I feel so fucking bad for him. The chapters after the 3rd one kept getting harder a d harder to read. He didn't derseve any of that, yet it kept getting worse and worse by no fault of his own, and life and everyone around him made it their life's mission to shit on this poor soul. (ﾉಥ益ಥ)ﾉ
Like he doesn't deserve this. Han is a fucking asshole that's taking advantage of someone with lower position at work, and someone with lower experince than him.
And he is a fucking liar and a hyporicte.
Getting mad when he isn't trusted but does NOTHING to gain that trust, and is ACTIVLY doing things to get the other person to mistrust him. If someone asked you to fuck you 13 times to keep a job at the company, would you trust them? Would you be thankful??
And he is fucking awful dom/sadits whatever the fuck you want to call him, since he clearly has no moral or rules. He doesn't explain the rules, he doesn't reassure him, he doesn't give him a safe word as a way out. And when he finally does HE DOESN'T RESPECT IT. He is constantly pushing and pushing. Like, the guy saw him crying, wailing and trashing to run away from him, and it didn't occur to him that there could be an underlying reason for that reaction? Like the sheer panic in his eyes. And what does he do? He tells him to shut up and to take it.
I hope who ever thinks he is a green flag, never has to experince having such a "green" flag for a lover. Like, are we reading the same story??? ლ(ಠ益ಠ)ლ
"he doesn't reassure him" ?
i think ml is plenty gentle already outside of when hes doing bdsm play. he comforts mc lots and at least does the basic stuff of ointment application and tries to take care of mc outside of their play/sex. so i dont see how youre saying that he doesnt give a shit abt mc.
and u cant just expect people to know everything. mc never explained anything so its kinda unreasonable to say that ml should be able to assume something happened to him before that causes him to cry every time. maybe he could have some doubts, but if mc kept quiet about it the entire time u cant really blame ml for not knowing.
but i do agree that its kind of iffy that ml gave a safe word being a kiss, but then ignores mc when he did it right before they had sex. but also, considering the deal theyre having, the ml is having the upper hand. he gave mc a position in his team and opportunities to work, so mc is expected to return the favour through sex. so the fact that ml lets him off quite often is already kinda generous to mc to a certain extent?
im not saying i agree with this behaviour, but really for a bl like this with a certain deal that mc has to pay ml back for, the ml is already doing a lot for the mc to try and comfort and ease him into being more okay with the bdsm/sex. if u just took a look at other legit red flags, they really wouldnt give a shit
ML just a gaslights asshole. I promise you he won't change until the end. Because when MC just need a simple answer or a reason, he'll blame MC for having such question or thought then play dramatic shit show of how that will affecting his life. Girl, save your sanity.
Mean no harm, but your reasoning is like making excuse of why it is okay for a higher up allowed to harass anyone for some circumstances.
ahh thats def not what i meant but i get what u mean TT but like the diff is the deal they made - he alrd knew what was gonna happen if he accepted. meanwhile in a workplace, ure not allowed/supposed to harass them in the first place
i think the deal btwn the mc n ml was clear enough to show that he wont be nice n stuff n he also explicitly stated that the kind of sex he wants is diff from most (w pain or smth, iirc)
so if he wanted out of the sex = out of the deal
in a workplace if he didnt want to do his work = out of his contract
don't rly explain this well but hope u get what i mean
Yea I get it. More or less, it was MC who brought this situation into himself. I know that life is not easy cotton candy, but could he find the better workplace and respect himself??
Then again, he has depression, trauma, and all.
you read a BDSM manhwa bruh tf you mean he deserve that . .
But the reason for all the crying so much in almost every scene IS BECAUSE of the ML. Like ok he conforts him, while also being the reason for those tears AND while telling him he is such a bother because of all that crying. Like you can't say in the same breath that he reassures him, while in the second he is actually berating him for being such an inconvenince.
