Na-Kyum is a proof that life doesn't like all her creation.
I personnally find this story tragic... Because, if Hyunsung and Dojin are together it's thanks to their part of animality.... They stay omega and alpha, this is a sort of continuation of Alpha like dominant and Omega dominated, hyunsung has never wanted be with an alpha and several times has been against cliche of Omega in the society. His mother suffer from this system, and Hyunsung wasn't really for a child, I see him just forced to accept a destiny that he never wanted... Same for Dojin, he hates lost his control and this fucking idea that Alpha must be with omega and that there is a "alpha pride", alpha always dominant and stronge while omega are sweet, nice, and dominated... It's kind of sad, and make me think at the past in our world where was exactly the same cliche with men and woman. This mangas just show us, a vision really persimistic from the world, she said that even if we want fight against nature, society, you will be always a part of that, and you will follow that society...
Hyunsung and Dojin have never wanted to be obedient to this society, Dojin hated omega and hyesung hated being an alpha with this subtil and direct discrimination....
This story don't change this problem, Omega will be weak, sweet, little... While alpha will be ambitious, tall, imposant, Amazing... It's just... Very tragic, humans aren't so easy to read and we can't classify each other like this, it's too easy and so stupid... I would like omegaverse more ... Realistic and stop with this strict opposition between Omega and Alpha it's deliver a poisonous message for me, alpha are more intelligente, more strong ... While Omega are the contrary... It's pissed me off, because all people in the genre obey at this logic, for example we don't have a omega who fight to sucesse in his life, with his passion and his job without to be fucked by an alpha that he knows for two days.
Yeah the first couple is an example of the title drop 'love is an illusion' ..their love is created by pheromones and in this manga, the weird, unconscious but consensual life bond occurrence..they would never be together without the accident that is Byul bc they are not a couple in love...they like each other and yeah dojin probably loves heesyung by now so...
But anyway I have hopes for couple #2 esp with the rich, smart, bitchy powerful omega getting in the mix.. Any gender x beta is true love in any omegaverse but not too many mangakas exploit that view.
As for omegaverse as a genre...omegas are supposed to represent the oppressed people we see in the real world: eg women, people of color. Alphas represent those with power and privilege who have that just bc they were born with a certain characteristic-not bc they did anything to earn it--like white males in America. A more poignant example would be the Hindu Indian caste system..Dalits - tech they are so low they're outside the caste system (Omegas) and Brahmins/Hindu elites (Alphas).
So anyway, those tropes are not going away for those who write in the traditional omegaverse format. The real world oppression already pisses me off so maybe I'm immune to it in fiction. I read and I sympathize with the Omegas and praise the manga I come across that have good Alphas.
If you want something a little lighter try
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/yukyu_omega/ or
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/boku_no_high_spec_kareshi_sama/
If you're tired of the rape trope that has no meaning to the plot try these
http://www.mangago.zone/home/mangalist/425432/
Actually i think you are wrong about Dojin and Hyesung, their love wasn’t created by the pheromones. Yes the title says « love is an illusion » as it is the mind set of both character at the start of the story, which is why both do not aknowledge the love eachother.
At first Dojin doesn’t understand what he feels but he ends up understanding before Hyesung(who is bound by a trauma, due to his dad using his mom, that he eventually overcome). Of course both characters kind of fell in love a bit randomly (way too fast) but thats how yaoi works, it’s not due to omegaverse.
Also, Hyesung and Dojin’s soul bound happened after they met, so i think the bound was made by their love (before they aknowledge it) so it’s not like they were forced by nature.
We're gonna have to agree to disagree. IMHO They do not appear to be in love and they do not come off as lovey dovey. Hyesung only casually admitted to liking Dojin in chapter 61 or 62/3. Dojin may love hyesung but he can't articulate the 'why' of it..when he was asked he said I love u cause you're you. He can't explain cause it is the alpha pheromone talking. I'll bet hyesoo and Dojun could tell you what they love about each other bc theirs is REAL. Again that is my opion. Ymmv
There is never really a reason of why you love someone though. There are reasons why you can be interested in someone, but once you love someone there is not a reason for it.
Best example for that is if i ask you why you love your family, there is not a reason. If you are going out with someone and i ask you why you love him, are you seriously going to name something ? I believe there is not really a reason for loving someone, you just want to be loved back (and being loved as a different meaning for everyone).
Oh and im not trying to convince you that they loved each other, i’m just saying i disagree that love needs a reason to be
I think you're confusing a reason to love with why you love a particular person...I'm talking about the latter for this story. Even a shallow person might say they love someone bc they are physically attractive. I fell in love with my man cause he is handsome, smart, funny, affectionate. We have fun together, have great chemistry...etc etc. Saying I love him bc he's him is a copout imho.
