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Damn why tf everybody hating on this manhwa now?? The only thing that really pissed me off was that Chowon and kyungsoo didn’t actually have a baby together, I feel like it could’ve been completely plausible. Why not so IB or something and just use Kynugsoo’s sperm?? Who cares if it doesn’t work the first time you guys are filthy rich. Nonetheless tho it’s still really sweet how accepting Kyungsoo is to get a sperm donor, he’s the best (≧∀≦)
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I also find it funny that a lot of you complain and wanna sanitize everything but you’re reading on a site called mangago which used to have a category specifically for shotacon content and still TO THIS DAY hosts it.
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looking for where in the comment op said they like incest and shotacon lmaoooo! and its not incest between the boss and potato, its side story with an au where potato is an adult. it doesn't mean he raised him to that age, they just happent ointeract with each other as adults and despite all that, the vibes arent even that bad
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I don't think people are trying to "sanitize" everything. It's one thing to go into a comic, knowing that there's weird shit and being mentally prepped for the contents, and this isn't that. With this comic, I'm low-key mourning the wholesome father-son story that I was lured in with. Initially there was no indication that there would be weird incest stuff here, and it's natural to feel a certain type of way about it lol
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uhh so u lemme get this straight. u hate this work but u still in the com sec tryna do wtv ur weird ass is tryna do? ur basing shit off ppls comments and u immediately apply it to all the ppl reading this work. mah dude get ur head out of ur ass which will not be difficult to do cause ill assume it's not big enough to hold a fully funtional brain and fuck off from this work if U DONT LIKE IT.
fucking shotacon my ass, that character is a whole ass GROWN UP man in the supposedly romantic scenes. SHOTACON is those with childish physiques, like literal kid-like bodies.
also, incest??? if that's what u can pull out of ur ass, try and take ur head out with it pls cause if u dont know the word, hun, there's this thing we call a dictionary where u can just yknow look it up.
also what is up with ppls in this comsec tryna justify themselves by calling other ppl weird? if y'all have read this and do like incest and shotacon (WHICH IS NOT THIS WORK AT ALL.) y'all are fucked up in the head. not weird. FUCKED UP. cause no matter how y'all defend that shit y'all know those kinda thoughts belongs to the trash.
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yeah I'm not going to waste my time on an idiot who cant read
1: I don't hate the work I hate some of the au learn the difference
2: I'm not applying anything to everybody who's reading this work IM ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE PERSON WHO MADE THIS COMMENT AKA KEY.
3: I'm not talking about this work read the replies fully before you type out something ignorant and DUMB. Key LITERALLY has a question on their page where they admit to supporting shotacons and missing the tag. THEY ALSO have a comment where they imply they like INCEST. GOD
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in that case, id like to sincerely apologize for not fully comprehending ur comment. ur explanation made the situation clear since before I thought u were referring to the person who is reading this work, which means ur attacking the work as well. I understand that aint the case, thanks for explaining and again, sorry. ┗( T﹏T )┛
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Aw no no it’s okay.
I also want to apologies for coming off the harshly with my reply, I was just slightly annoyed by something already and replied without calming myself down.
I don’t care if people like this story or dislike it however I am going to point out when people are weirdos or have made weird statements then turn around and say stuff like the OH commenter did.
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I’m a bit confused here. Where did op said he liked either of them? I personally don’t like reading the grown up parts but it’s true that mangago used to have more shotacon content and it’s also true that people literally come back every weeks when it updates to read it and complain about it instead of just dropping it.
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On a serious note I stated where I got that information from when the first person asked, I also checked which comment you replied to love,
Just incase you somehow forgot it was this one “so not only do you like incest but you also consider yourself to be a shotacon?? yeah uhh you're beyond weird.”
and my response was me basically telling you to learn how to check replies because you generally need to!! With that being said I made that statement back in February on the 17th its now June, stop coming back trying to start something its embarrassing
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Then again, by only reading the first reply. it doesn’t state *where* the info comes from. Nor have i found the comment you talked about when clicking on their page to verify the info. I don’t care enough to argue with you so i’ll just be leaving this here, but I have no idea what you’re on because nothing’s embarrassing about wanting to verify information, doesn’t matter when it was posted.
