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I didn't read the story only started going quickly through some for a time but I want the endgame to be Tj. Idk what he did and it's probably a red flag(pls educate me) but my dumb ass doesn't see anything except tj and ian and I probably wouldn't start seriously reading it if it doesn't end that way

Spoiler i suppose !!!




TJ got men to beat up Ian multiple times causing him to fall off a roof and has manipulated him and stuff trying to trap him so he doesn’t leave and is trying to force them into an enclosed relationship when it’s obviously not what Ian wants as he has expressed it multiple times , Ian doesn’t deserve Jo but Jo doesn’t deserve Ian Ian obviously doesn’t even want a relationship and Jo wants exclusive commitment like none of them want the same thing but TJ is physically and mentally abusive while trying to get his Jo understands and offers friendship

Thank you for explaining. The solution would be TJ going to f-ing therapy cuz the shit he had done is not ok. Like ok mentally(which is the worst manipulation but it's so common) but like physically? To beat him up even tho he likes him? Dayum that's some messed up sht

I read the raws and at this point no one deserves each other, like please disperse

he thinks it’ll make Ian not want to leave the gang and disappear to a different country and shit cause he thinks Ian will come back wanting protection like girl he knows it’s you

not even surprised

have you read Revelation of Youth?? (≧▽≦)

nooo i’ll add it !! thank you :)

It is a group of haters that camps out that has been trying to slience the target auidence. IF someone says they like JK, like the story, and something different from the hive-mind they are attacked. Many of the target auidence don't write anymore.


A few as expressed liking the BDSM in chapter 34 and got attacked "disgusting freak". They are here to make others miserable to feel better about theirselves. Many are like I am here for the comment section with a mention of eating popcorn.

They try to make a defend from attacks a pov vs pov. They try to make attacking people a disagreement on the story. It is not the story. It is to get the target auidence to say sometime to degrade them for liking this story.

For some it could be them liking this story but feel guilt about it. If you talk to most of them they cant get the details straight about the story. It is like they learn it from the topic section or second hand knowledge. I don't think many has read it. If they had, they skimmed it or didn't comprended it.

I don't need to explain myself to you, kiss my phat ass

do you know how sad you have to be to keep up to date with a BL you’re just gonna complain about? you’re festering off of negative energy and i really think you should put that effort into something else for your own good because it looks sad seeing comments every update about how horrible their relationship is when you could just turn your phone off like an adult lol

you’re genuinely the only one that gets me and everything you say is facts !! people just love to hate it’s actually so sad to see they could really put this effort into something else but they just shame people for liking the things they like and claim it’s all toxic relationships while enjoying stuff like roses and champagne like read the room

LMAO

Who's bitching now??? I gave one sentence and got a TedTalk. You could not stroll into the comments, hoe

it’s porn! accept your cringe and accept your reading it for those reasons and stop defending it! it’s not even target audience bs anymore because not a single bl will ever admit its plot line has rape in it! like for the love of god there is no target demographic bl authors use it as a cheap and easy way to make the bottom dependent and it’s so fucking exhausting.

and the people screaming about it aren’t haters Jinx is one of the most popular bl rn non fucking fujoshies know about it and it’s insane that we’re known as the women who fucking enjoy reading rape fantasies and defending it as romance.

don’t act higher than thou like it’s sadder.

Jinx is sexual assault if you educate yourself. Sexual coercion is sexual assault. Rape isn’t jinx.


But even if jinx was….. research
https://www.healthyplace.com/abuse/rape/rape-fantasy-does-it-mean-you-want-to-be-raped

“Human sexuality experts emphatically state that rape fantasy is not wrong, but healthy and normal.”

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-myths-sex/202003/why-are-rape-fantasies-so-common?amp

“As you can see, forced sex fantasies have a rich psychology behind them and people may have these fantasies for wildly different reasons. In many cases, these fantasies don’t have a deeper meaning beyond someone just having an active imagination, a desire for sexual thrills, or a penchant for domination and submission. However, in other cases, they may have their roots in coping with trauma.”

https://metro.co.uk/2017/11/29/why-do-half-of-women-have-fantasies-about-being-raped-7099630/amp/

“In real-life contexts, rape – meaning sex against your will – is deeply traumatising. It’s not at all ‘sexy’. It’s an intense violation that causes high levels of distress.”

https://medium.com/sexography/can-we-fantasise-about-raping-people-687c1e296dfc


“And it’s incredibly important to note that while rape fantasies are common, this does not mean that women secretly want to be raped. There is a huge difference between acted out role-play, imagined scenarios, and real-life experiences. No one asks to be raped, no one deserves to be raped, and how common forced sex fantasies are in no way justifies unwanted sexual contact of any nature.

