idk where the TJ fans atttt...ain't none wrong with Jo but he's just not who I want Ian to be withhhh
this was honestly not that good.
A mid all cuz the ongoing catch and let also whole stupid shit that happened to chang il were too much it
I agree
way to make it obvious that's he's not gonna show up
I love when they swallow and don't care cause a real freak gone swallow
What if instead of Mad Dog it was
Freak dog and instead of being mad all the time, they freaked
I feel like a lot of yall are so stuck on them getting better or finding a solution but i kind of like it like this. Not everything going to have a happy ending and im not glorifying it or anything but people stay together for worse in real life I don't know I just wouldn't go into this, or continue reading this hoping they somehow change their ways. The toxicity makes it interesting. I've read soooo much yaoi over the years and it's not uncommon to see some back and forth crazy shit then they end up fr liking each other. I think they just trauma bonding at this point, like licking each others wounds type shit
As someone who is invested into this because I relate strongly to the premise, a deeply traumatised person dating another deeply traumatised person, both of us having different demons, I really hope they do get better. I say this out of a hope for traumatised people like myself and my partner, as we are typically seen as broken and unable to be stable and happy. Let alone being gay as well.
I do see the value and interest in having the story stay toxic because realistically it does happen, I also feel like its such a grim message to gay traumatised people who seek love comfort and stability.
Luckily, in my relationship it’s been the most stable and healthy relationship of my life, and despite the struggles both he and I face, I have healed immensely and pushed to get better for him. We never have argued, we have had discussions where we disagree, but we respect our differences on those rare matters. Generally we have the same sentiments and opinions despite being very different in taste, personality, and approach to life. We are polar opposites in some ways, but our relationship feels even deeper than love. It’s not like we just enjoy eachothers company, its like “this is the only person who understands me, this is my other half. My soulmate, my happiness embodied”.
And I think it’s because we understand the pain eachother has gone through to an extent others can not reach.
Long ass reply, I apologise. But truly, I hope they get better, just from my personal bias.
very beautifully said!!
I've been over the whole "debt" trope lately but I feel like this one got some substance to it ...let's see how it go.
TJ and Jo really are one and the same yall gotta start getting that. Still team TJ though idgaf
more like yin and yang, there’s a little good in tj and there’s a litte bad in jo. the difference is that jo never physically or mentally harm ian, can’t say the same for tj
being team TJ when he mentally and physically torments ian is crazy work girl
When did TJ hurt Ian he literally made a mistake /once/, tried to apologize and Ian didn't even let him. And Jo literally just SAed Ian??
no i’m not gonna defend jo for cumming on ian’s face when he’s unconscious that’s fucking weird but he never physically and mentally hurt ian and listen to what he says. your stupid ass can’t even see tj has been hurting ian PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY FOR 16 YEARS he broke his leg and prevent him from achieving his dream! put him in prison for two years and gave ian huge ass debt cause he don’t want ian to make clean money paid him off and run away from him he made ian go back to deliver drug when he KNEW how traumatized ian was with drugs. he keep “accidentally” hurt ian, slapped him once as well cause he was caught up in the moment
TJ did indirectly hurt Ian even if he didn’t mean it. When I watch their “communication” it feels like both of them or mostly Ian is on edge and anxious, he’s always feeling negative around TJ, wondering if something would happen etc, TJ going away, etc. they never try to talk it out properly. and the rest of what the other person replied to you.
It's 19 years I'm pretty sure. And they've been hurting each other mentally all this time. That's literally their relationship, they're codependent, they're not consciously doing it to harm each other tho. They're doing push and pull with each other. And I literally just mentioned the leg. That's the one and only physical harm. The debt, yeah that's true. That's probably the worst one for me but each part of the backstory makes TJ's motivations clearer so I'm kind of hoping for it to be explained better. He "KNEW" because he was the one to get him out of this, to his own detriment. While "he don’t want ian to [...] run away from him" is part of TJ's reasoning, Ian either would never run away or he would do it /for/ TJ. "That'll be enough time for him, too", "I knew everyone I love eventually becomes miserable", "Asking "why don't you go abroad..." what a useless question" with TJ's smile as the background, always answering "When are you leaving?" with "I'm not sure", "Is this what I really wanted?" .
And "slapped him once as well cause he was caught up in the moment" what... Ian literally got between TJ's hand and Yangji. You watch too many movies if you think it's easy to suddenly stop your hand when you're already swinging. TJ was /shocked/. And Ian slapped TJ soon after for being an ass.
Them being on edge, anxious and scared is because they care for each other and have shitty circumstances. I get that it's not healthy, but it's also not TJ's fault. They don't talk about things properly, the both of them. And when TJ tried, Ian always shut him out.
And you can't go " i’m not gonna defend jo" after saying "jo never physically or mentally harm ian"... He literally just did. And it wasn't done indirectly, didn't accidentally get out of hand, wasn't motivated by fear of losing him and trauma and he didn't even try to apologize. As for the mental harm we're yet to see it because Ian is oblivious but I'm pretty sure we will.