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And i’ll repeat it. I still don’t know where you got the information from. I had read the replies after posting that comment but couldn’t find the post you mentioned where they defended both those things, which is why i left the comment there, i still don’t know what comment you’re talking about, but i don’t care enough to look for it anymore, nor do i care enough to argue with you about it.
Now i’ll leave this here in case it helps your poor mind relax, but my reply was posted literally 3 days or so after yours, back in February, so i don’t know what you’re on about with it being embarrassing, okay, let’s imagine i HAD commented only now about it, i don’t see what’s embarrassing about verifying an information that was said by a stranger under a comment section, doesn’t really matter when it was posted, it’s not like it was 3 years later or something.
Enjoy the rest of your day
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TLDR since i wrote a long paragraph:
The comment where you explain didn’t actually explain where you found the info from after i went to verify myself and found no comment defending it.
My first reply was also back in February 3 days after you, so idk what you’re on with the “embarrassing”.
Have a nice day.
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Then again, my first reply eas simply potining out the fact its something they like! Then again when somebody asked I gave them proof! The day it was posted matters alot as well!! As time goes on and they make more comments or questions other ones get pushed further down. OFC you didnt see it when you checked it, because its already on another page, with that being said Heres the comment of them implying they like shota and defending it
https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/14959635/
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If you don't care enough to look for it anymore then why the hell did you reply to me about 2-3 months later
Also I'm saying its embarrassing because I literally stated where you could've found the information WHEN somebody asked, you never once stated you couldn't find it when you first replied to me
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Yes I can somewhat understand if you were asking now and had trouble finding it BUT YOU ASKED BACK IN FEBRUARY when it was still in the same spot that's why I “ Why do y’all love replying without reading everything it’s genuinely annoying ” if you had simply specified that you couldn't find it for whatever reason I would have happily given you a link BUT you didn't
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I really don’t know what you people expect to see when you come every few weeks, read incest, then come back again after a few more weeks to see more incest and complain like idk I feel like you like it at this point and you don’t wanna admit it to yourself. Yes, you’re fully allowed to express your opinion and you don’t have to like it. But in the same token, you also don’t have to read it and it comes off as YOU forcing YOURSELF to read an incestuous comic. If you keep coming back saying the same things like “this is disgusting because blah blah blah” you’re wasting everyone’s time including your own. There’s a billion other stories to read on mangago that are purely familial and you still come back to this story that sets up a clearly romantic tone. If you don’t like it then remove it from your list and leave. If you’re one of the people waiting for the romance between the two lackies that’s fine but you’re in for a long time coming and the constant cycle of complaining and waiting and making yourself “uncomfortable” AGAIN is getting old and it makes you seem like a masochist. .
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Mmmm I love the smell of incest
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because y'all are getting really annoying it's already past 100 chapters or something and you're still whining about the same shit you created your own version of the story in your mind and you can't accept that the author isn't going with y'alls weird fantasies, let it go atp your "opinion" is a nuisance
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Incest!??? Lol how did you come to that conclusion also
@Nixon just because you have every right to express your views doesn't necessarily mean you have to open your mouth to talk shit, if your not adding anything important to the discussion better be quiet.
When the author doesn't have any problem writing it, the author's 'real target audience' doesn't have any problem why do you'll have so much problem.
Sometimes I feel, it's good English speaking audience don't have complete access to their media platform, had it been the case you bunch of snowflakes would run there to shit on their comment section and ruin it, just look at their reviews and look here, striking difference!!
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Also I think the author wanted to try something new with this story, I've read many other of authors work, author is originally a bl writer so those slides with romantic undertones are like fan-service for the authors, 'main audience', the ones you'll find on weibo. Intact the name in english is translated wrong when you go to that site, the name is, "The Wolf picked something up".
There they have amazing merch lined up which I want so badly but don't know where to get it, lol!!!!
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Once again it’s their own opinion and their allowed to express it, if it’s not that serious THEN ignore them, nobody is telling you to pay in mind to their comments or even reply to them.
Nobody cares about the fact you’re tired or anybody else is tired of seeing “the same comments over and over again” GROW up once again it’s their opinion they don’t have to do anything
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1: “Open your mouth to talk shit” somebody pointing out the fact they don’t like when a author is doing certain things isn’t talking shit it’s literally an opinion especially when what the author is doing or portraying is generally weird.
