Abel✯lied April 18, 2024 3:32 pm

Idk man, I support women's rights and women's wrongs

Ok, ok, to expand on that, I find it difficult to dislike her. We, as the readers, are familiar with romance manga tropes and shoujo manga tropes, so our FL isn't really that strange to us. Fls are usually pretty naive in shoujo manga, even if it's not actually their character trait and just a plot device.

That's not the case here however, our protagonist is an extremely naive (even for a noble) shut off girl and the story constantly acknowledges it. And now, she finds herself in a place, where people can only survive by scheming and plotting.

Imagine this: You've spent most of your life in what is basically a brothel. Here, you are not a person, you are a merchandise. Everyday there are men coming and going trying to own you and your only choice is to stay valuable enough that no one can afford you. Your beauty comes with a time limit and with it does the power that gives you your freedom.

In the middle of this, a noble naive girl comes in, that (as far as you know) has been living in paradise all her life. She's effortlessly beautiful, yet she's surrounded by men who'd respect her no, and protect her anyway. She comes to you and asks you, to sell yourself, so that she can go back to her nice life as a noble. You make your living entertaining men, who'd buy your body if they could and have to listen to her demurely talking about her first love. And she wants you, to stick out her neck for her?


!!!HER, ASKING SATOKO TO HAVE SEX ISN'T WRONG OF HER, because Satoko basically told her the same thing. Satoko asked her to let herself be bought out (be forced to have sex) without thinking through what it'd imply, which makes sense, because this simply isn't Satoko's world. Satoko is kindhearted, but she's still a noble. Kissing the man she wants to marry is outrageous, but asking another woman to sell herself is not.

    Nokame April 18, 2024 5:05 pm

    I agree... I get Sakoto's side, but ita super selfish to ask this of someone. I'd be pissed too, and whats up with that guy? Are they romantically involved? Looks one sided that love turned to hate thing seemed to have happened

    rottenoniku April 18, 2024 5:29 pm

    Please a little louder to the people in the back ┗( T﹏T )┛

    your nanny April 19, 2024 4:56 pm

    You explained it perfectly, I was pretty conflicted about it since Asagiri just burned Satoko's important paper bc of that old man, but ever since Satoko entered the brothel she felt so selfish to me, like, she's nice but she's willing to go home at the cost of others and not even feel guilty or realize it...

    Ahgase April 19, 2024 6:20 pm

    What she said:

    Yall, we can still hate ppl even if they are complex characters. You all really be attacking ppl over how they feel. Kinda sounds similar to many cough*conservatives* to just name one. And honestly, me to, Idc how complex she is, right now she is annoying and it's okay to hate. I don't have to bring her whole character to judge her on the actions she's doing right now. That's why even if I disagreed I leave ppl alone or explain, but it seems the same level of peace or patience can not be said for yall. This is honestly the first time I've seen a comment section so hateful towards the readers.

    Bye now

    your nanny April 19, 2024 7:41 pm
    What she said:Yall, we can still hate ppl even if they are complex characters. You all really be attacking ppl over how they feel. Kinda sounds similar to many cough*conservatives* to just name one. And honestl... Ahgase

    Wait, this comment replys?? I thought it was pretty calm...

    Abel✯lied April 20, 2024 1:50 pm
    What she said:Yall, we can still hate ppl even if they are complex characters. You all really be attacking ppl over how they feel. Kinda sounds similar to many cough*conservatives* to just name one. And honestl... Ahgase

    Hey, I did see your comment and others like it, but nowhere did I attack you or others for your viewpoint. In fact, I didn't write this comment for/ because of you, I wrote it, because I enjoy this manga and I enjoy talking about it. I didn't mention anyone and the comment section was full of people disliking this character at the time of commenting, so this is a bit absurd to me.

    With that said, some opinions are more valid than others."The Great Gatsby is about how the rich are better at partying, than the poor" and "The Great Gatsby is about how being upper class means, that you're connections or moral character will inevitably deteriorate and will never be genuine for as long as you are in that space" are both technically true, but one is more valid than the other.

    I actually don't mind the comments disliking her at all. I don't think that the author did such a great job with her, that someone interpreting her differently is foolish. Plus, this story is ongoing. She could kick a puppy in the next chapter and alas, I'd be totally wrong about her character. Your comment is, however extremely annoying.

    Comparing me to "a conservative" for *having a nuanced take on a fictional female character from a manga* is insane. Ignoring that those guys are usually those, who only want female characters to be an eye-candy, did you even think about what you said? That I'm the sort of person who wants to criminalize trans and gay people, for what, liking a character you don't like?

    Dislike all the characters in the world if you like, I have no issue with that, but maybe don't call people names for no reason. Because that is what you did, call me names (i.e. attacked me lol) for commenting my feelings.

