I was one chapter in, saw Yuwon, and I was like boy he looks like Jimin. It didn't help that InSecret has 7 members as well. Plus, I ship Jikook before I started reading this. As I kept reading, I can't get the thoughts out of my mind and started sering Dojin as Jungkook. Gosh. It's just JiKook for me now.
(also in the idol sport tournament chapter, their lightstick is just like Army Bomb, or is it just me?)
get out of your imagination, it's not good in there
also on a more serious note, don't project your fetishes onto jimin and jungkook and stop overlooking their relationship. your actions may negatively affect not only jimin and jungkook, but bts as a whole.
i hope you understand that there is a fine line between fiction and reality that you should never cross.
stay safe! always wear a mask! and get vaccinated!
finally someone that Stans jikook. also its not fetishizing. Korean army often ship them too as well any many army around the world, its just western people thinking that they are "better" and just want to follow what most idiots say on tiktok and other sns. there is nothing wrong with you shipping them as long as it isn't harming others. the boys haven't come out, and they haven't denied either. so one persons perception could be different from another. its not fkng fetishizing, so don't listen to idiots that haven't even graduated high school yet.
in this example, they are literally fictional fkng characters, you can do what you want to them. there are people that think they are "morally superior" and like to pick at people. ignore them and enjoy whatever the fuck you want. Also to add, its funny how Yuri isn't considered fetishizing but bl is ... like sis/bro these genres are popular af in Japan and Korea ... why tf you think these artists are making these. and y'all being 49 chapters in to put your stupid fucking comments to put people down... there's better things you can be wasting ur time on. worry about irl problems than going on the web to be problematic with ur uneducated ass' :)
It is fetishising when you’re reflecting characters of a BL story onto real life people. Idc if you ship Jikook but if you’re comparing them to characters of a story, it IS fetishising. You’re inherently sexualising Jung Kook and Jimin by comparing them to the characters of this story and that’s not okay.
what alot of people seem to forget is that a lot of voice actors for anime, literally va for bl shows. they make bl drama cds. they do lots of bl shit and genuinely have no problem with it, so why tf is western culture gonna try and act like they know another culture. please, all of need to educate yourselves before trying to come preach to a bunch of people they've never met, just to make themselves feel better
they simply stated that there are similarities they've found that remind them of the two. and you seem to forget that a lot of authors write fanfic of their favorite celebrities. so answer me, honest to god, even though we all know you'll lie and say whats "right" to make yourself seem superior, if this was girl on girl in this situation, would you say its fetishizing
But that has nothing to do with Jikook??? There’s nothing wrong with consuming BL or GL content at all. However when you make something that’s not inherently sexual (like Jikook), sexual there is a problem because the boys are clearly not comfortable with it. I’m an Army myself and I read both BL and GL - like I said before, there’s nothing wrong with liking Jikook but you shouldn’t compare them to BL characters because that’s degrading. This ISNT a fanfiction and that’s the main difference. I’m not trying to be a moral saviour or anything like that but comments like yours is what gives the BL community a bad reputation.
word for word, they literally said they shipped jikook before this. they just found similarities along the way. so honest to god please just keep ur annoying ass thoughts to yourself and stop trying to sound intelligent and put down others because of their interests. I don't know why you're trying to teach people about morals on the internet in the first place ...
okay 1. its an idol group, obviously like any other fkng celeb, they arent going to show their personal lives like that. you don't know what their lives are beyond what they do show us. yes Im an army too and I care for them just as much. but 1. you don't know if they are possibly gay. they live in a fkgn country that is very homophobic, its hard to even come out to begin with, now imagine a whole country. 2. so basically because we don't know if they are gay or straight, and they did some day come out gay, are you saying oh that its disgusting for those that thought that before because everyones perceptions are different? like dude all they said was that they saw similarities, this person could mean looks, or personalities, connections with one another. all im saying is that many fans like you like to think that your opinion matters more than others and its annoying af. and no sorry sis but its not fans like me trying to defend someones harmless interest from a fucking supremist, that make the community look bad. its funny how all the community didn't look so bad until western culture took it to tiktok to act like fucking idiots to make the community look bad.
