Kagura's Topics (7)

srry but what happened?

last month the author of pianpian created a mangago acc and told the uploader to stop uploading their webtoon. around this time the announcement for the new season came out in korea and it said that the new chapters will be released every three weeks from now on (the mangago situation probably took a toll on them) now the webtoon is getting uploaded here again and the author already heard about it and is ofc not happy about it

i mean every 10 days so three times a month sorry i didnt check my post

I didnt know either

well said!

Chapter 14, one of the HOTTEST chapters in the series is going up on Lezhin in just a few hours (I buy the Korean version so I know what's going to happen)!! I DEFINITELY don't want to share it with the fuckwads here that were so very rude to the author as well as start a thread to bash one person who had a panic episode. Most likely triggered JUST BECAUSE the author was here and not the fault of any of the members here.

Chapter 14 IS MINE; I PAID FOR IT and I'm NOT letting the people that are justifying themselves and boldly decalre they won't pay for it (just because of one person or other bullshit reasons they come up with) see the sexy hotness that's to come! Oh it's so hot and it's good to know it won't be shared with all of these toxic, nasty pricks here.

I agree with your general vibe (I feel bad for the author getting attacked here - that sucks. And I am not engaging in this comment war - personally I’m neutral... I like to read stories, I have purchased some, can’t buy everything I like), but I’m curious as to why you continue to read on this site given your stance? Seems like you read a lot of different manhwas/mangas on this site like many of us. Maybe that’s what triggers unpaying users - getting messages like this one here on mangago from other pirate readers. Kind of hypocritical in a way.
Because I partake, I don’t feel like I can lecture others. Do you see what I’m saying?

yea i know it might seem hypocritical but im only on mangago to 1) keep track of the manga im reading and 2) to read bl manga that havent been licensed. the bl manga that get licensed in my country are usually pretty...disappointing. lots of manga that are in my list here on mangago are manga that i own myself (or have owned before bc i sold over half of my collection), read at my best friends place or bought on lezhin. everything else is just not licensed in my country

Still, reading an unlicensed translation is not legal. Listen, like you, I also read here. I just don’t get why some of you are trying to lecture others into paying while you also use this site for whatever reason.
I wish people would keep perspective. This is a site of pirates. I feel bad for the artist getting attacked but honestly imo I don’t think she used the right place voice herself. An official announcement via Lezhin or going directly to Mangago admins to take the page down. I mean, if you’re (you as in the author) already paying DMCA pro might as well let them deal with this. Seems like a waste of time trying to persuade people that know very well what they’re doing and getting into verbal fights with them.

She already did everything you said and Mangago ignored her. What else can she do but plead to people to stop uploading her work? You can scroll down to see the whole thing.

Get out of mangago now...if you are are a legal fan.
I'm not one of the people who offended the author but your statement here on mangago is super hypocritical

hey bb, she should let dmca + intellectual property lawyers she hired do the gritty work for her - that's why she's paying for that. I think she let her (understandable) frustration get the best of her, and ended up feeling worse. I know personally people here can be quite savage so I find it pointless to write what she did. her fans and neutral people like me would have agreed with her on other non-pirate platforms. you can't shame people who never gave a fuck to begin with into purchasing your work - ya feel me? ;/

I’m not sure why you’re replying to me.
Point blank - if you have an account here (like you and me) & you read pirate versions of manga/manhwa licensed or not, we have NO ground to lecture anyone. This is a pirate site - the fact that you and others think that you can change people’s behavior by telling them what to do is laughable.
There are better ways to go about protecting one’s artwork. One way being litigation. She (author) gave herself a bad time, and that’s genuinely sad. I hope she just allows the team she’s paying $$$ to, to take care of this and avoid being in digital brawls for her own mental health.

I've....about lost my patience with you. You....seriously just blamed the author trying to protect her work.

You're the one who uses tumblr right? I KNOW artists there HATE that there work was reposted to tumblr without their permission. Especially if they were paid commission work from Patreon.

This is basically what happened to Haesin. It was like a commissioned work she did for patreon (Lezhin) and posted it tumblr (mangago) without her permission. Making her lose the revenue she would've gotten by her subscribers on patreon.

There's also a site out of Japan called pixiv that almost closed the doors to access from America and other western countries. Why? Because the artists there found their work being reposted to GUESS WHERE! It wasn't just tumblr it was pinterest IG, etc. Those artists weren't even being paid for their work, they just hated the fact their art was going without credit AND used without their permission to make crafts these people sold and made a profit. Can't tell you the number of times I've seen a fanwork that was being sold as a wall scroll on etsy orEbay by someone who stole their image and used a printing service.

Do you get it now? And many scanlation teams have a code of conduct that once the comic has an English version it's dropped. That means the moment that the day this had an official English version, it should've been dropped. However, for this particular comic, all it's chapters were pulled from English Lezhin. That means this comic SHOULD HAVE NEVER GONE UP IN THE FIRST PLACE. The same with MANY other manwhas pulled from their official publisher's website.

