I DONT LIKE the mc on how apathetic he is bc even tho they have the same family issues but the mc has someone (his uncle) and the enviorment that give him a hope and support him to overcome his issues. While the kid has no one he can depend to (well the kid has his cousin's husband (?) That seems genuienly concern of him, but i guess the way he react he himself struggling), and i hate when the mc said the bullying is a bareable thing to do (when u already have so much burden with unbareable guilty looking at ur mom and u have to suck it up with a burden of bullying and threath at school is definetly can cause mentally distrub).
No one in any shape of form can still have healthy spirit and mental if they put in such a situation (i was bullied and my friend has a divorced parents with financial problem, ive grown with panic and anxeity disorder with suciadal thoughts, while my friend have grown with bipolar disorder).
When the ML explain type of person who r gonna grow up such apethetic, it suits the mc the most (well not "literaly the most" cus he did have lil emptahy but zero consideration of others). And when one of his employe (orange hair) said "not anyone can be like u", i really hoping the mc has charather development and be more considered of others feeling, especially the kid. But 44 chapter still his thoughts of the kid dont change (well change lil bit cus of the kid's mom).
But i do like him lil bit cus somehow he is such a inspirasing monotone person but still his charather flaws annoyed me.
Anyway i understand the mc the way he is, i mean he himself a self made sucssesful and build himself up, and if someone try to commit suicied in front of my car, i'd be pissed. But still it is ignorance as hell to yell at someone else's hardship and distress to suck it up and swallow, it just i hope he more considered at choosing words to someone (not fully kind like a angle but just not causing someone hurt or distateful in the feeling) and he can be cold, wit, and cautious but still the words his said shouldnt be unecessaraly hurtful.
Like not people pleasing like the ML, i guess he lost himself up or his guard down to be kind enough in his teammates and with his ex that he got betrayed by them and ex
I kinda agree with you but I can tell the author gave him that trait to make his character more realistic. There are, after all, plenty real life people with "suck it up" attitude just like him. Specially in the yaoi genre where ukes usually tend to be very soft hearted, empathetic, emotional and sensitive. I guess they wanted to do something different. He has his flaws but maybe by the end of it, he'll realise and come around!
some nuances get lost in translation just to pop in and say that for some context as to why the dialogue comes off like that
This is why I like story like this the main character is not like other generic character out there that is always kind and angel like being, I like it when characters has some nuance in their morals and along the way I'll able to witness their development not just the plot but their characters, and I think the author won't fuck this up (cuz I think it's already finished and I haven't seen negative feedback regarding the mc) .
Anyways I hope you and your friend are doing alright and in a safe and loving environment
This can also be a factor, I wish I could read and understand Korean cuz there are words or phrases that will lost some context or meaning in English on what it's originally intended
I kinda agree with u but also disagree. I think he's like that cause of the environment he was raised i, his personality and age. Take siblings as an example, u and ur sibling can be born in the same family, same house, same environment but still have different personalites. You might be the type of person who is independent and can face problems without help but that doesnt mean ur sibling can do the same. On the flip side, ur sibling feels more emotionally and cares more of others while u urself have very little care of what people think and is emotionally stunded. Also i kinda understand why hee chan still cant emphasize that much to the kid.When u went through enough shit u start to lose ur sense of emphaty, its still there but its conditioned to certain types of people. Ive personally can relate to hee chan on this one, i was abused emotionally by my family too much that at one point in my life i couldnt care what happen to someone especially my family but the more futher away that person's relationship was to me, i cared just a little bit more since they kinda had no dealings to what happen to me.
Yeah u r right, some translation can get lost in the context and come out of as rude.
Thank you, me and her still try our best to get profesional help. and i do like the mc it just something he said triggered me and annoyed me but the story itself is still enjoyable and im hoping to see his charater development
This is just the phycology nerd in me and i really like how on point someone like the ml may act in this type of situation. Tho the fact that he is starting to understand the kids side of the experience is just mwah. CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT(๑•ㅂ•)و✧
What shocking me the most that "the sibling" is like my lil sister (5 years apart), we both grow up with abusive parents too she grew more like u bc she had an experience of sexual harrasment and bullied by the boys in her school, me and her had somewhat same experience like that but she, now, become more like hee chan and u. While me becoming people pleaser and like i mentioned before. So yeah i understand but then thats what me and my lil sister always fight bc sometimes bc shes more logical person, she literarly like hee chan and she said she doesnt wanna live the way i live, it hurts but that is what i push her to bc i indeed dont want her to become like me.
