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honestly, 100% me during my reading... it all seemed so forced :(

Its a shit total shit ╮(￣▽￣)╭

agreed

Banana fish? What's that?

HAHAHAHA true

Another great manga, more shounen ai tbh, that's all about crime/violence/mafia as main plot and such, it recently even got an anime adaptation and is a great read

Oh boy, highly recommend. it’s the series of the century, both manga and anime.

Ok I'm on it friend

Did you check it out?

Just finishing these last 3 then I'm on it it is in my want to read list

Go watch the show first. Then read it. It was released this year with 24 episodes. last episode was aired last week.

meant to upvote whoops

Even if it is realistic situation what seme has done is pathetic and horrible and he is an asshole. Yuki stood there strongly people will praise him because he was worth praising seme chickend out and gave up, because of him two people suffered I will call him an asshole.even in real life if someone hurt the other because of his selfishness and is coward enough to stand out for their love because of society norm and make his partner suffer for eight years he is considered as asshole.
And I don't know where is the comparison came from.i don't read any of them but I am Pretty sure no one think that sangwoo is an angel . there genre are different here people see manga as how it is portrayed.

Lol you really haven't seen much of these people who think sangwoo is their lord and savior. You will throw up and send them to a mental institution. Yes what he has done is really retarded but forgiveness comes when the person who has truely felt the guilt. Guilt is worse than anger because anger is short term emotion unlike the feelings of guilt.

More then his guilt.yuki's pain of eight years was more to me.again evn if he is guilty he is hateful and people will hate him for what he have done . A cheater cheats he live his life in guilt but that's does notale his cheating right it's still hateful.and disgusting and he is an asshole for that same with the seme ok he is guilty now took him eight years but oh well he is portrayed like that so I will believe it.but still what he has done is hate full and people will bash him about it.

Oh and haha maybe then I am sorry but I don't know anything about these two mangas.

That doesn't make his*

Haha I'm one of those weirdos!! This isn't the place to discuss another manga but I love Sangwoo/Yoonbum. In the real world I would call the police and hope Sangwoo rots in prison. But because it's just a story I love seeing their twisted relationship. You can lock me in a mental asylum if you want haha but I love their ship because fiction gives us a place to indulge in that kind of thing.

But I agree completely with what you said above about this manga and the seme here. He feels so bad for what he's done, it was a stupid mistake and nothing more.

Hello again. I see now why you asked that question in the other thread. You make a good point about characters who shouldn't be forgiven too easily, but I love flawed characters. I think a character can be flawed and that it adds to the beauty of a manga. Even if Yuuki forgives him too easily, I think it shows the beauty of their love and the strength of Yuuki's character to see the good in Akira, despite his mistake. I also don't think it needs to be reflective of reality. If I was Akira's friend in the real world I'd be like NOPE DON'T FORGIVE HIM DON'T TRUST HIM. But because it's just a story I can indulge even in the flaws of their relationship and really enjoy it for what it is.

Hello and I get your point .you love him as a character where I hate him as a person he was potrayed .you loved as how his character is made with flaws and I hate it as how much of an asshole he is for what he did .

*Yuuki's friend

Yeah I think that's a good way to put it :)

I don't know if you guys are disagreeing or saying same thing I am so confused .Σ( ￣□￣||)

Haha a bit of both! That's the beauty of manga where we can have different interpretations but agree on some things. I love the seme even with his flaws but Sakata doesn't like him because of his flaws. In my view they're both valid responses and it goes to show how good this manga is.

This isn't Caste Heaven of Killing STalking, which start dark and with characters who are clearly having major issues (mental, emotional, vicious, masochistic) in a sick setting.

This started sweet and fluffy and then went hard, which is fine--the author already gave us a hint that while the seme has strong love feelings, he's the kind who runs way, like he did after their first kiss. He just "disappears" for a while. So the author did give us a hint of the kind of person he was: a coward.

But my problem isn't that he has worried thoughts about losing Yuuki or that he worries about whether he wants kids, etc. My problem is that he ran away NOT because of society, but he feared losing Yuuki..that he couldn't handle loving that much. So, that was HIS weakness and he made Yuuki suffer. How long were they apart, because it seems to me you realize before 8 or 10 years that you cheated a woman and betrayed your lover and need to make amends. He was always thinking about what HE wanted and didn't stop to think "What will I sacrifice to make Yuuki happy." Yuuki gave more than he got in this relationship. The seme always got what he wanted.

He wanted Yuuki, he got it.
He wanted to dump Yuuki, he got it.
He wanted to marry and seem normal, he got it.

So, I'd like to see him suffer a lot more and for him to have to WIN Yuuki back, to regaina trust, not just hi, love you, hug hug. THAT is the part that pisses me off. A person betrays you, mistreats you (he was cruelly cold to Yuuki for a while before dumping him) and then betrays and dumps his wife, and then he just gets what he wants like that, so easily?:

I want him, dramatically, to earn it. Drama is not real life. STory is shaped. Story gives the reader emotion and catharsis and a sense of justice a lot of times. Here, we only see him looking depressed for a bit, then cries one night--good, that's an excellent start--then he, bam, gets Yuuki with a handful of I Love Yous.

No, for this to satisfy me dramatically, he needs to EARN Yuuki's trust and love back. He doesn't just GET it, cause he gets what he wants.

