Did he get the same sweater in black for himself ????
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT TOO like bro certainly wants couple matching
He diddddddd yooooo
Most of you who didn’t recognized the swirl symbol, please search it, be mindful of vigilant. The author is sneaky. She implemented the symbol right when he switched into the child version while still penetrating the uke. It’s not depicting confusion. The symbol means “little boy lover”. Someone mentioned it in a group discussion of this manhwa. If y’all wanA still go ahead and read this, fine it’s up to you but I’m out. I’ve noticed pedo undertone in most bl contents lately. Most of authors are sneakily illustrating a minor and portraying them as adults. Seems like they are trying to attract a certain fanbase.
OH HELL NO WTH?! I searched it up and its literally that swirl!
thank you for sharing, honestly i hope more readers become aware of this. i mean yeah it's fiction but in this regard I have same thoughts as you. it's just bugging me the wrong way when reading stories like this...
ofc everyone can read whatevers, but yeah I'm out too
I red a similar thing on Reddit and discord. That sht is wild and real #－.－)
While I do agree that making one of the alters a child is very much pedo behavior, I think the swirls are a bit of a stretch.. the "boy lover" swirl is triangular while the one in the manwha is more like a hexagon. I say this because if it really was an attempt to signal to fellow pedophiles I think they'd be extra careful to get the symbol right. Also that symbol is from an American association meanwhile the author is Korean, wouldn't they use a Korean symbol? I'm not defending their work, but I do think it's quite a step going from they have a really weird reverse daddy kink to they are are a pedo trying to gather a pedo fanbase.
She explained it the right way. She said "Little boy lover" not just boy lover. The symbol for little boy lover is indeed more stretched which means pedophilia. I'll share you the link along with the meaning of the symbol (this ain't a virus I swear I'm an IT student) for you awareness. :> https://images.app.goo.gl/dHrK6wuKjfj54FRH8
It’s not triangle. Wish I could insert pictures here. It’s a swirl. There are two kinds. One for boy lover which is the triangle and the other is “little boy lover”. I mentioned that in the post. Please pay attention. Pedos exist worldwide not in a certain region. Some of them are lobbyists.
Wym you can't post it?
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/FBI_pedophile_symbols just post it and stop being a wuss.
If you read the description, it says "TRIANGULAR" including in the LBoy section, despite the corners being rounded like a child would scribble
Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending the author. The character said "LITERAL child" don't misconstrue it. But PLEASE don't be like these ignorant assholes who look at bhuddist symbols and say "wow they're nazis!"
If you look up "confused" or "dizzy anime face", you see this swirl in the eyes. If you look up narutomaki, it's in the ramen treat. If you look up Celtics symbols, they're there. If you are bored and spacing out, you draw it. It's in hypnotics, usually wha you see when you want to experience meth without having meth. IT'S A GALAXY AND THE MILKY WAY IS COMBINING WITH A SPIRAL GALAXY. It's LITERALLY JUST A SPIRAL.
Let me also add context:
1. 2nd mugo personality explains the 3rd personality doesn't know this shit.
2. Uke asked "wyd??" And the 3rd can't explain
3. Before that, the 3rd begs him to plays games which implies he doesn't understand the situation
People like you are how conspiracy theories start and wild assumptions get made.
Please do not call me a wuss when you lack proper comprehension, Bird Brain. I said I clearly stated in my post I can’t post Pictures, I said I can’t post Pictures on this Site. If you done proper research, you will know there are two kinds of symbols. Don’t just jump on wiki because it can be edited by anyone. You didn’t understand my main post did you. You claim you are not defending but obviously you are. You did not read to understand, you read just to argue. Just say you a pedo and go.
Go ahead and define Literal Child?
Literal- taking words in their usual or most basic sense without metaphor or allegory. Its means stating Facts in simpler terms.
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Child- a young human being below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority.
What am I misconstruing here? Is your brain working?
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That fact that you resort to using profanities me without properly conducting yourself, says a lot about you.
Don’t be an ass, conduct yourself in a respectful manner before coming for me. I’m sick of people like you who wants to argue with limited comprehension. I stated in the post there are two kinds of symbols not just the triangle.
I'm literally going to drop the manwha. I said do not misconstrue what the dude said. The work is encouraging pedophilia but DO NOT attach it to a LITERAL SPIRAL IMAGE.