And you say MC doesn't say stuff, would you??? The person you respected, out of nowhere asked to fuck you 13 times to keep your job, while half a day prior they were berating you and calling you naive. Why in in any freaking multiverse would you feel comfortable enough to tell them anything?? While they also keep saying how you are a chore, naive, inconvenince etc. Would you feel comfortable telling them something private?
And that argument can be said to ML to. People say he is just obsessed with MC. Well he sure fucking shows it in a waird ass way. Like don't you all abuse your loved ones (sarcasam). He doesn't explain ANYTHING to MC. Reason for 13 saturdays, how he should act, the way to stop the play. MC didn't even know what a sexual play was. How more fucking inexperinced can you get?? And ML even remarks on that, but does he do anything to adress it? No.
More often than not, he is taking out his anger onto him.
And your last point. The "other red flags" are just as bad as him, but in their own way. Just because he isn't holding a gun to his head or hanging a million dollar debt over his head doesn't make him a saint. Re read the manhwa and try to see the moments where he comforts him. I can guaranteed 8 out of 10 times will be caused by him. After he pushed MC too far even when MC told him to. Sorry mean nothing and comfroting is empty gesture when you keep repeating the offence that cuases the need to say sorry or to comfort the MC.
I said he doesn't deserve non of the things that happened to him? I didn't say he deserves any thing that has happened to him thus far.
ok yeah i see ur point now, thanks for taking the time to reply again. n ya i agree mostly that he isnt a green flag cuz hes the one inflicting pain and causing mc to cry in the first place but abt mc not saying anyt;; yeah its understandable why he didnt say it, but u still csnt blame the ml for that since mc didnt say anyt. im not saying mc SHOULD, aft all he isnt in a position to trust ml, but since he didnt say anyt then idt ml can be blamed much for not knowing
Have these authors never played RPG games? Easiest solution was to lose their ranking as a guild and just turn into a green guild.
There are usually 2 types of guilds, green ones that don't participate in open world pvp and red guilds that can participate in open world pvp. Green guild cannot pvp in open world BUT they also cannot be attacked by other players that are members of the red guild. Red guild can pvp in open world but that also means that others can also kill their members in open world.
Most often there is some kind of guild type of pvp but that a different part of the game (and map), it's not open world so it's not like ppl can ambush you.
The easiest solution was to just turn green for a while. They would probably lose their ranking because mostly red guilds can rank since it takes into account how many pvp points you get.
Also, as someone who plays a healer in alsmot every rpg I have played, I'm yet to see a game make a healer that can out dps any other dps class. It's impossible because of all the advantage rouge/assassin classes have or ranged classes such as archer, gunslinger etc.
You can usually out heal the damage they deal but what good does do when you get stunned every few second?
Only game that I've played that had a healer that could deal a decent amount of damage was Celes Arca, and it wasn't even game where you could play against other players, it was a old style pixel RPG. Cleric (later upgraded to Grand Sage) had AOE (area of effect) skills that could kill large amount of enemies quickly, but again there were stronger classes.
Only other game Ive seen that has a pseudo dps healer is Revelation online with Occulist that's again, not a healer. It's a dps (damage dealer) but has skills that heals themselves. So again, it's a dps that just has healing abilities, while their real healing class Spirit Shaper has almost Zero chance of winning any pvp match.
Kinda ranting here, not really relevant to the story, just wish this kind of story was possible in real life games because I'm sick and tired of my favorite class always being on the supportive side and having to rely on others for help when Leveling up at the beginning og the game. I want to be over powered too while healing as well! >.<
It’s not that deep
Most readers of this genre that I know in real life are not gamers at all. So, maybe the authors either aren't gamers themselves or they cater to their "not so savvy" readers and simplify things.
Fr a healer win a pvp is too unreal lol
Literally said at the end that it's not serious and that I'm just ranting and being salty because I WISH these kinds of damage dealing healer classes are a thing in real life games but sadly they never are.