2: “if your not adding anything important to the discussion better stay quite” yeah love take your own advice, let’s not sit here and be more of a hypocrite it’s embarrassing, nobody in this comment section has added anything important to any discussion everybody is expressing their opinion and some people are doing it in childish ways AKA you and several others.
3: “the author real targeted audience doesn’t have a problem” which generally isn’t the, you can literally find some people who are the author real targeted audience who don’t like what their doing, on top of that just because a targeted audience doesn’t have a problem with something doesn’t mean I won’t or several others wouldn’t, if the target audience was racist people you think I wouldn’t have a problem with that? No I would, so let’s not act ignorant.
4: “sometimes I feel it’s good English speaking audience don’t have complete access to their media platform” once again you’re completely wrong and not everybody who reads this story on this app even speaks English or first language is English. You can literally access the og platform that this was posted on and find several other translations.
5: y’all love calling people snowflakes yet your acting like one yourself.
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1: what weird fantasies are you talking about?
2: stop acting like an ignorant hypocrite!! Nobody cares about the fact it’s been 100 chapters nor does nobody care about the fact you and several of their childish and ignorant people who don’t know what comments sections are for, are annoyed, you don’t have to look at their comments you don’t have to reply to them, you don’t have to read their comments in general if they annoy you so much, nobody is forcing you to do anything.
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“They came here after watching a couple of tan made TikTok’s with their own expectations”
1: everybody has their own expectations when they read something and normally go based off of genres and tags or even descriptions, no where did it suggest the author was going to make “romantic” undertones about the two in AU or anything like that. The TikTok videos show or talk about them having a father and son relationship SO do most of the comments when displayed on the front page, so what other expectations did you expect ppl to have?
2: nobody is shitting on the author because they didn’t meet their expectations, their “shitting” on the author because they simply don’t like what their doing you have several stories that can meet certain expectations yet people still can point out a detail they didn’t like or something they assumed would work better, that’s what happens when you create stories or books.
3: it doesn’t matter if this does or doesn’t get an official translation people are still going to express their opinions!!
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-And what does that opinion of yours doing after calling out people and the slides in adult verdion here lol, if you so much want to be a hero, directly go to weibo account and fight with author, your heroic words are hypocrisy which is said to make yourself feel better, they're doing nothing here except for you and people like you be an annoyance.
-Not you calling others opinion childish after writing long ass para just to defend those who have been calling words to author and people here, now bullying has a new word in the form of 'opinion'.
-don't you dare lie about those 'some' people, have you ever been to weibo and interacted with them that you're spouting nonsense here, your comparison has no sense honestly, it's so unrelated!!
-Not once did I say they should have English as there first language but your kind of rudeness can be seen in this language only.
Lol not at all, people are just refuting the things you butthurt people like to say, there's a choice to ignore those adult version but no a snowflake will not only read it but also come to shit on it in the comment section like you, what a hypocrisy!!.
So did your long ass para change something!?? No; Did author heard your voice!? No; Do you want it to be not posted here!?? If yes!! You and people like you have no right to decide that as you don't own this story nor this website, it's free to all, public(do you understand public!!) And if No!! Is you answer, your problem is your problem at this point. Did you become an annoyance!???? Yes( you succeeded, bravo!!)
You cannot judge a persons imagination based on your standards, your normal is not other person's normal.
People can imagine adult version in many ways, them not having any previous relations and just met randomly or they can imagine the way it's shown or they can imagine it him joining their line of work and then meeting, it's just so they don't miss the author work.
Author write these adult version for a tease but you wanna be that karen who think I'm always right, so be it.
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1: half of the things you stated don’t even make sense nor do they have anything to do with what I said. you didn’t fully read my comment or anything like that, for starters I’m not trying to be a hero of any sorts so putting that in your comment was a waste nor did it connect to anything I said. kindly learn what the term “heroic word” & “hypocrisy” in general mean because it’s clear that you don’t. Also I don’t have to go onto weibo and do anything, I’ve already expressed my opinion and so have several other people on weibo.