If it was a private fan translation, it would've been okay. But...its not. This whole thing was stolen from English Lezhin. All of it.

The other has a right to protect her work however she damn well pleases, smh....she shouldn't have to spend money on legal teams and the like. That's wrong and you know it.

I think they just got confused and has the idea that artists actually pay to publish their works in publishing. And no...that's not how it works chief. Publication companies sign a contract with the author to publish their work if they think they're satisfactory. THE PUBLISHING COMPANY spends money on THEM. It's called an investment into a potential best seller. They don't charge her anything. That would be absurd in the first place.

And understandably is very upset that her work was completely stolen and put here for people to read for free. She knows that she SHOULD be earning money for her work.

Very popular in Korea: #4 on Lezhin's best BL seller list.

In the US: #12...... Not even ranked in the top five OR top #10 like it is in the country of origin.

Reason? You searched Pian Pian in Google or any other search site and MANGAGO would show up. Not the official on Lezhin. This confused people into thinking the official version was here and not Lezhin. Hence why there's so many members here asking where to buy it. BECAUSE NO ONE EVER KNEW. There are a few here that I bet didn't know these are stolen copies of the one you find on Lezhin. This entire thing was stolen. It's not fan translation (which probably would've made the situation just a bit better, but by the time this comic got popular it was already being pilfered from the English site).

I hope this paints a better picture of how things actually work. Also, this person sounded WAAAYYY too close to blaming the victim. Not cool, bro.

anon, no wonder you attract so much negativity online. you took my comments and interpreted them as you please. whether private or not, it's still illegal - which tbh I dont care bc I use mangago and purchase licensed when I can. not sure why you're still around this site and particularly this comment thread if you're so pressed. you just want to get off from fighting, and I am just not interested in conversing with someone as bellicose and frankly, illogical, as you.

what's wrong? using this site to read pirated stuff? duh! and yet here we are reading unlicensed translations.

lol my point is that you are here on a pirate site trying to sound sanctimous - but just come across as hypocritical fools. as an artist myself, I know the internet is like the Wild West - if I feel like im being wronged. I have no issue going to litigation. better that than wasting precious moments of my life fighting idiots on the web. lol

lol y'all are so naive. why do you think businesses are even incorporated or why some get insurance? or why many content creator giants such as Disney have well staffed litigation teams? because they know what works in protecting intellectual property. haesin has every right to waster her time talking to people that are not and will prob not buy her works (otherwise they wouldn't be on a pirate site) - I am just pointing out how funny you all look trying to preach something while having 500+ mangas saved in your mangago account. lmao

The naive one here obviously is YOU. And the more you speak the more you don't sound as 'neutral' as you once claimed.

If you think Lezhin is as big a conglomerate as Disney just get the fuck out right now. Holy fuck never heard such a gross comparison in my fucking life.

And you're another child that doesn't know how the world works with all that you're spewing. Get out of here with your anti-capitalism shit because it's not even about that. Lezhin is a fucking foreign company trying to expand to other countries willing to accept their content. Only a child wouldn't know how this business works.

I also see you've never taken an economy class or if you did, you FAILED. Don't talk about companies, economy, or business because you don't know how it works. ESPECIALLY overseas ones.

I'm done here and it's pretty clear that you're not a neutral voice. You just want shit for free even after someone cries to you to stop stealing from them.

You've been found out, you can stop talking now.

Ugh. Another troll trying to justify these actions. They had me the first half, not gonna lie...

Dude. We told you MULTIPLE times there are anons here from IG that don't use this site and are coming here to put up a fight with all people who think this is okay.

they don't want to see this comic dropped. Bad enough that we're not going to get it weekly anymore because of this.

Don't know why I'm even answering but yeah, Lezhin is a Korean company not an American one like Disney. Also means they that different laws and business practices. In addition most likely don't have the resources to provide protection because yes, that costs money.

And mangago here is an AMERICAN site taking advantage of the file sharing law. Foriegn laws are pretty much helpless against it. Anything regarding downloadable media is helpless against it. TV shows, movies, music, videogames, any entertainer who's career is in those fields suffer from this giant loophole in the American law system. So you honestly think a Korean company can stand against it?

Hm, that's the reason we want the uploaders to stop uploading here. It's actually funny how they spent a few dollars on a chapter and think it's okay for them to share something they didn't even put a hand into. I hope they realise that a few ( $0.75, I believe) dollars they spent on a chapter, means a loss of hundreds of dollars if it's uploaded here.
Also, I don't think they're ever read what manga*o has to say about this. They take no responsibility if the uploader is caught.

honestly though! chapters cost less than a dollar! i'm sure we have 10 bucks lying around that we could use to support author :(

80 coins on WEBTOON is $7.99 whereas 42 coins on Lezhin is $9.99. On Tappytoon you can get 82 coins for $9.99. On other sites you can pay for monthly subscriptions for all content. Coming from someone who pays to read on multiple platforms, they are pricey in comparison.