Well, the game i play has healers who can dps and ive had parties be carried by healers once we were all downed. People often talk about a certain healer class having to switch to dps’ing
Im a dps main plus occasional tank, and healers are sooo vital to good partys
Whilst of course a healer isnt going to out dps a dps, but neither would a dps out tank a tank and so forth
But they can all make up for it with their other skills even if its not as good as the dedicated class
Imo Healer classes aren't as weak as a lot of stereotypes make them out to be
But after playing good mmorpgs, ive come to realize there are a lot of flaws or lack of experience in these kinds of stories that i didnt notice so much before getting into good mmorpgs more, but it also makes sense if they also wouldnt want to rip ideas straight from games
I used to play Dragon Oath and tbh Lotus healer class was OP as heck. But yeah Healers are usually awful for pvp.
Under the desk? Why is it glowing, and he was looking in that direction at the last pannel
He was looking at the ring. If you remember in his flashback, when he was staying with the church, Choi Mugin's son stole a ring from his dad and gave it to him. That same kid is begging for more of his dick.
Can it really be called your translation if it's clearly done by MTL with little to no proofreding/editing? Just slapping those sentences into basic free grammar checker would show you where you have spelling mistakes or where you should use a different expresion.
Stop acting like a victim of some henious crime, it's not like someone uploaded over you, the other person put up a notice (not even a chapter) for the OFFICIAL chapters. Fan translations can (and do) coexist with official translations on this site.
I've read my fair share of shitty MTL novel translations, but at least people that post them edit them so they at least make sense grammatically.
And wtf is your obsession with kremit drinking tea?? Are you good?
Talk to me if you can spell "Kermit" right, but that's none of my business. Kermit drinking tea.
This art style reminds me so so much of Lilith's Cord. Is it the same artist? (but working for a different author or something?)
It actually is the same author!!
O that's cool. I was just Confused because it wasn't added ath the authors work when you look up Lilith's cord. Usually it has added any other work the author did in the section "Author's other works"
Hyung, slap some fucking sense into your lil bro. Like I hope Tak talks to his hyung, and he looks at him, all disgusted and slap him "I didn't rise my younger bro to be a piece of shit like this" KNOCK SOME SENSE INTO HIM
Good, now make him beg. Make him crawl on all four.
I can't anymore, I had to say it
His obsessive love for Yehwa is tainting his mind and he isn't thinking rationaly.
Doesn't he understand that the moment he banishes Baeaksa from Yehwa's body, he will be again bound to the whore house and abuse like an object?
Muyeong has shown that he is useless and that he cannot save Yehwa from working in that place, he cannot escape with him.
The only reason why Baeksa isn't abused right now is because they fear his power. If not for that power he would share the same fate as Yehwa, maybe even worse considering he is now a completely new person that they haven't tainted yet, so it would be more amusing for their sick and twisted minds. He also looks more "exotic" because of being a demi drake and his new look.
That power is the only thing keeping them from abusing him the same way they did with Yehwa (or even worse).
The moment Mugyeon removes Baeksa's soul from his step fathers body, he will just condemn him to get abused over and over again (probably as an excuse to pay back for all the things Baeksa has done).
He isn't really thinking about what's best for Yehwa, he is only being selfish because of his guilt for not being there to help him. But yet again he is failing him, because of his selfish desires. Baeksa isn't hurting Yehwa, quite the opposite, right now he the one suffering the same fate that plights Yehwa's body.
Baeksa staying in Yehwa's body is the best course of action right now for Muyeong. No one can touch or defile his step father anymore, and his soul can finally be at rest. He is still alive, but doesn't feel pain or humiliation anymore.
Did he not think the reason Baeksa was able to enter Yehwa's body, is because Yehwa wanted him to? That he as tired of it all? That he just had no will left to live?
I understand that all of them have lived (and still do live) tragic fates, but Muyeong just keeps making things worse decisions for the person he supposedly loves.
this what i thought too, unfortunately muyeon's obsession will make him can't think further. i think yehwa should just get possessed by demi drake or remain died forever
Agree with every word. It's also a shame, even if he has every right to be, that even Yehwa is furious that Baeksa possessed his body and doesn't see the bright side.