You clearly didn't read that the symbols
a-- do not follow the TRIANGULAR pattern,
b-- you criticize my evidence, but the burden of evidence is on YOU since you can't seem to post a DIRECT LINK (aka the IMAGE ADDRES which clearly is not deleted on the site) to a source stating or proving your claims. At least WikiLeak provides ways to verify the picture.
C--- cannot explain the SPIRAL WHICH APPEARS IN MANY DIFFERE MEDIAS which does not look like the SWIRL which exits on the bottom. Are ALL anime/manga/manwha/Hua sources that use ANY FORM of this dizzy/confused SPIRAL PROMOTING THIS??? HELL NO.
https://archive.org/details/fbi-pedophile-symbols
Here is an archived post by the fbi.
The swirl symbol is included and it has been exposed also by previous members of NAMBLA.
The fact that the author illustrated the symbol right when the child version appeared is troubling. That’s a problem.
Speaking of anime, I guess you have not done a deep dive into anime and you should because it’s worst at exploiting children. That’s why many of us are vigilant about what we consume in entertainment.
Clearly you didn't click on the link (▰˘◡˘▰) because if you did, you'd see its the same. you're actually stupid—you told me not to trust the WikiLeak that pictures part of THAT EXACT article??? The one that hasn't been updated since 2007? At least on the WikiLeak I can copy and last the EXACT wording, the same source but on different providers:
" A variation of the BLogo is the Little Boy Lover logo (LBLogo), which also embodies a small spiral-shaped triangle within a larger triangle; however, the corners of the LBLogo are rounded to resemble a scribbling by a young child.3 Images of the BLogo and LBLogo symbols are depicted below"
Not to mention Internet Archive got hacked and released millions of passwords sometime this September, so its not as credible or secure as you think . All of your sources come from this one little article which LITERALLY tells you what it looks like, yet you want to SIMPLIFY it to a gross degree just to scare people. Fuck you.
You're one of those people who who "if you're not 100% on my side, you're 100% for it." THE WORDING ON THE DOCUMENT LITERALLY SAYS "TRIANGULAR".
"We're vigilant on about what we consume" person. You're on a website that PIRATES and SUCKS THE REVENUE from various artists and industries. Anime comes from manga, and the Japanese art style influences manwha (korean, which is what this is and the majority of stuff on your list is) and manhuas (chinese). Goddamn, you're making yourself look extremely stupid right now.
Anyways, I'm still waiting to hear how the Andromeda galaxy (spiral galaxy), celtics, hypnotics, lollipops and anywhere else a spiral is depicted are all part of NAMBA or are pedophilic.
Did you dumbass click on the FBI link I sent you or you just want to run your mouth like you got diarrhea???
If you were not so aggressive with your stupid brain and low iq you will understand that I did mentioned just for stupid people like you that is Author is being sneaky with how she implemented the symbol. The symbol comes in various forms and I also mentioned that members of the community has come out and exposed various forms of the same symbol.
How will a Jewish person feel if a stranger drew a
swastika on their home although it’s a symbol of peace, not the nazl version? Now implement this scenario with how the author depicted the symbol in the story.
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I mentioned the facts that the author implemented the symbol when the child form appeared during intercourse after stating he’s a literal child is sneaky and problematic.
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Are you so stupid that you can’t comprehend basic English??? My gosh!!!
Just say you a pedo and move all
Stop all the yapping because a doesn’t the fact that you are a degenerate…. Reprobate
You dont go around calling people stupid and a wuss. You sound like an ass. Have some basic human decency
I was gonna leave this to die but I found the exact same swirls in the background of another manwha.. https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/crossing_the_line_1/uu/br_chapter-197180/pg-1/
As I suspected they are just an asset of some sorts. Please don't make such jumps in logic without any actual proof
Insulting people and calling them stupid over a swirl asset. You people were really that desperate to be on your moral high ground for a fictional thousand year beefy god with three personalities that some (honestly not even crazy) reverse daddy kink gets the author accused of being a lobbyist for American pedophiles. Fortunately this is just a discussion on mangago but imagine if this happened somewhere else and people really started believing it. As many have said already in this thread, context matters. Not just inside of the story but outside of it too. A Korean author has no reason to use an American symbol if their goal is to advertise to their fellows/locals, if they used the symbol they would make sure it fits the triangular shape that is described in all of the articles linked in this very thread.
