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so it was a joke. hope this helps! xx

We can't take a joke around this circus I'm afraid

Sure but you can't ignore the other criticism i gave towards his past actions and character and that definitely adds weight to his "jokes" to a mentally ill and poor stricken individual even in the context of a relationship, there's still some sense of consideration to your partner? I'm not gonna joke or call my loved ones or partner names especially in such a vulnerable state

Jokes are meant to be funny? Who laughed? Lol

It was only meant to make the mood lighter.Some people, even the victims, jokes around their own trauma. Yes, jokes aren't meant to be used in a serious situtation, allthough sometimes, it kinda does help to lighten up the atmosphere. Wowoon definetly knows that Seo an didn't mean that Wowoon is actually "dumbass" and he's def not offended by it. It's like telling your naughty friend or gf/bf "silly" or "stupid". It depends on people's relationship, some might not be comfortable to jokes deeply around their partner and it's fine, some take jokes seriously which shouldn't be a problem since it's normal, but some couples do like jokes even in a serious situation just to not add a problem or to lighten up the mood. Both are not a toxic relationship. Though Seo an needs to communicate with Wowoon with his own problem too, to not create more misunderstanding, that's all what Seo an is lacking. But he is a great bf for assuring and just being there for Wowoon's side. He loveshim and takes care of his needs, and vice versa

You're missing the point of what i said, the joke itself is fine, but with the added context of seo an being condescending and treating him like an object throughout the story is what i have an issue about he had the choice to be a bit more compassionate and choose his words CAREFULLY especially of all the shit he's been through the guy has been having ptsd and panic attacks his dad just died ffs, and seo an also admitted he forced himself on him AFTER he just got violated in the party that's a very questionable decision honestly, and him thinking woowon will agree with him taking him abroad UNDEFIANTLY is textbook toxic lol and yeah i do think he should communicate more but besides that what he did and has been doing is pretty jarring especially from someone who experienced SA and a toxic relationship.

If his whole personality is being a rude motherfucker with no nuance when it comes to emotional and crucial moments and in CH 70+? where's the character development? He's been selfish ever since they started dating

Yes, my apologies, I see what you're pointing out, all I'm talking about here was about the joke part, Though I can say that their relationship is kinda toxic because of Seo an's actions. I do believe that he would still get his character development, hopefully. Both of them should get a theraphy especially Wowoon who's abusive father just died infront of him, also Seo an's anxiety and his mentally abused self because of his father's pressure. And im so sorry for your past SA and abusive relationship, no one deserves to be treated like that. I was in an abusive relationship, he was a ped0phile, though good thing I'm free from that, No one should EVER experience that.That's all hope you have a Good day

I agree no one should be subjected to such actions, and i'm really sorry for your experience as well and for bringing out such a dark topic, i'm not trying to win the argument or get sympathy points but only pointing out and explaining my opinions based on my experience and reality, and hopefully these kind of dynamics doesn't get romanticized and deemed "normal" or "quirky cuz we're desensitizing people to recognize abuse from loving banter, hopefully the characters can have a development as the story goes, i'm not uncomfortable by any means reading the story as there are worse ones out there just put off, and thank you for understanding have a good day!

Jjk reference

Uh did you just spoil me?

...idk, it's the second season this, idk if after two years is considered spoiler

Nah im jk i but i stopped reading jjk from when yuuta staged the itadori assassination so you probably did spoil me

Ah no i didn't, it's way before that, it's ABT the start of shibuya

*insert kris aquino's face*

They're blood related, it's consensual and Mr. Mizuhara attempted rape twice. I know who I'm voting for.

this is unnecessarily funny lmaooo

Lmao wtf

Ok that’s hilarious lmao

Wait they slept together!? Have I forgotten the important things again!? Lmfao but regarding your message I feel the same, they're not in a relationship so...

Oof i should've put spoiler alert up there

Because if you're starting something with someone you should at least respect their feelings. Isn't he going on a date with Hwi? Didn't he realise that Hwi has feelings for him? If he was a good guy he would tell him there's no chance for now because he has eyes for other guy, so let's not go on a date but just be sex friends yet he chooses to play with his feelings and gives him hope while fucking other dude at the same time. At the end of the day someone is going to get hurt just because he couldn't stop his horny ass and make it clear. Stop with that toxic term because you use it as you please if someone doesn't agree with you and that's not how it works lol

And you're basing this off what? Raws? Without context? Without understanding shit? And as I said param is still in love with han the author is making it so obvious so how can he turn down han when he's making a move on him and he still has feelings for him? Dude was literally in love with han from the start and it's also the reason why param and hwi even met

And also IT'S JUST A DATE no commitments yet like how old do you think these people are? They are adults, Just because you agreed to a date doesn't mean you can't have sex with other people now and you're dedicating your whole body for a person u agreed a date with tf

I'm basing it on raws which I understand lol are you blind or what? If he's in love with him then why didn't he just tell Hwi he won't start anything with him? That's the point tf. You're going on a date so that means you acknowledge the other person's feelings and give it a chance. Just because he loves Han doesn't justify his actions, he choose to hurt another dude. If he now tells Hwi they can't meet thats okay, but if he continues going for both then he's nothing but a heartless asshole. Go read the raws if you can and you'll see that after everything he's not even feeling guilty or thinking on going for one as if they both were toys he can relieve himself with.

Dude it's just a date wtf are you going on about, yeah param acknowledges hwi's feelings but that does that mean that he's tied to hwi already? That he's not allowed to have sex with han anymore, and like u said u can understand raws right? Wel lucky for u but han just did a fucking flashback that probably made param empathize with him and at the heat of the moment made a decision or revived his feeling for him whatever han said i hope u can give context cuz u said u can understand raws lmao

And you're treating this as if it's a real life drama lmao u guys don't wanna read manhwa with good plot or complex plots u guys just wanna read manhwabthat goes straight to fucking and happy ever afters that sex with han might've been a good plot device for thing to come from them BUT NOOOO u guys bitching about it cuz u guys are delusional enough to think that it's hwixparam until the end.

So are these people suggesting param to hoe around yall dont need to as insensitive as param, why would you fvck with a person multiple times consensually at the same time liking someone and FVCKING HIM TOO