After research on the subject, psychologists and sexologists agree today that those fantasies are very common, completely healthy, and reveal a core element in female eroticism.
First of all, there is an important distinction between such fantasies and an actual rape experience. In no way does having the fantasy imply a desire to be raped in real life. Psychologist Michael Castleman, in his article Why Do Women Have Rape Fantasies? on Psychology Today, dismisses as obsolete the view that fantasies always reflect wishes. Therefore, women who have rape fantasies do not actually want to be coerced into sex.”

https://www.nowtolove.com.au/amp/health/sex/why-women-read-erotic-fiction-17262
“ Yet the role played by erotic fiction and fantasy is an important one, says sexologist and director of Sexology Australia, Elaine George. "Erotic fiction, in particular, enables a woman to get carried away with her sense of imagination and imaginary play," she says.

"That imaginary play can be with a lover. It can be with multiple lovers. And it can be inventing a scenario that enables her to become erotically charged.”

She may NEVER want to be with multiple lovers or could be against it in reality.

“ Why do women read erotic fiction?

Distraction and feelings of ease were identified as prime rewards associated with reading erotic novels.”

—- me again.

It’s a fantasy. Not reality. haters would do best to stop confusing the two.


It is NOT CRINGE! I am not the target audience. I think it is dull. Grow the hell up!!! Stop attacking people! People can defend it and themselves. There is no rape.now you know your other argument point is rubbish.

Stop acting higher than thou.

https://collegian.com/articles/opinion/2018/12/rego-the-psychology-behind-rape-fantasies/#:~:text=Research%20proves%20that%20these%20fantasies,in%20the%20reality%20of%20rape.


The other is from one of my topics. This is a new links. Educate yourself.

Hehehe. We can spam you with articles on how to be a better person or educate yourself on things you don’t know. We don’t have to fight you.

You are on yabbergoth’s post. Yabbergoth can block you. Then start spamming this topic a paragraph at a time or a sentence at a time of “how to be a better person”. “How it means to hate/troll”. “What are rape fantasies” I just posted 5 links And one of 6 links was on erotic fiction.
I guess explaining porn and erotica would be one thing to cover.
We have 34 chapters of jinx to cover.
I guess explaining how your language is abusive would be helpful too.
We can start curving that negative energy because you come off as a child with those childish insults.

If you’re going that far to defend a book maybe just MAYBE yknow you’re the problem?

Why are you making attacks on people, a book?
Wake up buttercup.
A rape survivor isn’t a book.
A genuine reader isn’t a book.
The target audience isn’t a book.

It is the haters trying to slience people that is the problem.
I am standing up the haters attacking people.

Are you trying to make yourself look like a fool? Good job!

Yo, Yabbergoth did you know you were a book. Lol

What kind of book are you? Goth is an indication right?

Haters are so stupid in their insults.

im genuinely loving your comments so much omg you’re amazing i swear

you’re being childish maybe you shouldn’t even be on this website, you need to put your effort into something else other than keeping up to date with a BL you obviously don’t like

nowhere did i defend it and nowhere am i acting higher than others, i just don’t see the point in keeping up to date with something that’s obviously upsetting them lol put energy into something meaningful not just crying about a BL that’ll fall on deaf ears

your barking up the wrong tree girl

I DO HAVE A NON CON KINK, and cringe is cringe and I acknowledge this shit is cringe and that’s my whole point.

you pulled out links if anyone is putting to much effort in to thsi higher than thou shit it’s you

Ah so you do know you’re wrong but your needs to feel right is largely affecting it, thanks

To wanton noodles. Who blocked me.

No you are.. First TM + SM are two married men. Not a girl.
You just outed yourself.
You are not the target audience. The target audience would not be calling this cringe.

pulling links is showing you something. The truth. It has nothing to do with being higher than thou.. that is on you see your comment. Stop trolling. You are not welcome here. blocked. You are barking up the wrong tree.

That is you cowering and showing everyone how weak you are because you are talking about yourself.

You are talking about yourself. You are only cowering and showing how weak you are.

I have written uh? twice but it will not go either.. Uh? is talking about themselves. They are cowering and showing everyone how weak they are.

I didn't see this. My bad. Thanks. I try to be as factual as I can. Haters hate it. It is sad to see how much effort they put into this. They would have learned something new if they tried, even started to learn a new language, like Japanese or Korean. I have not read "Roses and Champagne" yet. I have seen that title a few times. I will try after a few papers and a project. thx again. You seem to be genuine. So keep it up! Don't let them suppress you or harm you.