    I'm not going to call you a conservative or anything else, because that's silly, as I can't deduce anything about your character from this short comment, and also, because I think forcing you to sit through this long ass comment is enough of a punishment for anyone haha

Abel✯lied April 14, 2024 8:26 pm

Idk I think it'd fix him, if they explored each other's bodies

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    Abel✯lied April 14, 2024 3:47 pm

    Jk jk, I just think she's really cool

Abel✯lied April 10, 2024 10:20 pm

I don't really understand the criticism to be honest. It's one thing, even in a middle of a tame wholesome romance a ml starts being abusive for no reason, or when a story about BDSM doesn't understand the rules of BDSM, but this doesn't claim to be any of that. I think it's like picking up a revenge manga and complaining, that the mc didn't go to the police haha.

After rereading it, it seems apparent, that the dynamic is "a tame, but secretly masochistic guy meets violent (but not sadistic), but secretly lovey-dovey guy" (sidenote: if there's any doubt about whether or not the mc is an actual masochist or slowly became one, reread the first chapter. The introduction explicitly states, that he started to seek the violence out). It's a story about how these characters develop and yeah, if he were real, he'd be an abusive ass in the first series, but he's not. You're not going to get interesting stories, if you demand moral purity out of all the main characters.

I really like that we get to see them grow together as people and the story wouldn't be nearly as good without the violent start. I also like how despite the wild premise, the story feels very grounded in it's world. Our main characters have worries outside of their romance. They're all adults and they feel like it!

To sum up:
S1- About them getting together. It's violent and dark, but it evolves into something resembling a partnership

S2- About them growing together. They realize, what they thought they wanted was completely different from what they actually wanted. Relapse of violence, which they swear off afterwards.They find support within one another.

S3- Discussing licking buttholes with the bros

Abel✯lied March 8, 2024 5:23 pm

"There's something I need your approval for."
He needs her to of approve him asking her dad for a hand in marriage

    _laurenolo_ March 9, 2024 11:00 pm

    hahaha i was JUST about to comment this!!!!

Abel✯lied March 6, 2024 5:06 pm

I sort of miss the older, less detailed art style. It's technically prettier now, but Dorothy just looks so cute and childish. She's a person that's lived an entire life already. She's a person capable of great cruelty. She's not some innocent heroine, that should blush at every moment.

    Meli March 12, 2024 9:30 pm

    Girl
    She went back in time. That’s why she’s childish because she’s literally a child.
    She’s gonna eventually grow and become a woman stop being an idiot

    Meli March 12, 2024 9:32 pm

    The reason she’s “blushing” it every moment - it’s because she has severe guilt and she doesn’t really know how to react because she’s literally been a tyrant that kills people be fr - they’re not making her childlike and fetishizing her. They’re simply just trying to express her emotion in the proper way - children aren’t necessarily extremely serious and angry, because they were once in empress be fr bruh

Abel✯lied March 3, 2024 7:34 pm

EVERYONE WHO FINISHES THIS CHAPTER!!! Can you please tell me if she wins or at least puts up a fair fight??!?!! My heart can't bear the stress to read it without knowing before hand!!!

    Eyeyey March 3, 2024 7:46 pm

    So far she’s fighting alright. She landed a hit on him and only has a shoulder slash. At the end of the chapter she revealed her weapon

    Abel✯lied March 3, 2024 7:47 pm
    So far she’s fighting alright. She landed a hit on him and only has a shoulder slash. At the end of the chapter she revealed her weapon Eyeyey

    Thank you my hero

Abel✯lied February 28, 2024 4:16 am

I LOVE YOU DOROTHY AAAAAAAAAAA
Best parts of this story:
The themes of love and being unlovable
Relationship between Ray and Dorothy (legit cried at "I'm here to kill to Ray")
Relationship between Dorothy and her knight (Uh oh the kid you picked up is suicidal)
Ethan is a little freak (affectionate)
DOROTHY DOROTHY DOROTHY DOROTHY she just wants to do what's right
They're are parts I dislike, but I binged it and I have to go to school in like twenty minutes

Abel✯lied February 27, 2024 7:30 pm

This monologue really shed a new light on our protagonist. No matter what she chooses, it is to serve someone. To make someone else happy. While everyone is trying to kill her, sell her off or possess her, she doesn't for once think, that it is unfair. In her eyes, the problem is not that people are using her, but that she's not useful enough to be used by everyone. I hope that maybe Shinpei will show her how to be more selfish, instead of just being happy that she's his

    ⊱♡⊰ February 28, 2024 5:04 am

    Couldn't have said it better myself it's truly sad I wish I could hug her. I really hope by the end of the manga she's able to see herself in a better light.

Abel✯lied February 26, 2024 10:33 pm

Not sure how I feel about the the genocide whale people, but I really like the story and the art so far!

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