2: I’m saying people like you who are sitting here whining and complaining about others expressing harmless opinions and statements are childish, I’m not saying the opinions you have yourself are childish learn the difference!! On top of that you wrote a long paragraph as well so this whole entire part wasn’t needed. kindly learn what the term “bullying” is instead of watering it down to fit your childish mindset, nobody in the comment section is bullying the author by pointing out they don’t like certain things their doing or once again EXPRESSING their opinion.
3: did your long paragraph change something!” Who knows, you should be asking yourself that question tho, did your paragraph change anything? When you figure out the answer to that question let me know! | “did the author heard your voice!?” No idea, however I never said they did nor do they have to, the same implies to you and several others, your sitting here whining and complaining getting onto your knees to defend the author when your voice isn’t going to be heard if we use your logic!! | “do you want it to be not posted here!??” Yeah this part makes no sense..
4: “you and people like you have no right to decide that as you don’t own this story nor website” yeah what does owning the story or website have to do with anything I stated?? I could care less about the fact that it’s being uploaded here, or on weibo or on any other website I never said it couldn’t be. The story is free to all public that’s correct SO that means anybody can express what they DISLIKE about the story, use your own logic love. | I’m very glad about the fact that I became an annoyance!!
5: “you cannot judge a person imagination based on your standards” you can tho.. people do it on a daily basis, when their voting, when their watching movies, when their reading, when their listening to music it’s something we do daily, your doing it right now. “Them not having any previous relations” okay cool however it’s clear that’s not the author intentions so adding this was random and uneeded
6: “Author wrote these adult versions for a tease but you wanna be that Karen who think I’m always right so be it” for starters if the author wrote these adult versions for a tease people still have every right to point out the fact they don’t like them. Also kindly learn what the term “Karen” means and stands for, stop using random terms you know nothing about
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Are you being serious right now!! You really don't understand or you intentionally trying to be clueless here, God help you, if you still can't understand even after dividing everything in short para.
(When I wrote that imagination part, it should be *even if you do* your normal is not other person's normal).
Then tell me, with every chapter that will be posted here, you and people like you, will be slaming your 'harmless' opinion of how adult versions shouldn't be there, the author is crazy to write something like this and people who read it are sick on their faces???
In what way is it not harmless if someone is writing, "how cute they look together" and under that comment you'll find "gross" written, if you have every right to post your opinion don't they also have every right to say whatever they feel.
They're indirectly calling people out, so everyone is refuting back, when people like you do, it's opinion but when people like me call out your bullshit, we are suddenly bad!!!
When there's already a disclaimer given, why do you read it, if you don't like that part, read fluffy part and leave the rest, it'll be read by people who enjoy it. That disclaimer is given so that the derogatory comments are not made but here you are, trynna act smart.
Every word that I wrote has it's meaning, so that you can understand it's only you who don't want to even try.
Why should I ask myself if it changed anything when you guys are ones who's trying so hard to make adult version look bad when it's not that serious also "you're glad that you became an annoyance" really now!! Is this the reason why you're badmouthing this story while reading at the same time, you can't be taken seriously after this lol!!
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harmless question here, is English your first language?
1: for starters once again half of the things you stated DONT make sense nor do they have anything to do with my comment. you have an obsession with bringing up things nobody talked about or stated. All start off by saying this, I'm not bad mouthing the story or anything close to that, I said I didn't like the AU the author was making its as simple as that. That's not me badmouthing anyone. If I said {"The author is an idiot who shouldn't be making a story, their art style is ugly"] THEN that would be badmouthing, once again stop using terms you know NOTHING about.
2: "trying so hard to make the adult version look bad when its not that serious" For starters nobody is trying to do anything, the author has been making romance undertones in the AU for awhile now more people are simply seeing them while others are being fed up, we aren't trying to change anything love. | {"it's opinion but when people like me call out your bullshit, we are suddenly bad!!!} For starters I've already made a statement about what your asking and talking about, that sentence right their makes it clear you either didn't read anything i stated fully or you didn't understand and you aren't asking questions. I DON'T CARE about the opinions themselves, i've made that clear in the comment before this one I'm not re-explaining what I mean for third time, if you didn't understand the first time, okay cool not wasting more time trying to explain it to you again.
