Mister Pumpkin's Topics (151)

Did you really mean to use the word "capricious" here? As in the sudden change in mood and behavior without warrant? If so, it doesn't correlate with the rest of your comment.i think the word you are looking for is "ungrateful" maybe. Or "ungracious". Possibly even "childish".
Other than that, people are allowed to feel what they want. Beyond that, mangago has been frustrating aor of people with false update notifications. I've gotten quite a few. Its also really annoying when scanlation teams go to war with one another and by continuously uploading the same chapter over each other again and again. I will never understand it. If it's a good upload, who cares if you did it or not, you know? Just leave it up and email the person privately and ask them not to do it again if you want to continue scanlating so badly. They talk about all the effort they put in yo is as though the other team hadn't put in just as much effort to produce relatively the same result. If it was a bad scan, I get it. But a good one? Makes no sense for them to gripe about it, really. It especially makes even less sense to publicize your war.
(Just FYI, none of this was said in malice against you at all. Or with sarcasm. I write formally when I don't know someone and that sometimes seems bitchy, but thats not my intent.) ┑(￣Д ￣)┍

Ah this ungrateful peeps piss me off. How can I pin your commenttt

No, you just not understand my comment, my word is exactly "capricious", yeah we call this also "ungrateful" or "ungrateful" but I want precisely use "capricious". If you doubt, that you didn't either read my comment or just don't understand, I don't know (it's not a reproach, just a possibility). Being capricious is not only "change in mood and behavior without warrant", all definition must be interpertated because, when you call a child capricious you just don't say "oh you change you behavior suddenly", when you call a child capricious it's because this suddenly change of behavior is unwarranted and just superficial also insincere, just to obtain what they want. It's exactly like this situation, some people are sooo happy, nice to the uploader when there are a new chapter and when uploader do something like put a INNOCENT notice they cry like a child who didn"t have the gift that they wanted, yes. It's capricious. so this is EXACTLY, What I wanted say.


Then, you say something so obvious that it's almost ridiculous to answer you... Who says that people didn't have the right to feel what they want ? Nobody here says that... This proves that you just really not understand what I was saying.... OBVIOUSLY people have the right to feel anything they want. The problem is to complain about something :
1 - Ridiculous, a simple note doesn't need angry messages like it's something bad to put a notice ! If someone is frustrated, they keep it for them, it's not because you're in internet that being polite is an option. When you don't like someone, you don't go to him saying "I HATE YOU", it's completely stupid, in internet it's the same.
There we are in : illegal platform, we read illegal scan, people work for us, complain about a SIMPLE notice, is not something that we can afford ! So it's just a caprice just "not to frustrated people", what are they, children ? You can support this "frustration" like everyone and just wait.

It's technically not your affair. It's notice boring u just ignore. You didn't even need to click on it... It's litteraly on the title "NOTICE"... what war are you talking about? It's just a notice... Seriously...

And then Mangago is a COMMUNITY and COMMUNITY, MUST have organisation. If you have your scans it's because people works on this, they have working a LONG time together to give you this scan sometimes. If someone (anonymous) put a scan, what we will do with the work of the main team ??? You put it in grabage ? All this work ? If people buy especially the scan for us, what they do ? You are exactly this ungrateful reader who doesn't reflect more that his own person, at no time have you thought to yourself that maybe if the scanlation team complains about other people uploading it is because they are officially working on this work and the anonymous uploader botches their work and strategy ? Some uploader, sometimes doesn't give scan for GOOD reasons. But you are so impatient that you don't try to understand why they are angry, you don't care because you just here to read. If you just here to read and not understand what is Mangago, so just don't complain ?
It's you don't understand why anonymous uploader are problematic sorry but you don't understand why a main scanlation group is needing and the organisation behind... You just insult the work of people there without questioning yourself as a reader who benefits from free work.

correction of my dumb mistakes : you can bear this frustration*
it's not your business*

