countless stories about abusive relationships out there, including the yaoi genre, the point is, I don't care, as a reader, I would even like to learn from this type of story about patterns of abusive people, and avoid things like that in the real world, it's useful in a way.

2 - "as other people have mentioned, if this happened in real life it'd be sexual assault which is not a light matter in any situation"

You're right, I agree with that, it's not a light topic, it's heavy, it's sad, it's agonizing, I didn't say it wasn't, or treat this subject itself (abuse) as something futile, don't mix things up... the futile thing is, it's just a manhwa, a story, it's not based on real facts, but it's about things that happen, as a person I feel the discomfort, and I want to know where this is going, even though I know from a spoiler that in the end they end up together, I would like to know how it came to this conclusion, if there was character development, redemption, I would like to draw my own conclusions about the story.

3 - "i think it's a valid thing for a reader to become upset and disappointed over,"

I think it's also valid, and I recommend that you stop reading, and let those who are interested in diving into the sea of poopoo, dive in, when I read the first chapter I already knew that it would be another story of “mental disgrace” I particularly like intense and depressing stories (Oyasumi Punpun, Aku no hana, Solanin, Adabana etc), I cry, I feel frustrated, I feel sad, for it to work for me it has to appeal to something that reflects something of reality, I take a life lesson from all these stories. Oh and I agree that they should put a +18 and “psychological” tag on the manhwa, it will avoid a lot of confusion and frustration too.

4 - and i think disregarding the severity of it by saying this is just fictional is ignorant and disrespectful.

I disagree, I just have emotional maturity, I don't mix my life, my personal bubble, with one story among many others, and about “empathizing with people who have suffered from this type of relationship” I don't recommend that they read it, they shouldn't read it, and once again, I agree with putting a warning about sensitive subjects in the description of the manhwa on the site, it will prevent triggers from being awakened.

A few points: I don't think the author is romanticizing abuse... at least I don't see anything romantic about anything, my interest is in the behavior and actions and reactions of the characters, and their evolution, how this grotesque situation is going to end, period.

I'm not a bad character or have a deviation of character for wanting to finish reading this story, I'm not disrespecting anyone, because I'm not lying when I say that it's fantasy/fiction (based on common things that happen), it's up to people to be aware of this, and decide for themselves whether or not to continue with the story, I like to learn lessons from the stories I read, and this type of story would make me, for example, avoid and identify patterns of abusers or narcissists for example.

PEACE.

"‘Real world’ who cares?"

While fiction doesn't need to strictly reflect reality, the impact of fiction on the real world cannot be dismissed. Fictional stories, especially those involving heavy themes like abuse, shape perceptions, normalize certain behaviors, and influence societal attitudes. Romanticizing abuse can perpetuate harmful narratives, making it seem acceptable or desirable. Critiquing such portrayals isn’t about stifling creativity but about acknowledging the responsibility authors and consumers hold when engaging with sensitive topics.


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- "It's just a manhwa, a story."

While it's fictional, stories have power. They evoke empathy, shape values, and contribute to cultural norms. Saying "it's just a story" disregards the emotional and psychological impact media can have. When abuse is framed as romantic or acceptable in fiction, it can desensitize audiences to its real-world consequences. Criticizing harmful narratives is about understanding their broader implications, not attacking personal taste.


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- "I like intense and depressing stories for life lessons."

There’s nothing inherently wrong with enjoying stories that explore heavy or dark themes. However, the concern arises when abuse is portrayed without accountability, redemption, or a critical lens. If a story doesn’t acknowledge the harm caused by abusive behaviors and instead romanticizes or excuses them, it risks reinforcing toxic dynamics as acceptable or even ideal. Learning from stories is valid, but the framing of such themes matters greatly.


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- "Stop reading if you don’t like it."

Critiquing a story is not the same as hating it or demanding its removal. Engaging in discourse about problematic elements helps create awareness and fosters better media literacy. Suggesting people "just stop reading" ignores the importance of these conversations and silences valid concerns about the potential harm of such portrayals.


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- "The author isn't romanticizing abuse."

Romanticization can be subtle, often lying in how abusive actions are framed or how the abuser is redeemed without genuine accountability. If the story normalizes abusive behaviors as acceptable in the context of love or frames them as desirable traits, it’s romanticizing abuse. Critiquing this is about calling attention to how these portrayals can perpetuate toxic ideals, not about policing individual preferences.