3: {" That disclaimer is given so that the derogatory comments are not made"} you do realize people are going to share their opinions no matter what right? People are still going to state what they liked about the story, what they dislike and what they think can be added or even changed, A DISCLAIMER that's somebody else's opinion and mindset isn't going to stop that. | { "Then tell me, with every chapter that will be posted here, you and people like you, will be slaming your 'harmless' opinion of how adult versions shouldn't be there, the author is crazy to write something like this and people who read it are sick on their faces???" } first off let's just make this clear, this is a harmful opinion ["I think the author should just die, their art style is weird, the story is terrible and everybody who reads it is a weirdo"} Thats what would be considered HARMFUL. Now here a harmless opinions {"I'm not a fan of the author AU stories, I personally find them weird so I'll probably drop this"} that's a HARMLESS opinion, if you still cant grasp the difference then that's on you BUT most people in this comment section who have stated they don't like the AU hasn't said anything harmful so far. use the examples I gave you and read the comments its not that hard love.
4: {"Every word that I wrote has it's meaning, so that you can understand it's only you who don't want to even try."} okay cool and every word that you wrote didn't have anything to do with what I brought up or stated. if you think I dislike the story in any format then that's simply on you, however I never once stated that!! I don't dislike the story I dislike some of the AU learn the difference. I'm going to share what I dislike and like about the story in a respectful way WHICH I've done already, I made a separate comment where I made it clear that I like the story and some things I dislike. you can read it if you want to or you can ignore it however DON'T try to assume that I dislike the story as a whole or I'm badmouthing it especially when I never stated I disliked it in the first place.
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No, its not my first language!!
When you know what is a difference between harmful and harmless opinion why can't you understand what I'm saying, you're lying at this point about there not being any 'harmful' opinion in this comment section, maybe it's not in this comment thread but you have been going under many comments writing, let them say whatever they want, why!?? I'm bringing this harmful thing in this conversation because, you've been saying if it's not hurting anyone let them say whatever they want but that's not the case now.
You don't realize that the examples you gave of your so called 'harmful opinion' is written by people here, just because you didn't find it doesn't mean they aren't there.
Had those 'harmless opinion', the example you gave, been written nobody would have any problem.
Do you read everything with your eyes closed, when did I say about whole story, from the beginning I've been talking about adult version ffs.
Even tho, those disclaimers are given, you're saying that people will ignore it and start talking shit in the name of opinion??? It only means some people here are crazy, those who don't understand warnings!!!!
If you dislike AU versions knowing well that they gonna be posted here, why do you write negative about it, why don't just leave that part, why are you reading AU when you know it'll make you Uncomfortable also why are you saying half of the things that I'm saying, just in an elaborate way.
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Anyways, I’m not wasting my time anymore. If you think people expressing their opinions in harmless ways are harmful and annoying then go right ahead. I’m not going to keep repeating myself over and over again especially when you’ve made it clear several times you don’t fully understand what I’m saying or you aren’t fully feeding anything. I’ve already answered half of the things you brought up more than once. Have a lovely day/afternoon/night!
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I perfectly understand what you've trying to say but you're the one evading my questions and defending people who're talking shit.
Even I told you again and again what people are saying and why it is a problem, I even told you the difference but you just don't get it or I should say wanna turn a blind eye....
Thats great, nice choice you've made to not reply, now next time don't go around telling people that they can say whatever they want in the name of opinion.
Good day to you too!!
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I’ve never really been disappointed with the writing in TTB but with this newest chapter exploring the relationship between Sefal and Erald I can’t help but feel like something is missing when it comes to the writing. There’s lots of interesting stuff revealed in the chapters but the framework and presentation are really holding it back for me.
For the positives, I really like Sefal’s design. He’s really pretty to me and the basic idea of his character is interesting. His meeting with Erald is cute as well but their meeting has its own problems I’ll talk about later.
Firstly, just to start with the small stupid stuff. I wish that young Erald and Caius were a bit more visually distinct from one another. The only thing really setting them apart is the headband and outfit Erald wears and I wish that weren’t the case. Idk I feel like if Caius just decided to play around in his dad’s closet the people would feel like they’d seen a ghost lol but that’s just a small nitpick. I don’t like the way Sefal talks about himself, it gets really preachy and sounds unnatural. I understand that he’s pessimistic and a little self loathing but the way it’s written in text and what is shown are two completely different forms of being, it left me confused going through my first reading because it was so contradictory.