My abusive parents now become old they are not they were used to be, so as i grow up i always think of a reason why they were like that and even though they were abusive they were still tried their best to give me what i want and to provied me like spoiled me to the rotten (tho.. in not the best way). So now we have love and hate relationship, my lil sis still careless bout them while i still take pity on them and try my best for them (even tho i still somehow cant take their affection and keep on cringey whenver it is)
I hope u live ur life happily and loving enviorment.
I hope ur life becomes better too. Also if ur sis might have a chance of being exactly like me, i think she just needs a one on one personal discussion with u to improve ur relationship. Im the type of person who hates beating around the bush and understand better when someone talks to me straight foward. Maybe it might work for ur sister. Only if u think it works ofc, this works for me so i cant say it wilk work for her. Good luck and take care of ur self love (づ￣ ³￣)づ
I feel sorry about you went through.
But my above line is a catch . It covers both your aspects.
See , I'm sorry about what you went through and what your friend went through and it seems after effects made it more worse.
But I'm just sorry , I can't feel your pain. Because I never went through this.
I have no gauze to measure your past sufferings.
Its not like I don't want to but I can't relate how hard I try.
Same thing happened with heechan. He's occupying kid's body ,to some extent he can understand kid's emotions but not fully , melting process is incomplete.
Heechan never went through this. How hard he try he can never get it completely. His years of being alive molded him into someone's else that is who he's right now . This thought process , morals , understanding of things is completely different.
Its like when you hear someone lost someone close in their family first thing you say is sorry , but do you really mean it ? No not me until they're very close to me , I don't feel genuinely bad , it's not like they were close to me , heck I don't even know their face.That sorry came out of instinct . You can say I'm a bit unemphatic in this regard.
I apologise I took your example , but this became an Easy thing to explain considering your past .
Hope this answered your queries a bit.
It is sad that the author before passed away belive that this manga will never get an anime adaption.. but now thank god this manga finally deserve a spotlight for an anime adaption and the anime itself is not dissapointing at all （/TДT)/
It is so well written by the pace and theres no single boring pace (≧∀≦)
No I've read that the author was aware of the adaptation she just didn't get to see it
I get caught up by the story but annoyed at the same like the plot is kinda good but the phase is terrible bruh, wtih so much unecessery gang raped so much that i have to skip 4/5 chapter until to the point that is importang, and the aurthor dragging this story too much with rape like i get it to show how awful and torturoues his life is but it still have a need for a bit characther and story development to the story like for the mc. It always the same shit happen over and over to summarize (a high end men lust over the mc, and grey hair arrange antertaiment for them and keep throwing mc to the sex abuse and protitution and raped him again after mc done with client, mc got depressed looking ml for comfort that make them relationship and consiouness be more aware. Keep repeating of regretness bc of danger that it might cause. Repaeat. Until something different happen, ml finally decided something and get crushed again by the grey hair and mc becoming cold again bc of him in danger. Back to square one AGAIN).
It woulve been better if the story focus more on the mc secretly TRYING to found any of these animal men weakness and expose them to the ground to be finally free by pertending of being a doll just like they wanted (i mean he can bc he smart enough to be numb and control his emotions to be emotionless and cold), instead of making him being A LITERARLY A RAG DOLL that keep repeating regret and wanting to go back to the past and having him a power hole who can take anyone dicks. I get that bc of his trauma that everytime being rape and drug his mind become clouded and only think of a good time to keep his sanity and keep going BUT UNTIL WHEN? He already show his will to live and change, so how come for 8 years he still want to be their doll i dont get it. And i dont get why korean BL authors are into so much angst and raped
I really dont understand something.. can anyone kindly enough explain to me whats the point of the prologue in season 1? Like is it a foreshadowing on when baek yi (kim shin that finally become the president not just a boss) finally gonna take down castle's chairman (choi min wook)? And foreshadowing someone improtant to him died just like kim dae geon situation (it's in prologue season 2)?
I mean after finishing season 1 and this recent chapters Baek yi foundation still, like compare to others, a small foundation to be in such a large of mens like in prologue
Well I think at the point of season 2 they are at the finding allies and weaknesses of their enemies and building up their standing, but in the end in the prologue it shows that it will ultimately be the two of them fighting it out. I think the point of the prologue is to show the readers that it will get to that fight eventually, but it will be a slow build up, but it will get there.
I really dont understand something.. can anyone kindly enough explain to me whats the point of the prologue? Like is it a foreshadowing on when baek yi (kim shin that finally become the president not just a boss) finally gonna take down castle's chairman (choi min wook)? And foreshadowing someone improtant to him died just like kim dae geon situation (it's in prologue season 2)?
