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U spoke my heart!!!! even as a slaves he has beautifulhair and i do so much treatment and my hair still looks like shit lol

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Caste heaven

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Ikr? Love is just a fake disease when it turns into an obsession. Both these characters are only interested in fucking using love as the theme. +1 for the brilliant observation.

I hope Lezhin treats her better after this, and that more people buy her chapters. She is miserable and it isn't fair. It fucking sucks that it came to this.

What happened?

yeah what happened?

It's a really long story. I don't even know where to start. Do you guys not know what's been happening at Lezhin? There's stuff everywhere about it. Haribo (plus dozens if not more of other artists) is upset with Lezhin for treating artists poorly and she has been down from the amount of illegal uploads of her work. All the little things added up and she has been depressed and stressed out. Also, the weekly schedule for artists is really hard, and almost all of them develop health problems after doing it for too long. But she actually hasn't made a bunch of money and a lot of Lezhin artists don't either, even the bestselling ones. Because all the illegal sites in Korea get more money than Lezhin, and on top of that, Lezhin is not paying artists their contracted sales portion. Illegal uploads internationally are the cherry on top, because millions of people read for free without even buying one chapter to support the authors.

Also, Lezhin fines artists for being late on their deadlines. The deadlines are two days before the post date, so it doesn't hurt Lezhin when they are late, but Lezhin does it anyway, because they claim late artists hurt their profits. What started everything blowing up was that they had an artist with cancer who was missing her deadlines, and she got fined even though she had cancer. They literally told her to buck up and stop whining. And then they didn't even pay her the right portion of her sales. When she confronted them about it, they posted a public response shaming her and showing her personal salary and payment information. Haribo was reallllly pissed when she saw that. She posted about how shocking it was to see how blatantly Lezhin gives zero fucks about its artists.

So basically everyone is fucking over artists-- readers, and their own publishers. If you want to know more about it, search the Lezhin tag on social media. There are a lot of people who post information about it and can link you to the petition to investigate Lezhin for breach of contract and tax evasion. Apparently Lezhin is not the only publisher that does this shit, but they are one of the biggest companies that does, and they make a fuck ton of money and have no excuse to not pay their artists what they promised them.

I have summarized it as well as I can here but don't rely only on me because I am not the expert here! Read about it from other sources too if you want to really get what's going on.

And Haribo's has posted from her Twitter about her depression for a few months now. She didn't used to post about it at all, so it's hard to read after seeing her be so strong. She really is strong, so shit at Lezhin and with illegal uploads must really suck balls to make her upset like this.

You can find a summary of it here.

http://porifra.tumblr.com/

Ur the best!

Are there no alternatives to sites or publishing companies like Japanese manga? Honest question.

I don't understand your question. You mean for Haribo to publish? She had a contract with Lezhin. She could not publish WLATE anywhere else. For the future, she could connect with someone else. But when you ate a webtoon artist, you publish with websites. That's how it works.

*She could publish with someone else for future projects

Yeah that's what I meant for her to move to a different platform of course not with this work but future work. But yeah thabks I understand more so now

thank you so much for sharing, maybe that's why it's ending a bit early, I understand her, I wouldn't like to keep working in a company like that, well, no one would

Thanks for sharing this, I'm also buy some chapters on Lezhin for support the artists. But also I like to go mangago just for read the topics/comments, where readers talking about the manhwa xD

So.. where's my money going.. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ??? I hope all the problems will solve :(

*but also I like to visit mangago

Thank you for supporting the artists! They need us! I come here for the topics too.

Okay good, glad I answered the right question! Yeah I hope she goes with another company next time.

hi guys I didnt know I've had so many replies. Haribo is working on a new project at the moment but she will publish her work on NAVERRRR (!) not Lezhin. I'm not sure this is better for her or not since Naver is not as "international" as Lezhin, maybe the fans will decrease as well.
Haribo (and the guy who created Wolf in the house sorry dont remember the name TT_TT) are sooo underrated!!

hm so sorry to enter this late in the discussion, but - I'm kind of living under my cozy stone so I had no clue at all. I don't own a twitter or whatever-account, since my stone is VERY COZY and I'm not keen on getting lost in social media. To cut to the chase: is there any way to support Haribo now (!) - like, if I venture outside of my stone and try to purchase WLATE from Lezhin, does Haribo receive additional money? Or is the simplest way to switch over to NAVERR and stalk Haribo there?
And yes, I'm a proper adult (but without a credit card, which supposedly deducts points from my adultness, since I tried to sneak over to Lezhin but kept getting lost on how to pay - that's what comes from living under a stone, be warned!)

Yes, she makes a portion of all sales, so buying helps her!

Where did you see her post about Naver? I can do overtooning, so I will overtoon English translations for her work if she goes that route. Hopefully, she will still maintain international readers that way.