I'm yapping here but it's because I find this line of thinking very harmful in the long run. Even without the "child" the MC was raped in like the second chapter. Is the author a rapist? Do they want men to be raped? Are they advocating for the rape of men? And are you, as the reader, also advocating for rape just by reading it? If so then you have already lost all moral high ground, if not then you can at least admit you have made a leap in logic to assume the author associates with a pedophilic organization.
I think I give enough proofs and I explained my logics and reasoning on why I came to such conclusions. I’ve also spoken to my Korean friends and had some explained the entire scenario and more. I stand by what I said. The author editing the translation like many are mentioning in the comments doesn’t change anything. I can’t insert more links here because it will require to be on websites forbidden by my school. Anyways I already dropped the manhwa and don’t want to return to it or speak on it any. Let’s agree to disagree.
Fr fr this actually escalated lol HAHAHA
You are really live up to your name
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Did you hop on your second account?? My gosh, let it go. Stop defending ped0philia and grooming. If you were not so slow, you would’ve noticed the grooming of the child begin in chapter 1. If you don’t like my comments, leave.
https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/17808305/
FYI, the translation has been fixed. We really trusting a Translator over this.
You’re insane, those are just regular symbols every artist uses them to indicate dizziness there’s no p3d0phil1a meaning behind it. NOTHING. You saying all this can cause harm to artists, its defamation. Im also an artist and has used the swirl to show dizziness, my artist friends too. This is fckng ridiculous and you got to mature.
I don't think the author is 'implementing' it.... Ive read a lot of manhwas and mangas, inc animes and all, and the swirls are just indicating a moment of 'disappointment'. Younger Mugo become gloomy (the way the author colored the scene, the situation, etc).
I understand that youre just trying to spread awareness since I also just figured about the pedo symbols (istg ive never heard of them). And it's also crucial to differentiate and know what is implied and what's not. Plus previously about the translation part, in the Korean raws, it's not clear whether how old is Younger Mugo
Did you hop on your third account!!!
Can you just piss off already.
My issue is the fact that the author implemented the symbol when the child is engaged in SA with the uke. I’m not the only one who concluded this. It was discussed in a manhwa group I’m apart of.
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Thanks for being respectful when conveying your opinions.
You called them a "bird brain", an "ass", a "pedo" , "limited comprehension", and an "arguer" just because they said said "you're a wuss for not posting a single link to what you claim". This is not how you get people to believe you.
Don't even talk about respect when you fire right back at them with more. Actually delusional.
Also, very funny that anyone who disagrees with you is automatically an alt account. Very funny indeed.
Your mom and dad also delusional for birth your dumb ass
no cus imagine being so chronically online that you automatically assume everyone disagreeing with you is an alt
Talk to therapist aboit it
I read the entire discussion between you and the other party. I noticed they are so bend on trying the prove their point about tje symbol being innocent but failed to notice the other problematic issues within the BL genes like R*pe, forced intercourse, the depiction of children and portraying them as adults, for example how some artists illustrate literal minors and slaps adult age on them. I also questioned the validity of the symbol and where the author decided to incorporate it in the chapter , it’s problematic for me to. I also took into consideration the sneakiness about authors implementing grooming and r*pe and other disturbing aspects. Reading the comments, I’ve not many lack’s good morals and understandings. It’s also disappointing when some are stating “oh well they fixed the translation and everything is ok now”. Grooming was evident from the beginning of the chapter. English is not my first language so I hope you understand. I understand your concerns and you are doing or saying nothing wrong. Glad there are people out here like you looking out for the well being of children. You are not the first, I’ve read many articles online about BL and how it promotes PDphilia. Our world is so messed up that many failed to recognize the atrocities towards children. Sorry for the long essay. Take it easy.
I will share with you an article connecting BL content to paedestry* . Someone wrote a great article about BL content and how predestry stems from Ancient Greece and Roman civilization. They also mentioned about lobbyists funding these projects for worldwide promotions. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are also sponsoring websites who provide BL contents. Once I find it I will forward it to you. I also dropped the manhwa. I was reading on the official website but heard about the commotions here and came to check it out. About the swirl symbol, you are not wrong, I remember there was an outrage few years ago during the Oscar but the exact symbol was in the background on the award stage.