Most of my gripes with the writing really fall with Sefal and how his “introverted-ness”is portrayed. Lemme preface this but saying I really like the inclusion of a character who struggles with titan traditions like kouichi does, that irony of a Titian who struggles with forming and sustaining relationships is a really good one and makes for an interesting character. However, Sefal is described as being introverted in one of the first scenes that we see him in but is he really?? I think he’d be more properly described as just being shy or anxious rather than being called “introverted”. Since he actively wants to bond and interact with other people but doesn’t know how to go about it and often gets nervous. I think if they wanted to make him introverted that could’ve been better represented with his adoptive family. When leaving for the capital he becomes frustrated at the fact that he’s the only one torn up about having to leave since he can never return. We sadly don’t get to see a lot about his family or his time spent with them but I think his anxiety is what kept him from developing a strong bond with them as opposed to him having a preference for alone time. But that departure scene alone nonetheless proves he always wanted a relationship with them. If the author wanted to better illustrate his introversion I think it’d be better shown through him interacting with others and finding it emotionally taxing while finding more comfort in being by himself which would better serve as a direct a opposite to how titans are traditionally supposed to be. Anxiety serves as a better trait to his character than being introvert bc it can both tie into his ability to form relationships as a titan and his abilities as a prophet since I think having visions of the future and anxiety pretty much go hand in hand. I like his depiction in the scene with his early training as prophet, I might be reading too far into it but that image of him with other adults peering over him and watching him being the cause of him running away really suits that image better imo.
I wish we got to see more about his abilities as a prophet and how they came into fruition, as well as how he was discovered by the capital. A little more insight into that process would be helpful in adding to his character, I can’t be the only one who feels like a child being able to predict a few storms wouldn’t make you qualified to be the royal prophet of your country’s major religion. With the way other characters talk about the prophet and the visual framing he gets I imagined it’d be more rituals and visions as opposed to guesses that kinda just end up coming true. It leaves it feeling like he can say whatever he wants and because he has such a strong influence people will latch onto it. Immediately, Sefal doesn’t look happy about the fact that he’s been labeled as a prophet and even less so about the fact that he’s being chosen and taken back to the capital. Those small details are nice but again aside from background characters calling him a prophet how does that look to him. Given his reaction to the claim, does he see it as a gift or a curse? If he has visions at all how do they happen and what does that look like for him? What was the first thing he saw? What was the first important thing he saw that got him on the capital’s radar? Did his prophet ability have any influence on his relationship with his family/the towns folk? These are a lot of questions but they’re extremely important ones considering just how important the role of the prophet and that prophecy is to the story.
As for Sefal and Erald’s meeting, the one thing that doesn’t make sense to me is that Sefal hasn’t met or seen Erald before?? Like that’s the future king and you’re the prophet in training there’s absolutely no way you guys haven’t met or seen each other at least once since Sefal was taken to the castle at a young age. Maybe Sefal is kept in isolation which why they hadn’t met beforehand or the uniform he wears kept Erald from actually recognizing who Sefal was but later on Erald himself goes on to emphasize the specific bond the King and Prophet have and why it’s so important so I find it hard to believe that with the two of them being as important as they are there wouldn’t be at least one formal meeting. The jump cuts in these chapters don’t really do the reader any favors either and leave a lot to be questioned. I’d really like to know why Sefal thought that Erald was growing tired of him, it would’ve been nice to see more of their date(this also happened with their first date and I think it could’ve been a really strong character moment for both of them). What did Erald say or do that made him think that??
