Sure Lucas, let's ignore the fact that you recently had a realization about you being the reason Obelia(?) would get destroyed in the first place, for Athy.
HE'S BACK AND BREATHING AND THEY'RE TOGETHER MAHWHAHWHAWHAHAW POWER COUPLE ASSEMBLE HYAAAAAAAAHH
I still don't see how yall hate tess, though yes she becomes an annoyance she's never rlly acted in a way she's not supposed to? She's a child, don't forget that simply because of her looks and background(being a princess and all) she let's her emotions take over her sometimes , and acts like a tsundere most time but she's still 12. In her situation I can definitely see why she would get angry at Arthur because in the end he is always running away. If you have good valid reasons on why u dislike her not just because she's a possible FL in a action manwha, and not because of her acting like how a 12yr old is then prove it. I actually rlly like her
Why aren't yall able to handle rlly happy sibling relationships? There are some who claim this is incest but in general u guys are the ones who are sexualizing a sibling relationship between a brother who truly loves and cares for his sister with an illness, yall are weird. Also I keep seeing dion mentions in the comments, so lemme say dion just has other purposes
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well they probably know from the novel that this isn't ur sweet innocent sibling relationship lol
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well they probably know from the novel that this isn't ur sweet innocent sibling relationship lol
ops sorry I posted that twice
UGHHHHHH that's so sad dammit
Sorry... your nick an photo... I... idn if I love u or fight u to death over him... xD
On another note... we have so much fauxcest lately (ya know, the fake ince where they're "not blood related") that anything family related goes under the sus banner for a while... and dang I'll be disappointed if his obsession goes beyond platonic or goes on a romantic way... just no pls gos no... if it does pls someone spoil me so I can drop it instead of wasting time...
as i know he doesn't love her romantically but real obsessed with her or sth. im not sure i didnt read the whole novel but i read some spoilers.
seriously tho i understand why ppl are biased since we have stories like Beware of the Brothers where they were basically raised as siblings - FL also lived a lifetime seeing them as brothers and nothing more- then ppl say "but they're not blood related!!!" sorry but it's still incest lol
Glad to know! I can read it in peace then...
Honestly I've been seeing a lot of those lately and it worries me seeing that not blood related argument in the comments. The ones who usually think that are sexual predators going after step-daughters... who tend to be minors. And that actually happens a lot in reality. I can't help but read it and associate it with people who see a 13-14yo "dating" an adult and say that it's ok cuz she is "the mature type".
I've read Beware till I realized mid story the the ml would be the brother and not her childhood friend perfectly fine fiance. My main thought was just how their parents would feel about it and how could the other 2 brothers accept it. No matter what excuses I'm fed... it's still unacceptable to me.
Goddamn, she raised him into a tyrant not knowing this man was already pretty unhinged from the start. Now he's unhinged with an obsession for her, to the point he did something that happened to her. But with the emperor, and he just wanted praise. Omfg this is such a dark story
Thus girl is such a Queen, she got a smart ass guy who had managed to keep the Lombardy family up even after their slow destruction for two years. That just shows how good he is, and how he's extremely intelligent for doing it secretly (he might have died if the crown prince found out since he's helping out the Lombardies) and she got that man to bow down to her while he asks to be one of her people. He's extremely intelligent for picking the right side, I WANT MORE
Do yall realize Cayena actually doesn't like him? Yes she's been flustered once or twice but that was over his face and bizarre actions (being touchy) what's with yall blaming Cayena for 'denying her feelings' when it isn't even developing yet? Almost the entire manwha we see so far is about revenge, wait patiently for the romance! Cayena's heart fluttering or noticing that she got flustered does not mean that she'll immediately believe 'Oh! I like this guy even though it completely contradicts my plans of not wanting to stay in the empire!' This girl experienced being used, and from what we see in her previous life and getting Cayena's memories, it was all from men. She has no plans to be married, she's stated that more than once. She's sick of being bound in the empire with her lunatic brother and just wants to live peacefully. Ofc romance is gonna come but to immediately deceive yourselves that she's denying feelings is dumb and annoying. Please appreciate her independence for a bit, because that energy where you guys cheer for the villains for being independent suddenly disappears when the ML is rejected once? He gotta atleast try harder (he did with a building but that still won't be enough to flutter her heart, it's more of like a materialistic trade.)
took the words right out of my mouth cus i highkey agree, i dun think current cayena has developed any romantic feelings for the ml i mean she’s been preoccupied and busy tryna break away from her brother… i really dun blame her lmao ╮(￣▽￣)╭ plus all these “moments” between them is just a natural response to someone super good looking it doesn’t hold any meaning yet at least from cayena’s side
Wrong. Cayena is slowly growing feelings for him, but she only brushes him aside because of the original novel. But she does like him, just not as much as he likes her. I know because I’ve read the novel. The more they encounter each other, the more she likes him.
