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Istg every time I see that cheating bastard vestian I feel like strangling him. The audacity he had to cheat on and scam my goddess Shannanet and also calling her plain saying his mistress was much prettier like he had a fucking death wish. His end was very much satisfying but I low-key wish the author killed him off.
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I honestly don’t get why some people don’t like the duke tbh I love his PERSONALITY which he has him being a deredere softie is a breath of fresh air after all those annoying tsundere Male leads we’ve had. I also think that their personality’s match eachother since our mc is more of a badass . I honestly don’t get the emperors hype he’s soo fucking annoying. @ the people who actually like the prick just say you want a toxic relationship,no need to justify a ship that would most definitely sink.
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Though I’m sad that the manwha isn’t going to be continued I’m glad I read the novel, which I would 100% recommend it was soo good probably one of the best knovels I’ve read. Sadly, we won’t get to see her revenge and Sian redemption which I was looking forward to the most. Reading the novel made me hate, love, and pity him. Without spoilers I’d say their relationship in the first timeline was the right person, wrong time, So I’m glad they got their happy ending after all they went through.
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I just finished the up to date chapters of the novel and I came here to rant about how Ms. Kim Roah gay baited us with those fluffy scenes of Clarivan and Gallahan for them to not end up together. Istg she had the whole comment section shipping them and decided to not make my otp canon. We still have hope since she’s on hiatus and will continue the side stories In August, so us gallavan shippers have our fingers crossed.
Plus that cliffhanger on side story 10 was deadly .
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It’s always kill all men till that old hag gives yall fan service/ fuck Claude that pretty privilege is not going to make me forget what he did.
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Have you not been reading the manwha? He was under a spell that did allow him to have any emotions to anyone, including Athy. And in the last chapter they showed their first meeting which was way before their actual first meeting and so on, which helped him regain his feelings back. It's true that he did the bare minimum but remember this he has not shown any feelings or emotions to anyone in a long time so he can't just change over night.
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You didn't even fucking read the manhwa and you're talking shit about Claude lmao don't make me laugh. He did black magic on himself cuz he couldn't handle Diana dying and killed his emotions. His feelings changed in the second life because he met Athy before the black magic had fully effected him. You can literally see in the past 2 chapters how happy he was when he found out Diana was pregnant.
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No, he did the black magic after athy was born,which was why he didn't care. Honestly, the only reason why he probably cared for jeanette was because of some meddling by the previous emperor. ALTHO, yes i agree that curse or no curse, his actions as a father towards athy in the first life will never be excusable.
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Love how you just ignore the reasons why Claude did all of that and immediately bitch on him. Although his actions cannot be justified that doesn't give you the reason to harass him like this. By the time he killed Athy, his connection with Jennette was already 10 times stronger than when they first met, of course he would defend her more than Athy. He doesn't wanna meet Athy because that will only remind him of Diana's death, the only ounce of love he had ever met and felt since his brother left and betrayed him when he was a kid. Claude is not a saint but that doesn't mean he is not a victim of his own past either. Did you even read this manhwa's plot properly? Oh wait, you don't cause you're too dull and ignorant to understand.
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I just love the fact that you say his actions can’t be justified but you continue to excuse them , the reason why I dislike the man is because he had better options other than neglecting and hating his child for no valid reason. Don’t come at me with the “He had black magic on him”. The man still neglected and treated his child poorly before the black magic and all. He literally had no right letting his sperm out and refusing to take responsibility for it , Diana’s death was a reason but it should be used as justification . He was being selfish since he wasn’t the only one who lost someone Athy lost her freaking mother but her dad who was supposed to help her go through it was too stuck up to see through his pain. You can like the guy but indirectly justifying his mistakes are just wrong. I really don’t care about your opinion since it’s not going to make me like the guy anyways.
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I literally said he is not a saint, I meant that he is also a victim here. You can't blame him a hundred percent, he has his own reason. What I'm trying to say is, you gotta sympathize with him, he wouldn't become like this if it's not because of his past. The only person you care about here is Athy, I love Athy but that doesn't change the fact that other characters feelings matter too.
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Ig you forgot that villains can be victims too. I ALSO love how you only see Claude as a bad father but not trying to sympathize with him even ONCE. Pretty or not, he is both a villain and a victim. I also don't care about your opinion, I only state what I wanna say. You can dislike him but that doesn't mean you can just ignore the pain that he has to go through. That's what I meant, if you still believe in your own opinion than whatever floats your boat man.
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It’s not that I blame him 100% I just find it annoying when the fans portray him as this perfect father figure and praise him for doing things that should obviously be done where as there’re other fathers who deserve way more hype than him . I just don’t like him being the standard of an ideal father just because he redeemed himself.
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Did you seriously not read the manhwa?? He was happy to have a daughter he was going to take responsibility ffs just read the lat 3 chapters. He had black magic on as soon Diana died in both lives, the magic takes 7 years to complete, in the second life Athy met him by accident when she was 6 so the magic hadn't been completed yet and Claude still remembered her. None of your reasons make sense
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Oh and another thing, you're not in his shoes so what do you know about him? He is a bad father, is that the only thing you see in him? You forgot he's a victim of abuse until he finally become an emperor? I also got mad when he tried to kill Athy at her coming of age ceremony, but ONLY that. I hate his evil actions, but that doesn't give me the rights to forget the effort he made to reconcile with Athy again along with his past. If you can only see the negative in people without caring about their background and life experience, you will only become an ignorant person who cannot be in peace because they don't have any ounce of sympathy in their mindset. I'm justifying his actions? Pft, no I'm just seeing the good in people and analyze their character development and reasons on why they become like this so that I won't villainies someone solely on their present self.
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We call him perfect because he is now PERFECT in the present life. In previous he was emotionless and neglectful, we are all aware of that. You need to understand twice when someone said something so that you wouldn't misinterpreted what they meant. As you see, from the bottom of his heart, he genuinely loves Athy to the point that he will even sacrifice himself.
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I’m currently on chapter 2 and I low-key don’t understand her or people who kin her ,how can you still love someone after them putting you through all that shit, I’d honestly be disgusted and I’ll hate them I understand why she didn’t leave but I can’t comprehend why she still loves him is that some type of psychological trait or something if someone knows more about this pls explain
Why does he low-key look like the older version of Arthur from tbate
Ch 15 pg10
No wayyyyy! HE ACTUALLY DOES