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I agree with most of the things you've said here, and you've made some good points. Though I feel like the reasonable answer to your questions is that they were never that serious of a couple. The main couple of this series is Kouichi and Caius, the secondary couple being Rail and Dyne. I think the reason why there were so many jump cuts and why so many things were left unexplained is because the author never intended to give Sefal and Erald much screen time. It was meant to be quick and brief. If they fully explained the backstory and left no questions unanswered, it would probably be much longer than one chapter. As for young Erald's design being too similar to Caius... I think that was on purpose. Everything from Erald's appearance, all the way down to his personality was meant to remind the reader of Caius. I think the entire backstory as a whole was meant to serve as a lesson to the main couple. The whole idea of "just do what you can" is scarily similar to Kouichi's dilemma and the entire backstory felt like a convenient setup to solve our main couple's problem. Plus, Erald appears to be passing of an illness anyway. It would be very saddening for the reader if the author dedicated multiple chapters and a full in-depth backstory to a couple that could never be. Maybe we'll see the rest of their story someday ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
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Idk I just don’t get it, under all of their works there’s always people complaining about the noncon/rape saying they don’t like it but honestly I don’t get it at all like that’s the best part!! ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ I get if it’s not your thing but it feels like alot of you are looking to bl for sex ed or proper representation of certain issues when it’s just gay porn lol. I mean be serious for a second this is Sakurabi Hashigo we’re talking about. I say keep up the noncon/rape it’s hot and it’s always good in all of their works. Plus no matter what couple they’re writing for I feel like Hashigo has such a fun and unique art style it’s so expressive and cool!! Started off reading Dakaretai otoko and I loved it so much I even bought the nendroids ^^ if any of their other characters get nendroids I’d definitely buy them! Anyways don’t get deterred by these lame ass comments follow your dirty dreams fujoushis and keep up the awesome work Hashigo! ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
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Noncon/rape is something that should never be accepted no matter how people justify it. Whether you want to fantasize about being raped or not has nothing to do with moral standards. Rape should not be normalized in any form of media, since even children have internet access nowadays. If they come upon rape, they should be told that rape is not okay at all, instead of being told that as long as rape is hot it's fine, or it's fake so it's fine. It is not fine, even if they're imaginary characters, because some people, especially younger people, are bound to take things seriously. I don't think we should be encouraging rape, it should've died down long ago. In fact, it shouldn't even be fantasized about in the first place. Just keep those fantasies to yourself and your partner. Stop telling people it's ok to like rape because it's not.
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Didn’t wanna come back to this but you literally proved my point. First off all BL(GL, Hentai, or even just porn) shouldn’t be look at under the guise of proper sex ed or accurate/appropriate sexual relationships. Did you forget what site you're typing this out on?? Mangago is full of problematic forms of media(noncon/rape, incest, abuse, underage, etc.), this is an adult site. What do you think the comment section if for?? To comment about the works and the things you enjoyed which in my case was the noncon. “You shouldn’t talk about it because there might be kids around”. You know how you fix that issue?? Parent you damn kids and monitor their internet access. If your child has any access to porn sites and is at risk of consuming problematic content I’d say it’s time to take the phone away and if your a minor going into an adult space mind your damn business. It’s not the job of adults to cater their spaces to children(who wants a child friendly porn site??), they’re not supposed to be there in the first place. If you can’t differentiate between kink/fiction and real definitive rape being wrong you might be an actual dumbass please never have sex or at the very least use birth control or contraceptives. Anyways noncon forever and if you don’t like it mind you business, don’t read it, and don’t try to police others on their kinks and fantasies <3
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I'm not talking about normal sexual content, I'm talking specifically about RAPE. It's a criminal offence. It should not be commercialised or glorified, by adults or children alike. It's like snuff films, I'm aware there are people who enjoy them, but that's wrong. And it's especially not ok to go around saying I love murder. Also, if you think taking away their phones can solve the problem you're extremely naive. They'll always find another way. And use your common sense, even if you take away their phone, iPad, laptop, computer, apple watch, TV, they can still go out and borrow their friends', hell, even library computers. There's no way to completely cut off someone's internet access nowadays. Yeah, it's the parents' responsibility to educate their kids but you shouldn't advertise crimes. It's fine if you're a bit fucked up inside but the least you can do is to not fuck others up. I'm not trying to control what you find arousing, I'm just telling you to shut up about it because it's not something to be proud of and you don't have to tell everyone about your kinks. Consensual sex is consensual sex, noncon is noncon, I don't give a fuck if anyone finds out about the former, but the latter should be kept to your imaginations. <3
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Speak ur truth !! All the people saying they like it are probably just immature and hypersexual with no real world experience. Non con is disgusting and should NEVERRR be accepted or it'll warp society's standards for real life victims. Don't waste your time and breath arguing with immature people, just keep spreading whats right and people will mature eventually. Thank you for standing up for what's right (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
Ahhhh I wish this continued the concept is good and the bottom is cute T^T