That stated, I am glad to pay for good content so I always pay to read and come to this site to discuss chapters. I know that creating manga/manhua/manhwa is time consuming and doesn’t normally pay a ton so I try to support. But yeah, that site is still pricey compared to others

Dude, this TakkunUsab or whatever has lost his mind and attacking people here. Just ignore him OK. I totally got your point by the way. I’m a person buying when I can and I bought from tappy, tapas, and I was buying from lezhin before I found out this other site and saw that lezhin prices are really high. But still I bought all chapters of some series I really liked even though they were in lezhin. I was planning to buy all the chapters of pianpian before this lunatic takkunusa showed up and started to attack people. Now I’m completely not willing to buy bc of this lunatic.

Oh wow, you’re not willing to buy the comics because of a person, who is completely unrelated to the author, was acting the way you don’t like. Completely makes sense. /s

I genuinely, highly doubt this manwha would be taken down. This has happened before with From Points of Three, i think the author came here and left a message, instead mangago removed all the comments from the author then blocked South Korean IP. The author did an interview about it at an official English site started with F. I tried posting the interview before and this site blocked my comment from appearing.

I think Haesin did the right thing by coming here. If she cant stop her works from being pirated, the least she could do is asking the uploaders to stop uploading her works. Uploaders will change, of course, but i think it would take some time after this drama for someone to willingly upload.

It reminded me when someone trolled POTN forum by uploading chapter with eggplant emoji all over it. Afterward no one updated the chapter for two days, people started whining, then someone eventually uploaded the chapter.

I think I did hear of a couple manwhas comingdown tho not exactly sure how they did it though.

And that sounds like shit for mangago to do. I think they did it to an actual active member here (had favorites saved and every thing) and once they reported one manga, they just pulled their comments and topics and the member couldn't make any topics anymore. They weren't banned, they were just banned from the topic section of the manga they reported. They weren't even spamming or causing a fuss. They just. Mangago seriously doesnt treat it's own members right.

Haesin's account is still here. But if all that is true then if she reported this manga (which she mostly likely did) then maybe her topic or comments got pulled as well. Or they're going to be at least.

Now that I think on it, she's not fluent in English so she probably didn't know how to report at all. So maybe all she said is still here. If she just comments and doesn't report she can probably still make comments and topics. Unless someone wants to be that person and report her to staff. Because it seems as long as you don't mess with staff then you're still free to comment and make topics. Especially since it seems she was talking to people here individually. So she caught a luck break?

I don't know. All I know is that this is all a huge mess leaving an author very upset because several here were rude to her (from what she stated in emails and Ig) when she was only trying to protect what's hers.

Yeah, people here are dicks. I couldn’t believe the utter shamelessness of some people. Bashing the authors, calling her fake, making excuses that they won’t be fans because of her ‘attitude’, like she should be grateful they are reading her comics, like its her fault Lezhin coins are priced the way they are, then they had the audacity to fangirl over Callix.

Like, Are you kidding me?? People like that are NOT fans at all and they won’t be fans anyway, they’re gonna keep making excuses to not buy her comics anyway. Poor? From third world country? can’t spare $0.75 to buy a chapter? This comic is not basic necessity, they can live without it. Not only they’re stealing her works, they’re rude as hell to her. She’s only trying to protect her property like anyone would.

The irony is they complain they’re poor, but they’re making the authors poor. Do you like working without pay? Because thats what they are doing to her. Stealing her revenue.

If they’re teenagers without a card, then please don’t read, this manwha is adult only.

At POTN forum they’re also acting how the authors should be grateful for the exposure Mangago gave them. Really? Exposure doesnt pay the effing bills. Or the excuse that there are korean pirate sites too, yes, you think the authors are NOT trying to do something about that? They have been doing petitions for how long now to the korean president trying to take care of that to no avail.

So many excuses.

Oh, and another of my favorite excuse, calling people hypocrite for being on this site too. Why are you here then??? You use this site too.
I’m here calling you out.

Here's a newsflash. If they're on anon....THEY'RE MOST LIKELY NOT MEMBERS THAT USE THIS HELL HOLE.

And I'm here calling your cheap ass out. These are loyal PAYING fans that came from IG where the author made a desperate plea in public here to bash your shameful cheap ass. I dare say that some are the author's personal friends in their circle here to fight people like you.

You obviously don't know how the 'anon' function works. You got egg on your face. Shut up and get out.

Facts! I hope he gets a taste of his own medicine!

It's frustrating af still!! Come back when finished I suggestttt ╥﹏╥

thank you, i guess im gonna pick it up again when its finished ╥﹏╥ i really love the art style but i hate it when misunderstandings get dragged out

What??? The main story is done OP, its okay to pick it up now since there's about ten or so chapters left. I definetly suggest picking it up

Okay yeah now you can re-read famm isss all gooood!!
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