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- "People should have emotional maturity and separate fiction from reality."

Emotional maturity also means recognizing the impact media has on individuals and society. While it’s true that individuals bear responsibility for how they engage with content, creators and consumers alike share a responsibility to consider the ethical implications of their work and its reception. This is especially important for stories dealing with sensitive subjects like abuse.


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- "Warnings and tags would solve the problem."

Tags and warnings are a good start but don’t address the root issue of how abuse is depicted. Adding a warning doesn’t absolve a story from critique if it mishandles sensitive themes. Addressing how these themes are framed and their potential influence on readers is a necessary part of engaging critically with media.

Peace.

1 - I understand your point, but it's up to people to be aware of it, if people have a tendency to let themselves be influenced by everything they're exposed to, that person is an idiot, the FL in this story is clearly psychologically and physically abused, who in their right mind is going to see that as acceptable or desirable? Are u calling people dumb in this point? Oh ok... "the char is pretty, it can mask the seriousness of the issue"... dude... c'mon... just no, this is so juvenile, AGAIN, I agree that they should put a +18 and “psychological” tag on the manhwa, it will avoid a lot of confusion and frustration AND kidos reading and thinking that the behaviour of the characters are ACCEPTABLE and desirable. if all stories were filtered to be acceptable and enjoyable and not influence people (children) to make the wrong decisions in life, I think that would be censorship... Stories that cause discomfort and awaken a critical sense in people are NECESSARY, if a person reads a story like this and finds certain attitudes desirable... that person isn't right in the head, or isn't reading properly... it's none of my business either, it's their problem.

2 - GREAT, CRITICIZE IT people, but... don't try to censor this type of content, because it will never cease to exist, if that were the case, the lolita book would be burned, crime and punishment would be burned, and anyway... there are so many “Influences” for “evil” in the world...

3 - "without accountability, redemption, or a critical lens." dude, I haven't read the whole story, I'd like to, to analyze these points you mention, and draw my own conclusions about it, but I agree with you, but this thing that “has to be acceptable to society” this Disney thing, that everything is nice and well explained and fixed and anyway... it's not a rule, don't expect all stories to be like that, not every ending will please everyone, or be happy and pleasant, like the life of a princess and a prince...

4 - I Agree with you, but that's not what's going on right now, people are demanding and attacking the artist VanJi, they're comparing her characters to real life pedophile figures, and demanding that they stop publishing it, she released a note on her naver page, apologizing for giving people this discomfort, like ???????, they're not criticisms anymore, they're people who are spewing gratuitous hatred, and making people who are only there to draw feel bad about their work, THAT'S WHAT IRRES ME. when I say “stop reading” I'm referring to people who raise their flag of hatred by calling artists bad characters...

5 - "If the story normalizes abusive behaviors" but the story isn't romanticizing anything, from what I've read so far it's showing the monologues of both main characters, what they think and how they view their own attitudes and the ways they deal with their emotions... that was MY perception, now if someone is romanticizing it and finding it beautiful and wonderful... well... I think we have a lack of critical sense coming from that person, that doesn't make the author a villain even, the people who are dumb.

6 - "Emotional maturity also means recognizing the impact media has on individuals and society." Dude... it's kind of funny (and even cute) how you take it so seriously ... I agree with you about this media thing, but society is so screwed up, they don't even want to read books anymore, people are losing their critical sense, so you suggest that the problem be solved by just publishing disney stories then? I suggest they get off social media and live their lives, read books and develop a critical sense. People don't need everything chewed up, what's right or wrong, they have to draw their own conclusions about what's around them, of course, in a way that is morally and ethically accepted by society, this is part of life, part of personal, emotional, intellectual, character development and many other things...

7 - Ok, but I think the representation of abuse in this story is pretty clear and blatant. Criticism should always exist, but so far, I don’t see an incorrect approach to what’s happening. As for the 'potential influence on readers,' honestly, I couldn’t care less about how other readers are being influenced. But I’m an optimist and hope they’re realizing this isn’t a Disney story.

That said, I’ll end this discussion from my side here. Clearly, we have differing opinions on certain aspects, and that’s okay. People are different. I loved the discussion—it’s constructive. Thank you!

brief correction to point 5, its normalizing* not “romanticizing”.

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- "It's up to people to be aware of it, and if someone is influenced, they’re an idiot."