yeah it's not my maternal language sorryyy

I can tell English is not your native language and that's okay. I figured that that was what you meant by using capricious. However, you made no reference to fickle behavior, so that's why I said it had no correlation to the rest of your comment. I understood what you were trying to say, but without some integrated sentences explaining its correlation to your comment, it makes it sound as though the word is used incorrectly.
Also, I understood the rest of your comment as well. I'm not approving of unwarranted behavior, such as in this case. I appreciate the notices given. What I don't like is when scan teams (and I've done it before so I know how much time and effort goes into it) re-upload the same chapter 5-9 times because they can't curb their pettiness of "no, I have to be the uploader". Neither uploader is in the wrong, and I only complain when someone is doing a good job scanlating and someone else comes in with poor quality and poor translations. Then I wonder what the point is and can understand the initial translators upset. However, there's nothing proving that the second uploader didn't pay for the chapter either. And if they translated and edited the chapter themselves or with a team, they also took time out to do so, just as the origin uploader did. So I don't see the point in being angry over it. That is my point. If the same effort is put in and the quality is the same, why are they complaining? They don't want their work negated and yet they want to negate others because they did the same thing and uploaded faster. It's hypocritical. I am not an impatient person. I have never been called that in my life and my life clearly supports the fact that I have an abundance of patience. Frustration does not equate to impatience. No one likes being disappointed, even minutely. It's a blip one radar, but it is annoying to receive the same notification over and over for the same chapter. A notice I understand and am grateful for, but not a notification for a chapter thats already been updated and was perfectly fine to stay that way. But like I said, mangago seems to be having issues with false notifications. And when I have 50 manga updating and 20 of them are false updates, that can be frustrating. Have a good day.

thank you for taking your time to write this!

Thanks for ur reading And comment

Thank you for this, while it does give me the idea but most of it didn't get into my brain. Am i stupid?

Nooo at all, it's just that my brain has a lot of imagination and when there is a mythe, he creates an infinity of Theories which are possibly wrong....（/TДT)/

wow! that is such an interesting analysis

I think the reason Ver calls “Cain” his “Sun” is because as a vampire, he can only come out at night, hence, his Sun is the Moon.

Ken as Cain might have done something “evil” or “sin” against Ver when Ver was a child as seen from Ken’s dreams which drove him to kill Cain, assuming Cain is the God of the Moon.

But prophecies based on legends like this in stories usually have a twist. I have a feeling Agia taking the prophecy as it is and taking falling in love as an obligation or rather his salvation is going to be one of the major conflicts in the story,

Ver also may refer to Cain as his “Sun” because as a vampire, he is his weakness - that which can kill him

THAT is what is making me uncomfortable. One is in the relationship as a means for survival and the other is doing it out of obligation. If he didn't think of him as the moon he would have left him to die.

Yes! Plus his lines “i need tread carefully..i only have one chance..” and “we STILL cant kill those close with Ken”. It doesnt help that we dont know if the artist intended it or not but cometimes he looks like he’s scheming something evil

Thanks you, Don't hesitate to give your own interpretation of the work! :3

1) Yeah ! It's a good remark, very interesting ! I hadn't even thought about it while it's super obvious! It's right Sun is what is missing for Ver to be "overpowered".
But, I find that that doesn't explain everything, for exemple : If there is a Moon, where is the Sun ? I can believe that the author create an entire "lore" , with legend and divinity, God of death, God of the moon, vampire... And there isn't God of the sun ? Knowing that there are two candidates ! There is necessarily ONE Moon, if there is ONE person being the Moon, what is the second person ? Aman Church is convinced that Isabel is the Human of the moon, so she is necessarily special and we know that Ken is also someone special, so what is Isabel if she isn't the Human of the Moon ? If she is human, not a vampire, what is she ? It's my interrogation and the reason why I perhaps thinks there is the Sun or a divinity, plus Aman. The author really insists on the parallelism between Ken and Isabel, there are all the times a comparison between them, their similarities and difference, without knowing each other, we know already that there is something strange with Isabel and her disappearance...

2) I don't know, I don't think Ver was innocent as a child. Like I said, I think Moon was naturally kind, innocent and care about humans. But his "sin" are : to be really naive and not realizing that too much trust, to want to save everyone and to believe that everyone has good intentions can lead to terrible disasters... According to what I read about Ken, it's totally his personality : first, he walks alone on the road ALONE, while he knows very well that vampires come out at night consequence : he is bitten, then he trusts about Agia so easily and wait to be almost raped to tell him STOP, plus there with this musician who is a musician, HE KNOWS that a powerful vampire search to have him but he wants to go to her, innocently. Ken forget dangers because he is totally unaware about his own situation and I would say that he repeats the same error that he did in the past. He talks kindly to everyone, Agia, his friend (this one who loves him), May, all in one way uses him like a "tool" somewhere and indirectly or not put him in danger to satisfy their own goal ... Ken let do that because he is kind, and too kind...
So I'm practically convinced that "Ken's sin" is an error due to his naivety, and his negligence, I think that Ver falling in love with him is a part of this error. Perhaps Moon shouldn't have be so close to him, and give him an extreme attention. I explain that Ken really care about humans specially children, I think that Ver is this children's case who touched the Moon from the deep of his heart, his pains a lot touched Moon so maybe Ver mistook it for love, whereas Moon gave him affection like a father or a brother...