I mean after finishing season 1 Baek yi foundation still, like compare to others, a small foundation to be in such a large of mens like in prologue
Honestly i dont mind reading fckdup stories or heavy stories like this but somehow what irritating me the most is that a constant unecesseraliy A LOT LOT LOT EVERY CHAPTER ABOUT THEM HAVE SEX OR RAPE OR GANG RAPE, to the point of getting annoying up to 100 chapter like i get it they ended up addicted to it but still its not helping with the plot or pace of the story like it can be skip and focus on their charachter development or where this story goes bc im on 100 chapter still have no idea whre this is going. Ive seen fckdup stories and i always try to find reasonable side on the characther psychology (tho lil bit hoping the story would be at least good enough) BUT THIS?? All of them fckdup especially his brother WHO SUPPOSED TO BE THE SMART AND QUICK TO NOTICE AND YET DOESNT GIVE THEM ANY SUGGESTION TO GO TO THE PSYCHOLOGICAL THERAPY OR AT THE VERY LEAST SEPERATE THEM FAR FAR AWAY FOR A WHILE OR LONG ENOUGH SO THEIR ADDICTION DONT GET WORSE??!!! AND EVEN CAN GIVE THEM A MEDICINE OR SOMETHING THAT CAN REDUCE THEIR SEXUAL URGES (idk if theres medicine like that but one medicine i know is depression drugs(?) bc it can make u feel numb to anything) BUT ANYWAY HIM BEING IN MEDICAL ENVIORMENT THAT HAS A LOT OF MEDICAL OPTIONS AND YET HE CHOSE TO CURE THEIR FCKDUP MENTAL HEALTH WITH LOVE???!!! LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHA THIS IS GARBAGE
Oh i forgot their sad backstory or trauma is not that deep to be so fckdup in the head so they all psycho and unreasonable character IF being compare to any fckdup stories ive read
Well i know sunbae is a jerk but i think its because he was straight before so he still didnt know how gay sex works ┑(￣Д ￣)┍ since uke kept saying he felt good (even tho hes in pain), but still he is no better compare to that "hyung" bc he sees uke as a "convenient" to fullfil his dick. Also that "hyung" giving me a creep vibes, if i were uke i'd ended up in asylum with that level of manipulation and spiritual shit.
Hell but the art make them look so hot (╬￣皿￣)凸
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.Yall im anxious like on the chapter 25 the seme started to remember his convo with the teacher (like the teacher explain about law and some insurance bout the killing) and then he remembered the uke said to seme that he didnt use him as insurance because his trust was broken.. like why would the uke says that (￣∇￣") what does it mean.. and then idk the uke seems jealouse when he asked is he gonna do IT with the teacher here.. IM ANXIOUS LIKE IS THE TEACHER GONNA SEDUCE HIM IN THAT HOUSE? AND THEN HV SEX AND WHAT IS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE UKE AND THE TEACHER?
I CANT THINK OF ANYTHING
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Who is the teacher???
Teacher??
I didn't understood anything.. but lol this is making me worried for the future chapters
Idk why yall saying the seme is an asshole like i mean if yall have a crush on someone for a long time then get dumped but at the same time yall get confessed ofc yall gonna be confused, like seriously having to move on after got rejected is not easy and the uke understand that since he love him for a long time too thats why he said hes not gonna give up until he opens up his heart again. Them being FWB is CONSENSUAL the uke didnt even wanted it to end since thats the only way to make them closer and the uke didnt even mind the seme using him as a comfort (╯°Д °)╯╧╧
Why everytime i read something like uke fall in love first and chased seme even after being rejected and yall saying seme is a dick (one sided relantionship to becoming mutual is not that easy (︶︿︶)＝凸 )
If the seme had accepted him to make him as a replacement to minori, that would have made him such dick but he didnt. He even told the uke to give up when he thought he cant fall in love again ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
Well the could be saying he’s a dick for an entirely different reason. Just read the other story “mimori’s naughty mouth.”
Spoiler alert if you haven’t seen it:
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He sexually harassed the person he likes in his sleep and then did it again another time
I don’t think for this manga at least it’s just the uke chasing the seme. I believe for most readers who’ve read the series that this was based off of knows. SPOILERS AHEAD
That the seme had sexually harassed and assaulted Mimori in the previous series. So the hate/dislike isn’t unfounded.
Ooh so this manga has series.. shees i didnt know that i thought it just one indvidual manga
When i was in middle school, i was once have experienced, i felt obssesed by someone younger like jonah and someone the same age as me and lemme tell u it was traumatizing and hella annoying like sometimes he peeked into my house and balantly searching for me and i blocked his number and sosmed sooo many times yet kept appering, so this story giving me ptsd but i keep going cuz i love the author's art style ┗( T﹏T )┛ and i get what chang-gil's feeling.
Thank god, thats all in the past and i already moved from my previous house 10years ago.
dear god bless your soul bc only the heavens know what i woulda done to someone if they did that to me