Due to user Torakaze blocking me I can assume they realize im right however is embarrassed to admit so, have a goodnight!

Nobody is arguing that reading Jinx means you want to be raped. However, the blatant excusal and downplay of rape is dangerous. Your sources don't relate to the issue of rape apologists and its normalization. Nobody is claiming your sexual fantasies make YOU a victim. You're a cis woman, in no way are you affected by the normalization of homosexual rape culture

I blocked you to mark you as a bad-faith actor who can't handle converations. You are up to no good.

You are the one to embarrassed to admit you are wrong. It is okay to be wrong. It is wrong to pretend your were right and gaslight. That is you being pathetic. Why not come back when you can handle being wrong instead of being a child about it? It is TMSM own meanings and words, you cant changed them to your pov to be right. One, you just troll here or two you did not take the time to read his meanings. You can't own up to your mistakes that you prefer to be a child about it. That is just more cowering. You are showing you are a coward hiding in the shadows.

https://www.themuse.com/advice/15-simple-life-changes-you-can-make-to-become-a-better-person


https://advice.theshineapp.com/articles/how-to-get-more-comfortable-being-wrong/

https://www.vox.com/even-better/23198698/how-to-admit-youre-wrong

nah same leave hi tora idk but I blocked you because you absolutely went off on a comment not fucking addressed to you? HAHAHAHAH

I unblocked you because it felt unfair and equally I don’t plan to participate in this chaos shit again

and on that note the same way you can’t prove who I am and what I am I can turn it back to you and just question if your lying because by all means I’m also a queer person in this queer space voicing my opinions about shit

"To wanton noodles. Who blocked me."

Then this hoe blocks MEEEEE. Mangago is deranged siteeeee

yall need to get your fingers way from that fucking block button T-T

that is true that’s one’s one me this is wanton_noodles btw just yah that’s on me HAHAHAH

Point being, your rape fantasies don't make you a victim. Nobody is arguing you want to get raped, your sources are irrelevant

imma start making alts too, I'm tired....

I say one sentence and you send paragraphs! Speaks volumes:)) I’ll let you win since you wanna so badly because im not obsessed over a BOOK (incase you forgot)

Its kinda like those one of those old "Epic Fail" compilations. Can't help but not look away.

You get blocked when you’re right btw lol

"articles on how to be a better person or educate yourself on things you don’t know. We don’t have to fight you." Beetter a person who is fight them..

better the troll attack people... book???

"Then start spamming this topic a paragraph at a time or a sentence at a time of “how to be a better person”. “How it means to hate/troll”. " better a person and what it means to be hate/trioll .. troll is for cowards..

better the troll attacking people ... book???

“What are rape fantasies” I just posted 5 links And one of 6 links was on erotic fiction.
SOmething the trolls attack on. Educating the troll to stop the attacking on people...... book????

"I guess explaining how your language is abusive would be helpful too."

explaining how your lanuage is abusive.. trolls attacking people.. book??



"We can start curving that negative energy because you come off as a child with those childish insults."
Trolls attacking people..... book??


Explain how trolls attacking people are books? TMSM is clear he is not talking about books. He is defending people from people like you. You have exposed yourself. HEHEHE HEHEHE You were wrong he is not defending the book here.

https://www.readingrockets.org/reading-101/reading-and-writing-basics/reading-comprehension

Im ngl you real life suck at grammar..ya might need that more than I do but ANYWAYS! Have fun defending a BOOK and enjoy whatever life you have (if you have one, probably dont since you’re breaking your back ass kissing and defending a BOOK)

Ay, Tora? Can you stop strawmaning and attacking nonexistent arguments? Thank you.

I would stop strawmaning and "attacking nonexistent arguments" if I was. Earth to Synfull. Earth to Synfull. Those are things I never do and your comments don't correspond here. Stop trolling.

No, some people are writers, and having more content provides clearer meaning in the messages. longer messages do not indicate my emotions. I have no opinion on this book. I am straight. I am not obsessed with this book. I only read it because my friend asked me to analyze it. I am a man who is married to a woman who loves yaoi. There is no letting me win when you completely lost.

Bitch, you sent a reading comprehension link. before that you went on a rant about how rape fantasies don't mean you want to be raped which, spoiler alert, NOBODY SAID

I am on my computer with Grammarly. Reading comprehension is not grammar. My comment wasn't an attack either.
since you did that..... " That is a trick used by debaters when they are losing an argument. The intention is to discredit what the opposition says."

First, come back to Earth.
Second, come back to Earth.
Third, those sources are relevant.
Your comments are irrelevant.

facts > your opinion.