3) I really think that the prophecy need to have Human of the Moon and Human of the death who fall in love with each other, and I'm persuaded that Agia doesn't mistook about this element. The myth is based on Aman, a perfect union between Moon and God of the Death, there isn't other option that this duality for me to accomplish this, it's literally said "The two cherished each other and would not be appart even for a moment" ... But you point out something very interesting : Also, I find Agia really strange... Like ... He's in a hurry, he does this in a way that is not at all natural, automatic ... I don't know it's really strange, but I don't have a good feeling, I also find that he does this mostly for his own salvation... But I don't think it's the major conflict in the story, one of the main, I agree but not the major ^^

I'm sorry for my bad english ~

I'm not totally agree. Yes, the fact that Agia is in hurry and seems to have "obligation" is real BUT I don't think that Agia is completely manipulating Ken, I think he really care about him and really loves him, but I think he mixes up his obligations to the church and his love for Ken. I really think that Aman Church didn't really understand God of the death's word, and perhaps the myth with monster and foolish human, death of Moon etc... either modified or caricatured, to make Ver the perfect "evil", Aman Church is like SUPER sus.... And I think Agia is completely manipulated by them..... And I'm not agree with the fact that Agia would have let Ken die if he wasn't Moon. Agia is not a bad person, he is not an angel, neither a recommendable, but I really thinks that Ken has something special, when he hugs him volontarily for the first time, ironically he did perhaps what the Moon did in the past : give affection to someone that nobody wants love, that nobody wants approach. I mean we are agree that Agia is a real asshole XD but Ken hugs him and "asks" (we can discuss about consent, because he was like "drunk") for his embrace, like a lover, like someone who really care about him, and maybe for us it's nothing "man, he was just ... Not in his right state..." but for Agia who seems to have a difficult past, with probably not parents who loves him... It can be a big upheaval... I think ?

I think that Ver refers to Ken/Cain as his 'sun' because as a vampire who lives at night Moon acts as the Sun IYKWIM?

Its mentioned that a creature (proto vampire) 'stole' the Moon Gods immortality and therefore he disappeared/died and that led to the Death God turning his back on humans. As Ver is the oldest vampire it stands to reason that he was the one who killed the Moon god, which doesn't make much sense as he apparently loves him. Ver said at one stage that Ken would abandon Agia again so there is probably a lot more to the story that we have to wait to unfold.

The prophesy said that the Child of the Moon and the Child of Death will be human, which makes me wonder of the child of the moon is a seperate person from Ken, as he is referred to as a God. Likewise, I'm not sure if Agia is human either, with his powers. Perhaps they are just born human and manifest later?

I wouldn't read to much in to the name, the Cain is an old name still used today with heaps of variations. The author might have just liked it and I doubt its linked to the story in any way.

Why would you say that?? He’s just worried about her imagine he didn’t make it there in time?

exactly.

If you, you are ready to accept his rude attitude, from the beginning (the night where he litteraly raped her) I can't do anything for u.

I answered already at the first response ~

You mean their wedding night? He didn't force her but she was also expected to sleep with him as it was to consumate their marriage. She had no idea what sex was supposed to be, she was really afraid and it hurt her first time.

She was literally trembling in front of him, she was ready to cry like LITTERALY. He doesn't need to be a genius to see that. He didn't act like he cares, and just not at this moment, he talks to her like a child, he doesnt asks to kiss her, to hug hee... even the evidence that she is shy and fragile doesn't come at his mind --''' ... he doesn't ask about her past, doesn't try to really understand her... And just in the last chapter just the "shut your mouth" doesn't shock u ? Ok I'm done, you just blind at this level, I mean... That's just a jerk, I just want to seriously kick him just for the "shut your mouth".

Then why do you continue to read? Their relationship is obviously a major part of this series. He's literally not going to know about her abuse until much later on, anyway. You might want to just save yourself the frustration

No use in complaining about the lack of communication lmao

Because I'm someone who fall in love with cute heroin like Max... She is seriously too cute ;-;

fr lmao, no adults have done anything wrong yet, attempted to do something bad. and there's a reason why the author made this story in this kind of era right? I would accept all the slander if the story was in modern place or if the fl was raped or attempted or even did something without her consent (all of it)

Yes, this is like we have someone who tell us a real fact like a true story that would happen today for example