“ Please appreciate her independence for a bit, because that energy where you guys cheer for the villains for being independent suddenly disappears when the ML is rejected once?” Who are you even referring to? It hasn’t disappeared. And people are mainly joking when they say stuff like “if you won’t take him, I will.” And fawning over him, and there is nothing wrong with that. Nobody is throwing away that cheering or whatever. Yeah, blah blah she’s stated more than once she doesn’t want to get married or whatever more bullshit, hardly anyone is complaining or crying over that she “rejected” him. Even so, calling people dumb and annoying just cause they want some romance and get a bit sad over FL “rejecting” him is uncalled for and if I were to say, even dumber and more annoying. And you act like her having a romantic partner or romance of any sort will limit her independence, but obviously, Raphael isn’t the type to restrict her. In this chapter he was just being straight forward. Her having romance does not mean that she will lose her independence.
“Cayena's heart fluttering or noticing that she got flustered does not mean that she'll immediately believe 'Oh! I like this guy even though it completely contradicts my plans of not wanting to stay in the empire!'”
It’s laughable that you even think in the first place that people would think like this. Nobody in these topics is even expressing this thought process.
I wasn't talking about the people who say they'll take ML I'm talking about the ones who blatantly say Cayena is annoying for brushing her feelings off, which I've already stated I don't believe have started to properly develop yet. They completely dismiss the part where she wants to run away and just live her own life cause she's sick and tired of being controlled. Not to say she believes ML will control her, just that she probably wants a break. But people gloss over that fact and believe that her entire character is just underdeveloped simply because she doesn't understand her feelings yet? Or because she doesn't have feelings that are growing as of now. If u scroll hard enough you'll find the complaints about her just brushing feelings off and that makes her character sooo 'annoying'. Which I'm sick of seeing, especially when they sue her 'wanting' to follow the original novel. When she's already aware she's far past that she just wants to live in independence for a bit
True I believe that too but it isn't as obvious and is not her true goal, as of now atleast. And I don't rlly believe Cayena would even bother believing that she should follow the original novel when she's aware she's far pass that. She just believes he still has that phobia (forgot the name) which is completely normal. Because in her past situation she was always annoying him (og Cayena) so her trying to respect his boundaries now isn't her rlly brushing off his feelings nor trying to follow the original novel.
I put it in a sarcastic tone btw, but I did see people in the comments completely ignoring the fact that she doesn't want to be in the empire. And by marrying a precious Duke in that same empire might cause her to be bound here. She's probably gonna make a plan on how to make both things work when she does realize her feelings or when her feelings grow more. But right now they're just brushing it aside still finding it annoying that she denies her feelings.
She’s brushing off his feelings because of his phobia and also because she wanted it to follow the original novel, not just because she wants to respect his boundaries (he has also expressed that he doesn’t mind kissing her bare hand.) she’s going to constantly try and set him up with Olivia even though he doesn’t want it, so that is brushing away/off his feelings.
Because of the novel, she still had this thought process that Olivia and Raphael were meant to be. Even though things won’t exactly happen as it did in the novel, she still tries to set them up. But they don’t even like each other. Although she’s smart, she considered them some sort of characters in the novel... Raphael even had to confront her about it.
I take back my comment about nobody saying stuff like that. I just saw a comment similar to what you’re saying now.
YES thank you, revenge now romance later. It's only the beginning and she's been through a lot, you can't expect her to find romance immediately when she's still busy dealing with stuff that held her down before.
OK so I'm gonna state something that is purely from my belief. I understand their anger at how the world turned against them, but to take people's lives especially when they're innocent is uncalled for. Also the new hero or the hero of revenge, is becoming exactly what he hates, which I'm pretty sure he knows. I feel bad for them because they desperately saved people and had people from different worlds love and care for them, only to be monsters in the world they wanted to go back to. I think they're all on the grey with a light shade of black. Their backstory doesn't justify their actions but it makes us understand their anger and why they did what they did. I think I like how this shows that they are neither good nor bad, and that the world simply shaped them through the use of despair. I don't really think it's poorly executed if the authors point is to show people that villains aren't truly villains and heroes aren't truly heroes. Just people driven to a certain madness and extent. I like this it has potential!
I like your comment, it’s true that the so called “villain” killed many innocent people. But that’s the same to the evil people even if he kill the evil people. Innocent people will just turn on him for killing “others”, that’s why in this story. I don’t think there’s either a good or a bad side, both side have a story. I prefer the villain more. I hate to read problematic journey to kill other heroes instead of helping them regain their right mind. No one want to be abandoned, but others blame and blame. And it’s not even their fault for being transport to the other world to help others, it’s disgusting. I feel sorry for the fictional people in there.