I apologise if it might seem like I’m trying to seem superior but I’m genuinely not. I’ve been reading BL for years- before it even became popular on tiktok. There’s nothing wrong with having your own interests and I completely respect that. But reflecting fantasies onto real life people came be harmful and that’s coming from someone who is from the LGBTQ+ community and from someone who lived in Asia for a large part of my life.
don't take offense cause sorry but that's usually everyones response. suddenly you are all of the above. not saying you're not, cause if you are great for you idc, just saying inmost cases. I've also been reading for +years, so idk what that has to do with anything but go off ig. but again like I said in my post, this whole thing comes mainly from bxb. no one calls it fetishizing when its gxg irl. and like I said shipping is also considered for couples where its boy and girl. shipping is literally just seeing two people that are compatible in any way you want them. if I think its so sexy to see Chris Hemsworth with his wife, then is that fetishizing? its funny how people wanna pull out the fetish card when its boy and boy anything.
also jikook doesn't show anything sexual irl because why tf would they. that's their own privacy just as any other couple would. also they are idols. I don't think people in general understand how fkng tight up the ass their companies have to be to protect their images. and knowing that they don't show anything sexual of the sort, knowing that this person was a jikook Stan before, you should see that when they said similarities more and more, besides looks, wtf else could they have been talking about. this person just made their own similarities of their own from their own perception. not something you had to interpret as sexual.
Ok. Where do I start...
I'm sorry if my words came out as festishizing and overlapping two real people into fictional characters especially in sexual regards. But please don't just assume I scream Jikook in their lives, on their official social media accounts (cuz I have seen some doing that, in VLive especially, and I think that's the kind of shippers that have a problem knowing the line between reality and fiction). Also, I ship them in a platonic way, specifically Jikook, ya know with their dynamic chemistry. I found it amusing that one character just looks similar to Jimin in my eye, and then, boom, other characters starts becoming similar in my eyes as well. So, I just commented kinda assured that BTS won't ever come across my comment on a pirate manga site.
Just side note, I'm kinda uncomfortable with BTS members x Your Name fanfics as well. But I let them do their thing as I did mine, because we do it on platforms which BTS members have very little to no likely chance to come across these themselves. (like AO3, Wattpad, and Tumblr) (Twitter is risky on that note)
Long mumbles short. I see Jikook in these characters, purely on the basis of appearance. So, yeah, no need to get heated over such topic at this site, I think. But still I'd like to offer my apology to those who get offended. And next time, just thumb down me and proceed with your reading.
Have a nice day ahead.
okay lmao imma join this discussion with a hot take - shipping real people who are not publically together is fucked up, period. ESPECIALLY when you're making it sexual, and even more so when you're straight up teasing or telling the people involved about how much you like that pairing. Human beings are not unfeeling characters, and idk why you think idols don't know about how fans ship them. Like nori said, there are fans who even scream ship names on vlives or otherwise push their fantasies onto the people involved in the pairing (which is very not okay!!!). I've been shipped with a friend I saw purely as a friend before, and that made me feel incredibly uncomfortable around him and irritated at my friends doing that. At least I had the option to call my friends out on it and say it wasn't okay; however, because an idol's image makes or breaks their career, idols can't even say anything if shipping makes them feel uncomfortable. I mean, many don't even have the freedom to date because fans will get jealous (like wtf?)! I think instead of trying to call out Simp4seonghwa for being "pretentious" for their opinion (and honestly, I think you're the one being quite holier-than-thou here) maybe check your own actions and try to understand where they are coming from? I get why people ship other people - it can be a lot of fun - but like... maybe just put yourself in that situation try to understand how the people being shipped might feel.
I also have no idea why ur bringing up gxg shipping? That's not okay either? And personally maybe it's cause I'm not super involved in celebrity fandoms but i haven't ever really come across that happening; that said i'm pretty sure people who don't like real life bxb shipping would feel the same way about real life gxg shipping. And guess what? It's the same with gxb shipping! Or any other combination of genders! If they aren't dating, don't make them uncomfortable by imagining them sexually or shipping them super publically.