While personal responsibility is important, it’s overly simplistic to call people “idiots” for being influenced. Media has a profound psychological impact on individuals, consciously or subconsciously. It’s not about censorship but about creators acknowledging this influence and taking care with how sensitive topics are portrayed. Many people consume media passively, and while critical thinking should be encouraged, stories still need accountability in how they handle complex subjects.


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- "Criticize, but don’t try to censor or attack the creator."

I fully agree that criticism should not devolve into harassment or personal attacks on creators. Constructive criticism, however, is vital to holding creators accountable for their portrayal of sensitive themes. Critiquing doesn’t equate to demanding censorship; it’s about engaging in meaningful discourse to improve media representation. Harassment is never justified, but that doesn’t invalidate concerns about a story’s content.


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- "Not all stories need accountability or redemption—it’s not Disney."

Absolutely, not all stories need a "Disney" ending. However, stories that tackle sensitive themes like abuse should still handle them with care, even if the ending is grim or unresolved. The issue arises when abuse is romanticized, excused, or presented as acceptable behavior, which sends harmful messages. Accountability doesn’t mean everything is fixed in the story—it means the narrative acknowledges the gravity of the actions and their consequences.


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- "People should draw their own conclusions and develop critical thinking."

While I agree that fostering critical thinking is essential, not everyone has the tools or maturity to do so, especially younger or impressionable readers. Stories carry the potential to educate or mislead, depending on how they’re framed. If a narrative unintentionally encourages harmful perceptions, it’s fair to critique that—not to censor it, but to prompt better awareness and discussions.


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- "I don’t see normalization or incorrect representation."

Your interpretation of the story may differ from others', but that’s exactly why discussions like this matter. It’s not always about what the author intended—it’s about how the audience perceives and interprets the content. If a significant portion of readers feel the story is romanticizing abuse, it’s worth examining how the narrative might unintentionally contribute to that perception.


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Thank you for engaging in this discussion with me—it’s been thought-provoking, and I genuinely appreciate hearing your perspective. While we may not fully agree, I think we both recognize the importance of constructive dialogue around these topics. My main concern has always been about the potential impact media can have and ensuring that sensitive themes like abuse are handled responsibly. I respect your stance and hope discussions like this can encourage more nuanced storytelling and critical engagement with media. Take care!

Go find another hobby. This content ain’t for you.

Majority of the contents in your library or reading list contains trauma and abuse plots or themes. From my POV, you like it. Yet here you are with your fake outrage. What a joke

Then you probably shouldn't read, the readers k what fiction n reality is. We read it doesn't mn we accept these thing in rl. Y'ALL keep on crying abt how toxic this manhwa is yet Y'ALL keep on coming bck to bitch agn. Just keave it no.

You sure are retarded. You can like shit stories like these and acknowledge it as toxic but there are others here probably like you who romanticizes it and accept it as a good romance. Yuck

I've no problem with problematic stories as long as those problems are addressed/are portrayed as wrong. (and I'd say it is a talent to address the wrong as wrong without actually talking about it.) but this story is just disgusting.

some might disagree but I lost some respect for the artist after this. I love their drawing and the stories they did in past but this story ruined it.

Shut your stupld ass up and your mom is retarded. Condemning a story for toxic plots when majority of the contents you read contains toxic plot, What your c*nt ass is displaying here is hypocrisy. But your iq is too low to comprehend. There are some genres and plots I don’t like, I stand strong by my convictions and avoid any contents with those theme/plots. Your iq must be in the single digits clown.

Then your IQ is in the negative retarded bitch ass whore. Go kill yourself. I dont have toxic stories in my library. Bet you are already disowned dumbfuck.

Hahaha, we comeback. I must have stuck a nerve for you to tell me to ki11 myself. Yes you are definitely retarded with low iq. Your comments proves it. Go touch some grass bitch. You are irrelevant and not worth my time. Why read toxic stories if you despise it?? Y’all bitches weird on this site

@VitaminC This negative IQ retard still doesn't get it. (Even blocked me) lmao
How are we supposed to know he rapes and abuse her when this shit of a story doesn't even have Mature tag and not rated 18+. The comments were the only give away. Dumbass bitch. Guess you really can't differenciate the original poster and my username. Lmao

I guess the other comment is true, you can't even differenciate my own account and their own. You make yourself even more of a fool.