Muheun's hot and cold attitude is due a lot to trying to put up boundaries with someone he is interested in him but who is too young for him. Seugjoo keeps pushing past those boundaries and initiating intimacy and that's the only way for them to have a relationship. Honestly what is the non-asshole thing for him to do here? To romantically pursue his male little cousin who he knew as a toddler? To tell this kid that he wants to be in a relationship with him when he's a teenager but insist they don't do anything physical?
When Seugjoo comes over to his apartment in the middle of the night, to scream at him until he leaves? To treat him coldly and insist on those boundaries that Seugjoo keeps blowing past? To start taking him out on dates sincerely acting relationshippy with someone he feels is a child? There is no way for Muheun to act here where he comes out of this not the asshole. The younger person has to be controlling the momentum of the relationship.
And it's not like Seugjoo has ever asked Muheun out on a date or anything like that either. Kissing someone while drunk and then expecting that they romance you in response while you ignore what happened is also weird.
Neither of them are handling this maturely. We expect Muheun to be mature because he was older. But if he got serious about romancing Seugjoo it would just be creepy due to the age difference.
I get where you’re coming from, especially about Muheon not wanting to dive headfirst into a relationship with a problematic age gap and power dynamic. But I think Seugjoo is being more mature here, especially given his limited experience, because he likes him but seems to be explicitly against getting into a relationship with Muheon—and his cold/passive behavior has remained mostly consistent with that mindset (obv except when he’s drunk), I mean he’s been trying to cut ties with Muheon multiple times already. Muheon on the other hand has been EXTREMELY wishy washy, and him forcefully kissing Seugjoo right when Seugjoo is trying to put an end to their situationship is emblematic of why everyone’s frustrated with him. It’s also very manipulative to use Seugjoo’s drunk advances not only as an excuse for intimacy but as a way to place the guilt on Seugjoo for initiating that intimacy. Like you said, the younger person should control the momentum of the relationship, and Seugjoo is trying very hard to do that; if anything, Seugjoo is trying to END that momentum, and Muheon is being immature by not letting it happen all while being very secretive about his intentions. Now what he COULD do is have an honest conversation with Seugjoo confronting the risks of a relationship and what they want from each other and how to move forward. Obviously not as dramatic of a story lol but it would be interesting and sweet! I’ve seen it happen in certain mangas before and it should totally happen here.
THIS
Since apparently people think reading a story that has pedophilia in it makes you a pedophile. Just like watching a movie about Batman makes you the caped crusader. Are you satisfied by the crimes you commit in the name justice? Is it fun to pretend to be a dumb rich boy in your down time?
But seriously if you are confused about the difference between fiction and real life PLEASE don't read this story. For your mental health. Also consider limiting yourself to shows and video games that don't contain violence.
And enjoying the musical Sweeny Todd (though I don't) makes you a cannibal, I guess.
Seriously fiction with problematic content is widespread through our culture (I say, as an American). Also as an American I live in a place where they are trying to bring back censorship of books, especially anything queer. The attitude that we must emulate what we read in real life is really problematic itself.
Not the same thing but go off
Alas!! Not everyone is smart to understand and god knows how all preachers just suddenly gathered here to tell what's right or not as if ppl reading are 1 year toddlers n can't understand a thing, these wannabe beacon of justice piff me off especially when they are preaching at wrong place n under wrong manga lol
This is public forum it’s stupid to expect people not to comment on weird mangas like this.you guys can read whatever you want nobody’s holding a gun at your head telling you no to, but don’t distort people’s uncomfortableness (WHICH TOTALLY IS A NORMAL REACTION ).
First of all there is nothing pedophile about this story and secondly, people who can't differentiate about reality and fiction shouldn’t read imaginary story at all.
And most comedic thing about the readers here is that they read every latest chapters and complain how wrong it is and preach about morality. HOW LAUGHABLE.
Lol, you didn't read the comments here did you?
I was reading this manga from the beginning and saw lots of disgusting comment saying how reading this manga makes readers a "criminal", " pedophile" and blah blah.
Anyone who commented positively about this manga get backlash from those preachers. They act like they are oh so great angel but they are secretly reading this and enjoying it.
All that ridiculous yap yet this ain't gon stop us from hating on y'all degenerates and this pedo manga plus watching a crime movie doesn't make you a criminal but supporting the crime does ! Got it brainless retard? I can understand people hating on this shit but the fact that y'all degenerates defend this shit like your life depends on it really cracks me up
And yes i am pretty sure people hating on it have stopped reading this shit ages ago just like me and come here to just shit on this manga and y'all who sexualize the kid in the comments
BATMAN LMFAOOO
well that’s the honest truth, there’s nothing to gain from reading a manga.
no but seriously I don’t follow this manga but shows it up on my timeline every once in a while and I see the comments talking about how they went the kid to f the teenager and it’s genuinely disgusting how do you expect people not to react to comments like that.
all I got from this was you can tolerate pedophilia (in fiction ofc, not tryna accuse you of nothing) but you draw the line at homosexuality..?
What's more stupid is to read n comment about something again n again that makes you uncomfortable n ppl like you coming and defending those ppl who are putting "gun on head of ppl reading whatever manga they want to".