But we know little of what is going on for Yehwa at the moment, so we can't speculate much either.
Read the raws dudette, Muyeon will stick by Baeksa.
And why would I do that when I clearly can't read Korean (seeing as I'm on this site) ? It would just be wasted effort and I still wouldn't understand what is going on. And some people want to wait for releases
Hello, there is this thing called MTL you can translate yourself using Papago or Google Translator. Don’t be lazy.
Yehwa isn't mad at Baeksa for not being grateful for possessing his body lol
Baeksa is reliving Yehwa's trauma via lucid dreaming that is also messing with him physically. He's showing Baeksa what he had to live through and I can only assume the reason why is linked to Baeksa's ascension.
It's also why he still keeps Muyeon around despite being perfectly capable of protecting himself from potential harm. Yehwa's memories and Muyeon's connection to them are the keys to Baeksa becoming a full-fledged dragon.
I see what you mean and it makes total sense, but Yehwa looked down at Baeksa in the memory -- meanwhile Baeksa was murmuring to Muyeong that his stepfather was there -- and told the men to play one more round of Hide The Sausage when Baeksa clearly wanted all that to end. If anything, Yehwa would probably sympathize had it been anyone else, but instead he chose to make it worse. It really looked like anger to me.
its not that important to read raws immediately lmao if they just want read english translation then let them be, why are u forcing them to read the translation just bcs something like this. "dont be lazy" well everyone have different priorities and real life outside reading comics
Yeah, I'd be pissed, too, if I lived every single day of my life being relentlessly drugged and gangraped till I died lol
His anger is towards how unfair his life was and how Muyeon never protected him. We see this during the first memory scene where he tricks Baeksa into murdering Muyeon via delusion. He's tricking Baeksa with illusions of his lived experiences 'cause-- I'm guessing here-- he's basically a vengeful entity atp.
Yehwa only holds contempt for everyone. There is no sympathy towards anyone-- especially Muyeon for some reason we don't know yet.
We also don't know for sure if Yehwa wasn't just a stand-in for someone else who had said the same thing from the memory. It's hard to explain in a way that makes total sense since I suck with articulating shit, but basically someone had said that to Yehwa during that time and he was basically taking that place in the memory as a message.
So, once again, he isn't mad that Baeksa isn't grateful to be possessing his body, he's holding contempt in general for how he was treated. And if you meant that Yehwa doesn't like the fact that he's being possessed by Baeksa, I'll refer to the previous chapter where Baeksa referred to Yehwa's body like an empty vase. He was pretty much already dead and had given up on living. It'd be pointless to get pissed off now if his soul is now free to pass on now that Baeksa has his body.
Yeah and that same MTL can't translate shit. If there is any kind of mataphore or word play it becomes gibberish you can't understand. So why would I waste effort doing that and still not understand what is being said?
That is not true in all cases. Also u have a brain you can use logic to make the sentences have sense
Dude can you just back the fuck off?? Like seriously, can you comperhand that some people don't want to go to sketchy Korean sites to read raws when the story is already uplodaing here in English? Sure if the story is not longer updating and is abandoned, I will go and try to read it, because ther eis no other option.
Like why tf are you so pressed that people don't want to go and read raws?
Maybe u should actually support the author and buy it in English hahahahahhaha u could actually buy it legally in Korean too
Bro you're also reading this illegally, if they don't want to read the raws let them be. you're a fucking eyesore, you're ruining their discussion stfu
I agree with you also maybe the reason why ml really wants to bring his stepfather is because he's so guilty for something we don't know yet and he maybe thinks that once the stepfather is back he'll get amends not realizing that he's only doing harm for his father. I'm hoping for deeper reason on why ml acts like this not just because he loves his stepfather, so far the author's doing a great job on stirring my curiosity with the current flow and art of the story
This is the reason why nobody's waiting for you in your home your a fcking bitch