Just my own sense of why I get pissed at their reunion. It's a beautiful setting, the line isn't white (limited), everything on the ground is white (beautiful symbol)---but it's "cheap forgiveness" in my book. He hasn't atoned for the suffering he caused Yuuki. He didn't suffer enough in return to make up for screwing with TWO people.

Totally agree like it wasn't all the seme's fault, part of it was society and it probably got to his head but he regretted it and I'm pretty sure the uke at some point felt/ had similar thoughts which is why he forgave him so quickly

wonderfully said.

No. Forgiveness comes when someone WANTS to forgive the other person, FULL. STOP. That Yuuki forgave him is a testament to YUUKI NOT to the seme. If the seme has his faults as you claim to believe why aren't you then, in turn, acknowledging Yuuki's strengths rather than praising the SEME for it? Thanks. Can't have it both ways, sweetie.

Good grief! I wasn't comparing I was saying that real assholes are on the other side.

Castle heaven is different story from killing stalking.

I read the raws and they live together until they die.. What does that tell u? That akira has indeed learned his lesson from guilt. Everyone makes mistakes in their life and that is ok when they work to fix it. That was the main intentions from that plot point. It's not like he was an asshole who used yuuki then I would STRONGLY hate him. He truely love him that's why he couldn't forget him.

*insert a kid with a cross meme* here have holy water

It was not a stupid mistake. It was a selfish, irrational, cruel decision. A mistake is something that's an accident, like you meant to write "for" and you write "far" or you meant to turn left and you turn right. A decision is something you do intentionally. He did it intentionally for his own selfish reasons.

Good for them they lived together and learner his lesson . So does that mean people can not blame him for what he did in the past what he did was still wrong right .and people.have every right to get angry about it.

PS his guilt trip wasn't enough for me .I couldn't feel his emotions and guilt truly his selfishness and cowardness weigh much more to me and he is an asshole for what he did TO ME it's my opinion

Yeah, I know. THe "of" should be "or"

That actually makes someone normal not a weirdo. Most people excuse the things in fiction that they would never defend in real life. But I guess that means I'm a weirdo, then. Because I don't make that distinction since I have finally come to the understanding that fiction and real life intersect. After all, it's not as if fictional people are writing fiction, nor that fiction draws from completely fictional circumstances. I mean, you did say it yourself, after all. Or at least lent your tacit support for the idea of the realism of this manga.

Let me end with this, I like realism myself, but this manga reversed the way I like my realism to play out: A realistic setting with a slightly or even overly unrealistic narrative.

And, no, you and Sakata are not disagreeing about disliking a character based on their flaws. You're disagreeing about disliking their flaws. I, personally, can love flaws that characters may have. In this case, I despise the ones Itou has.

He did act like an asshole. And I"m glad he suffered. He should. Yuuki suffered MORE, he didn't have a companion all those years sharing meals and taking care of him when sick and helping with the home. Akira was not alone. Yuuki was alone. And Akira didn't seem discontent fully until about 4 years after he dumped Yuuki. That's when he cried. FOUR FUCKING YEARS to realize he loved Yuuki, while Yuuki had a broken heart and was ALONE all that time, having one-night stands to try and get a little "taste" of make-believe Akira.

I'm glad Yuuki got some happiness, but from what I heard from people who saw the raws--SPOILERS AHEAD, skip if you don't wanna know---

Yuuki outlived Akira by many, many years. How is that a happy ending. The one who should have died first was Yuuki so Akira could live alone and suffer the loneliness of being alone t hat Yuuki did for 8 years. So, not that ending sucks. Yuuki should not have been left alone again. Not again.

Although I think it was the author giving Akira his wish: never to be apart from Yuuki again, never to be dumped or lose him.

But I really want Yuuki to not be alone again. That hurts. Akira deserves that suffering, not Yuuki.

thanks

sry to say this out of the blue but can u plz give me link of the raws plz.. (￣∇￣")

I have them downloaded so I don't have links

There was a foreshadowing for him to die earlier and that was smoking he was a smoker since he was I believe 19 years old.

lol i watch it to find all the gay subplot =w= knowing it wont ever happen kinda makes is feel forbidden XD

2 words: read yaoi.

Not happening ╮(￣▽￣)╭

2 words: I know

I think Tae-min is going to get justice for that dude, hence why he's wanting to know who sent that video around. Plus it's why the seme dude was sayin all that stuff like he's different from the dude in the video, cuz he's wanting to fight back against those dudes because what they did wasn't right. I agree I don't like how the seme is so heartless, but I understand he has probably built up this disconnection with people. I wouldn't say loving though, more like....obsessive now that he knows Tae-min is alive and he probably doesn't care about anything else as long as he can keep Tae-min which can be romantic if it wasn't a tad bit pitiful for Tae-min. But I like how obsessive he is cuz I wanna see his jealous side cuz it has to be intense and he gotta punch some guys out for touchin his pre-....I digress lol dat just me tho lol (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

Still. Don't like when semes are like that. He did call siwon a slut even though he knows he was raped. Knowing that he figured it's Taemin. He is now after the fuckers who raped him? What's dumb is that his original body dies along with siwon's spirit. I thought the author would extend the plot by making siwon live taemin's life and learn from it something.