Okay 1. I’m not telling them to go to celebrities and scream in their face about the ship. That’s wrong. Just like y’all said. I agree with that. But I’m saying for them to just put their comment about a ship, which they stated was mainly about their looks and their dynamic chemistry, is not wrong to feel that way on any cites that they are likely to never come across. I’m not saying I go and scream at them about ships either. Yes there are crazy af fans that do that. And yes celebs are probably uncomfortable with it. But there are other celebs that aren’t. So you can’t speak for all of them cause you don’t know. Yes I know that they are aware of shipping. They do it for fan service sometimes. Like dude that’s just how the fucking world works, that’s how they make more money. More publicity sometimes. I don’t want to sound like I’m contradicting myself either because I stand on all that I said. I simply see it from many perspectives because I’m not so narrow minded. I just see a lot of people putting down others for reading bl sometimes. Shipping. And it’s annoying for people to be scared to talk about it because there’s people that’ll quickly be like ew that’s gross. And from the beginning I knew that nori wasn’t shipping jikook sexually from her comment. So everyone commenting omg don’t fetishize, like don’t be quick to assume when they didn’t even say anything about it sexual using them. Again. A ship is for fun. You can do whatever with that. As long as ur not forcing it on the celebs or anything bc yes that’s weird and wrong. Just like on vlive. I just wanna know ur opinion. Like personally, do you not ever fantasize about anything. Like some girls fantasize about being with a tall af buff af guy. Like is that fetishizing? Or a guy fantasizing about being with another guy that’s in to bdsm. Or any pairing you can put together. Is that fetishizing? Just a genuine question. Cause people do that all the time. Is fantasizing about being in a 3sum fetishizing? And another thing. Like this story, Insecret, it’s about a group of idols. The author created a story about a group. They don’t say who the group is. It’s just a group. And two of them members like each other. This author created a story from their own mind. It very well could have been that they got inspiration from irl and created a story. Or they could’ve completely made it up from their own mind. You don’t know, so are you calling the author out for fetishizing too ? What if they saw a group and thought that those two members would be cute as a couple. They aren’t sitting there screaming at those two members omg you would be great together. No, they sat down and wrote a story. So is that fetishizing?
I feel like this will go on longer even after Onodera's confession. Like how they still have to tackle the problem of their relationship being found out by their family as in Junjou. Maybe some character development of Onodera will shine when it's time to face with his family concerning his relationship with Takano. And they will probably have to face it more harshly than UsaMisa couple.
Sekaiichi is still my fav piece of BL even after all these year. I first read this back in 2015 when I just hit 15 and about to graduate from highschool. I do get frustrated at times but Onodera is so cute so I just can't be harsh to him lol. Takano-san, I feel you.
Celebrities can do date in real life, and can get married secretly, bruh. Fans are not exactly entitled to know every private aspect of their lives. Fans usually tend to push their ideals on the celebrities and just get themselves disappointed and outraged when they don't turn out to be real.
It's just plain toxic in my opinion. Srsly, are you a fan cuz you wanna just date him (as if you had chance in the first place, it's even less than SSR Gacha rate) or do you wanna cheer him on as he works for his dream.
Unless they are doing some hideous, illegal crimes in backstage, we are supposed to continue cheering on if we truly enjoy what the content they made for us. Celebrities should not be worrying about their normal human relationships as they are committing a grave crime.
Eno sure is earning himself a rank on most hated characters in BL. Regardless of how fucked up you are or you feel, that doesn't give you a right to make other people as fucked up as you. Oh well almost the whole school is fucked up anyway. I always feel a lump in my chest after every chapter. Need to cleanse that out with some fluff.
Alex wanting to be a donor is not the problem. The fact that he said so easily how he would be ivolved with the child's life afterwards depending on the situation. If only he didn't rub it in Cole's face how much he wanted his own children. It'd make me insecure as heck, like he will be fully conscious that he is the father and vice versa the child will also feel that. Then what'd that make me, an outsider? Also the guilt and the burden that I couldn't give him what he wants so badly, a child of his own, would be slowly eating me away, as I watched them interact. Yes, I ain't no saint. So I'd rather fall out now than ruining two families many years later on.