I think you need to read it again. I didn't go off. That would be your false interpretation of my words. words don't have tone. My words don't have emotions. I don't like strangers controlling me. I do get mad when people are attacking a rape survivor. Whatever you were seeing was how you wanted to see it and not how I meant it.

think AI or textbook when reading my text. As a matter of fact. You know... Haha you have no power over me or my emotions.

I did not block you because you offended me. I blocked you because you blocked me. I returned the block. I am not here to fight. Haters don't understand that and they get nowhere with me until they are too frustrated.
I have not lied. That is not me. I have bluntly said I am not the target audience. I will defend the target audience. Your sexuality does not make you the target audience. A target audience is the intended audience that is CARTERED to. If you don't like it, if you think it is cringe and awful. You are not the target audience. It is not about sexuality or gender.

"Although yaoi is primarily targeted at young, heterosexual women, previous studies have found that bisexual and homosexual male and female enthusiasts also account for a considerable proportion of yaoi viewers/readers" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6002055/#:~:text=Although%20yaoi%20is%20primarily%20targeted,viewers%2Freaders%20%5B3%5D.

This is my last reply to you.
I sent a reading comprehension to help someone else because they are having issues here. It was genuine and not an insult.
TMSM posts quotes from experts saying rape fantasies are healthy and common that included means people don't want to be raped. It did correspond to the reply TMSM posted too.
Maybe you need that link too?? Insults are abusive language. It degrades you- insults - full of ego, childish, impulsive, and self-centered.
-ad hominem attacks. Stop using language that degrades women. Trolling only degrades the troll this topic shows it.

I’m ngl this is fucking hilarious at this point Tora you are actually research papering people’s opinions like gen step away from the computer do you not have children to watch? as you pointed out in my fucking topic you have two kids go watch your kids

I should had told you I had unblocked after you unblocked. But I blocked bad-faith actors. No that means it is not hilarious. That means this is upsetting or you are trying to get to me. Since that was lie.... we will go with the second one.

That is a bad-faith actor comment...... It is abusive and disgusting.

I have researched trolls, people's behaviors, etc., not people's opinions. Stop being controlling. they are sleeping and at their grandparents. Saturday at 3:33 am .. lol.

- insults - full of ego, childish, impulsive, and self-centered.
-ad hominem attacks.
- no rational arguments
-trying to force people off.
I don't tolerate people like you.

Take your own advice because no good-faith person would suggest that or behave like that. You are exposing yourself as a hater. That "invalidate my opinions" comment just clicked into place I tried not to view you as a hater but that makes sense as your lies were being exposed by the truth. I don't invalidate someone's opinions. You exposed yourself here. Research what it means to be a hater or a troll. Research "trolling is for cowards" Have fun learning about yourself. I will never be offended by a coward.

This is how yknow you got under someones skin when they send paragraphs

I’m just gonna delete my message here I acknowledge I came in to an area where we would have never agreed and Tora in my topic is starting to drive me nuts

have fun enjoying this? It’s not like I said I didn’t like this either? HAHAH LIKE I LIKE THIS BL THO IF IT WASN’T CLEAR?

idk lol have fun peer reviewing and research toppicking the hell out of litteral comics it was fun to read and participate in this beef but ya’ll are kinda nuts peace!

Tip: read the conversation before jumping to false conclusions where you are lying and gaslight Tora.

False. That is not an indication. You are being pathetic.

fuck I’m offically a gaslight girlboss now holy shit HAHAHA

Its healthy FOR YOU, Tora. There is still drastic effects such as desensitization of rape and higher rates of rape proclivity. You're a cis women, you will never endure the backlash faced when abuse and rape are normalized in homosexual relationships, nobody gives a fuck that its "healthy" for you to have a rape fantasy

Thank you for the power I didn't know I was articles, facts, or studying to be a sex expert. That was a missed opportunity. Get paid to study sex. Rape fantasy is not my kink. I am a rape crisis counselor. That is a cluesless comment.

i’m not a woman defending rape fantasies i’m a person who doesn’t think someone should read something that obviously effects them negatively and apparently i’m the bad guy? it’s like an abusive relationship you’re genuinely really sad and i wish you well you’re the one who thinks you’re higher than while also hating yourself you mention people romanticising rape fantasies and being known as a woman who reads rape but you just said it’s your kink….so you’re projecting and pushing your insecurities on me i’m not the one who’s a woman reading and romanticising rape fantasies it’s you :| take your own advice and remove the cringe that you’re reading and want to read since it would…make you a woman who romanticises rape which is apparently what you are and aren’t choose what side ur on girl and stop getting so insecure in my comments ! NEXT

she can’t face the music that she’s just projecting