Thought I was the only one who noticed the child reference…. Did the child version do it with him? Cus this shit getting weirdest…. Luv the story but not sure if I can continue if it’s like this. Waste of a good plot.
I don’t think the kid version did it with him, the Ego version of Mugo transformed and did that to him, but the kid version seen that Mugo was being mean to him so he changed back with ego Mugo bc he wanted to play more games. But I get what you mean.
The kid’s version didn’t but the Ego version transformed into the child’s version why his things was still in the uke.
Matthias’, many don’t understand the character from a psychological standpoint and the fact he is a very complex character. When I say a lot of readers lacks comprehension of the story, I’m not trying to insult anyone or be condescending(some accused me of being condescending). I’ve read the novel and I had my cousin who’s a specialist in this field read the novel also and explained things I didn’t understand when I first read the novel. My perspectives of Matthias changed. Matthias a perfect and poised duke without any flaws and Leyla a woman who has entered his life and altering everything physically and emotionally. She has the power to disentangle his perfect upbringing. He is conflicted because of her. For the record, during Layla dialogues, she never accused Matthias of SA or gRape. Her emotional response to his advancement in the novel was extremely complicated and disorganized in the beginning. She couldn’t describe and neither did she accept his advancement, but she never apply gRape or SA, neither did the Author. As we read along in the novel, we are able to notice some changes in Leyla but imma have to stop here. This is just my response up to the current chapter. I don’t want to spoil the entire novel. I love this novel and I will probably be back weekly to share my commentary.
Please do!!! This was very eye opening.
Eww rape apologist
Cry about it or better yet bounce on his dick
Why would I cry about something a retard says lmao
Seems like it got you triggered and stressed that you won’t stop talking about it.
Talking about yourself? You seem obsessed with this shitty sorry of a story and so stressed that you can't defend this enough. Pretty pathetic
Black and Brown people rarely have a presence in manga and Manwha. Whenever they presented they are also portrayed as the villains in the worst stereotypical way. This trope needs to be revised. Black people can also be the protagonists or love interest, not gRapists or criminals. Not trying to start a race war here, I’m mixed myself (Asian+African). Just the stereotypical portrayal of black people in Asian entertainment bothers me.
Hana yori dango NYC all over again
Haven’t read this for a while. Returned and noticed the uke has shrunk to almost minor size, even in the new cover. He looks like a teenage now in the recent chapters and a child in the cover. Am contemplating if I should continue reading or not. This is my opinion and if you don’t like it, continue scrolling.
If you have not read the official translated novel, stop spreading misinformation about the novel. Majority of you have not read the novel and just come here to regurgitate what some who never read the novel commented on social platforms. It’s embarrassing to you and devastating to the author’s work. Do better.
For Example,
Someone mentioned on one of my previous posts that Matthias got Leyla into premature labour and try to kill the baby. Then she had the baby…. Hahahahaha like seriously smdh
It keeps happening. Seriously, what's wrong with these people?
No Redemption
Castration and Defenestration Only!!!!!
not defenestration . did they even build windows like that in ancient korea.
You comment made me laugh so hard
We always find a way, from the top of a mountain or we can Time Machine a castle or skyscraper.
Another child looking uke. I’m disappointed in some BL artists. If you are not into ukes looking like prepubescent boys, skip this one. Are women really creating the arts and story of BL?? This is extremely reprobate behaviour.
Always assume the best intentions unless it’s giving red flag from the start
This might just be a case of size difference and artstyle but yeah it is kind of scary
He’s a child so of course he looks like a child. They’re not together I think
Yah at least I hope they’re not together.
Ya’ll gotta factor in the settings of the story. Not the same as our society today. Also the definition of most words has changed since its original meaning. Matthias actions wasn’t considered what we view it to be today. As we can notice that from Leyla, she didn’t considered Matthias actions as abuse or gRape. Leyla’s main concern when you read the novel and comprehend , is that Matthias is engaged and about to marry but he wants her and also their differences in status. Leyla also wanted to be his main girl in his life hence when she begged him to love her only forever. It’s actually confirmed after her conversation with Riette when he told her Matthias isn’t tied up with Claudine no more. Leyla was finally willing to accept Matthias. Hope I made myself clear.
Riette
I know…. He became my favourite after reading