Buying WLATE from Lezhin can help, reading her work on Naver also helps as well. sorry i dont know how to use Naver either since it's 100% Korean. Why doesnt she move to Line =((( *internal cry

She wrote it on Twitter a long time ago (I only knew about it because the first translator of WLATE published the link on their Tumblr). since Haribo tweeted and retweeted so many stuff it would take a long time to find that particular tweet. I think we should wait for her to publish it on Naver first, then of course she will tweet the link on Twitter :D

I believe this is her. (Found it thanks to the Find command.)

http://comic.naver.com/artistTitle.nhn?artistId=179000

But it looks pretty inactive. Last update was 2015. She had one comic on there. I think she went to Lezhin for a reason. I looked through the BL tag in Naver out of curiosity and found some comics that I recognized that are locked behind a paywall like "Fools". And you can't actually read the chapters. The chapters are basically some text that direct you to the website where they are actually posted. Like for "Fools", it advertised Comico.

I don't know much about how Naver pays artists, so I cannot make an informed explanation. But there might be a number of things that discourages BL artists from uploading on Naver. It might be the type of content that they can upload. Also, you have to consider the general audience of Naver. If your comic cannot attract a large fan base, you won't earn money. Being a webtoon artist is a pretty unstable job, which is why Lezhin looks very appealing.

Basically, read this post to get a better understanding:

https://lezhincomics-us.tumblr.com/post/158104253887/fyi-that-anon-is-a-liar-jaynia-does-not-steal-any?is_related_post=1#notes

So just to add to this, I have a feeling that Haribo is still going to upload future works on Lezhin. That or some other premium webtoon website, like Comico. I mean, her work is popular enough that it has official English and Chinese translations. I don't think she would want to give that up.

There must be a reason for non-BL artists as well to go upload their work on premium websites, and it must be mostly because of the pay. You see shoujo-like works everywhere, and these artists probably found a stable job that way.

Yeah, that was one she started but discontinued. I don't think she has announced any plans to publish with Naver in the last year. It also seems like she's invested in the protests against Lezhin still, which indicates, to me, that she is still invested in Lezhin and has hope for things to get better. I could be wrong. She may have had plans in the past to publish with Naver, but I don't think those plans still stand. Anyway, she did say she was going to work on a new project, but I doubt it's going to happen right away. She needs a break, and Lezhin is pretty much on fire right now and they need to figure out how to save their company.

I got the same vibe when I saw her Twitter too. Her retweets about the protests and from webtoon artists namely Eun Song and michii didn't give me the impression that she wants to quit or anything. And from her replies to her fans in regards to the last chapter of WLATE, she liked the support and simply told people to "look forward to her next work". I don't think she mentioned anywhere if she was publishing someplace new.

But I agree, she needs a break from everything. From her tweets, I could tell that she's been ill and not eating well. A portion of that sickness is from her international readers unfortunately. I hope everything goes well in the end.

Yeah, that's the unfortunate reality. I agree that the international readership problems are a sizable chunk of what's been giving her a hard time. Hopefully everyone with the means to support her at all already have. I've tried to give as much support as I could, by buying all the chapters in both Korean and English. I know it's probably not much, but I hope she knows how much we all love her work in the end. It would help a lot if Lezhin kept their promises and started treating their authors better. It makes me want to throw up that they were charging that author late fees when she had cancer. I don't know if a company can sink any lower than that. Like, just thinking about it makes me see red. I feel so bad for all the authors they are treating like trash.

I dont know if I should feel happy about her continuing to work at Lezhin or not. If she does, she might become upset/stress during the process and end up having an unexpected ending for her amazing webtoon once again :/
I read on Tumblr that they said she has stated she would continue her work (that webtoon on Naver which she has left unfinished for 2 years or so). Apparently she left it in the middle of the process to join Lezhin's comic contest. (She didnt win but in the end her comic has 1 of the highest ranking on the chart haha)
Haribo sure can do much better in Japan where people are willing to buy tons of physical copies (and where legal/copyrighted matters are extremely strict), in Korea where everything is on the digital platform, being a comic artist sure is tough :(

honestly i thought that too... i hope when she's be able to draw again, and she can work with the right company/person, she will draw sequel of WLATE... i'm her fans omg and it really makes me pissed to know about it. Poor her and i wish the best for her of course....
Seriously its really sad.... really...really... ╥﹏╥

Damn it. Why do you have to make such perfect sense?

but like who caaaarreees about the picture its old news and SW needs to get over being embarrassed to be seen with JH like i get that being openly gay he’ll be bullied but their petty comments are lifetimes better than the constant life threatening psychos that keep showing up just like freaking expose the picture JH tell ya boi the damn truth and maintain communication bc your fights are a mess and unnecessary its to the point where they literally have not made a successful step ever bc they’re constantly fighting or worrying

totally agree!! Whenever I see an uke being raped so easily by the seme I was like wtf too