Don't lie or make up things on your own to justify your unnecessary comments n reactions on "public platform" just because its public doesn't mean you can say whatever you want, nobody says the kid to f*ck the teenager here.
@ Batata actually I can! this is a public forum comment section which means I can say whatever I want! and literally all you have to do is take one scroll through this comment section to find weird comments!and yes I will continue to defend people who find this weird and uncomfortable because that is a normal reaction :D
But they talked about teaching Matthew to bottom and I wish we could see it. I think he would scream to have his Jin hyung inside of him
RIGHT LIKE WHY WOULD THEY HINT IT. WHYYYY
I've been waiting
we all have been girl. I literally tried to manifest it
The misunderstanding based on little mister nepotism not being able to dream of being afraid of being fired was just starting to get annoying
I am a little obsessed with Brett and Hayden's character design being a fox and a wolf. Hayden being loyal and pack minded, quickly forming bonds and wanting to hunt together like at the party. His pale grey skin hair and eyes. And Brett being so clever and a bit unscrupulous and his red hair and blue eyes. He's foxy
If I were an artist I would be drawing little side cartoons of the two of them as fox and wolf.
I would not be okay with my SO spending time alone with a "friend" who has confessed to them before they've moved on....love the story overall though. I like that neither of them pushes the other around
is confident he can make Hangyul happy? Despite making him cry for years and right then? Despite never trying to view things from the other person's perspective, ever putting them first, or doing anything for Hangyul all this time? .......okay. I don't see this relationship working in any way except for Hangyul to keep making sacrifices for Robin and to put Robin first for the rest of their lives, I guess. I don't know if Robin can compromise at all. Him smiling and thinking "I am so happy, I will make you happy from now on" while the person he loves is bawling his eyes out, not trying to provide any comfort at all was super weird to me. No sympathy at all for your partner's suffering? You don't feel bad at all now that you realize he's been heartbroken for years? Okay
It’s not the end of the story chill
And they are adults what did you want robin to do more? Get on his knees and start begging him? Just because he loved robin longer doesn’t mean robin loves him any less or it couldn’t work
I want him to see his lover crying - make a distressed face and offer him a hug instead of smiling to himself and having an internal monologue about what an awesome lover he's going to be while his partner bawls his eyes out. That is not a normal reaction.
I want him to show empathy. I have never in my life stood there smiling as someone I loved cried. Or even as someone I mildly like cries.
honestly you sound like someone trying way too hard to sound deep and ‘insightful’ while completely missing the context. most of what you’re “criticizing” has already been explained if you were paying attention. maybe give the story another read, cus you’re reaching for depth that just isn’t there. Lmao
They were literally hugging
And everyone feels things differently and shows their feelings differently
But it seriously isn’t that deep
Exactly
And robin handled everything pretty well
What's bro yapping about
coke rant
Ya'll gotta take it so hard that I have a different opinion than you? So personal? I felt creeped out is what I am saying, and guess what? I am entitled to my own opinions
i think people are being unnecessarily harsh here and should not be saying ‘coke rant’ over a topic on a bl manhwa of all things, but while you are 100% absolutely entitled to your own opinion this IS also completely willfully misunderstanding the situation at hand and kind of overextrapolating an issue where there is none. holding robin to the standards of the reader isn’t fair because he didn’t have pretty much any of the information we did. that’s what this chapter is about. making robin realise how deep hangyul’s affections ran. and to say he’s never done anything for hangyul is kind of disingenuous because hangyul was very closed off and a lot of robin’s efforts to inch towards him were pushed back. you can’t do anything for someone who won’t let you, and there’s no way hangyul would have accepted anything robin did try to do for or give him.
this is not a situation where one was clearly in the right and one wasn’t, hangyul’s feelings were completely unknown to robin and robin’s attitude completely blindsided hangyul. to act like robin is a terrible person and partner, while a valid opinion to have because everyone is entitled to their own, kind of ignores the story setup and how they both handle and address things. hugging him the moment he saw he was crying would have been inappropriate as comfort because hangyul needed to say his piece & robin needed to respond. hugging him first would have probably made him cry harder. and then they DID embrace, so…?
Drives me crazy. It's not possible that I could have hurt the other person right? I'm the victim here, since I 'm the one in one sided love nothing cruel I ever do could possibly be count and I never have to take any responsibility for my actions right?
Worried about this whole "psychopath" thing too. Like it could just be the MC getting into a relationship with someone who would never be able to fulfill their emotional needs. But it also could be the MC basically holding their relationship hostage to "teach" the ML to be more "normal". Which that's just wrong, you can't force a neurodivergent person to be neurotypical, you will only get masking back.
Ahhh, sensitive topics like this are harder to get right.
Meanwhile Seugjoo "You can't reject me if I reject you FIRST!" And, "you're such a horrible boyfriend! What do you mean we're not dating?!"
Also coming into people while drunk then pretending it never happened. Then "why do you treat me like a kid?". He matures a bit by the end of this story. Shifts to action rather than reaction. But I guess I am too old, I have really high expectations for maturity
It's because he's 20. In the novel, the gap in terms of maturity coming from age and spiritual ability was more significant. Here it was pretty one sided towards Seungjoo. Maybe cause it was more from Seungjoo's POV.