I love my family bc we are a close knit family. We talk together, we travel together, celebrate and grieve together. We fight but don't hold grudges...
We can all identify what we love in others if it's really love. I couldn't think of one thing to find loveable in hyesung, he was one of the most annoying MCs I've ever read about. Sure I can sympathize that he is a product of his abusive upbringing bit Dojin is only into him bc he can have cute kids...an Alpha drive to procreate.
So you are saying, that if he gets uglier, isn’t as funny and less smart your love will also decrease? I don’t think these are why you love him. Being affectionnate might be a cause, because through his affection, you can feel his love and thats what we want, to be loved the same way we love someone.
Him being smart, funny and handsome are probably reasons why you fell for him, but once you love him, i think all what matters is to feel loved back.
You are getting off topic now bc now you're talking about two people who are already in love...sure if my man was in a motorcycle accident and he's suddenly fugly and slow on the uptake cuz he didn't wear his helmet that time, I'd still love him but maybe I'd have to keep my eyes closed when we kiss. I'll still remember fondly how attractive and quick witted he was but at that point I'd be charmed by all his other qualities. The point I was trying to make was that I can identify what qualities about my partner made me fall for him. Heesoo and Dojin don't really have all that at this point in the story--though you could say Heesoo loves Dojin's money and Dojin loves Heesoo's babymaking capabilities.Byul is a winner.
BTW, I don't think being loved back is a requirement to love someone...it's definitely a perk though.
I do believe when you love someone, all you want is to feel loved back.
And ok i see that i misunderstood you somewhere.
But the reason why Dojin fell for Hyesung is because it’s a yaoi manga and in most of them the characters falls in love for no reason. It’s almost always like that, be it yaoi or shounen ai. It’s not due to it being an omegaverse.
Even Dojun and Heesoo (forgot how to write his name) they dont really have a reason for falling for each other, they didn’t describe each other as their type.
I pray for that little cute painter never EVER finish with this psychopath ... Please save this young boy.
Amen.
X2
Other people : AAAAw this is so cute... There are a great couple, I'm jealous...
Me : WATCH THIS WATER... WOW THE COLOR IS SUPER COOL !! *-* YEAH I'M FUCKING JEALOUS I WANT THIS BATH BALL ME TOO RIGHT NOOW **-** GIIIVE ME THIIIIS PLEAAASE
(≧∀≦) Tru I was just looking at the water the whole time and thinking I want one
- I want come back to school and take a break of my role in coffee shop.
Yohan : Nope. Nope. Noooope.
*End of the third season*
[Spoiler]
SO. I have read all raws. So, I propose my interpretation and my analyse for all person interested in this manga.
My first interpretation is to remark that this manga is sort of "inversement of original book". It mean primarely that Athy and Jenette have inversed role. I think it's the big error of Athanasia, she is only reffering at the original story and this is a problem because Athanasia is not at all the Athanasia of the book. Even if elements are the same, characters also, Athanasia is an enormous "anomaly" due to the fact she knows the "original" novel the begining and the end. She automaticaly changed the story and so the relations that original Athanasia had with all characters.
I think seriously that Athanasia made a mistake considering that she is not Athanasia. I mean, she separes constantly the figure of Athanasia of Herself, but she IS Athanasia, not the girl she was before, Athanasia is HER. She has an impact in every characters and every characters have an impact on her. It's to late, his father deeply love her and at less to be victime by an evil trick or other things, he will not let his daughter, the Diane's daughter run away (Watch his reaction during the bal). There are too many people who love her. But the heroin is only referring to the book, persuaded that the story will finished like she finished in the book, while she is NOT in a book but in the reality. Perhaps, the story will have a bad end but never like the book. And this is why Athanasia doen't make attention at what is happening around her, she is fixed on the original story. But, she is not stupid, she guesses that there are elements differents, she must quickly be detached to the original novel if not, she will have very bad problems. She doesn't make the difference between the book and the reality, and she ignores what it's really dangerous (for example,the guy with black hair and eyes, who ressemble stragely to Claude coindicence I don't think so...)
Spoilers of the last chapters
When Jennette offers a gift to Athanasia (which is by the strange guy), I'm also afraid that the story is inversed in the sense that the person who will be accused to kill is Jennette and that the only girl who will be killed is Athanasia. In the chapter where main protagonist go in city, we see that Jennette is really innocent and manipulable what is not the case of Athanasia who know very well, for example that the Ezekiel's father is not an innocent guy. Ezekiel's father and his mysterious complice begin to change of strategy, they understand that they can't replace Athanasia by Jennette (I think it was the goal to be closer to Claude and therefore the throne) and that Claude is deeply attached to his daughter, more than they thought. So the best way to weakened Claude is to attack Athanasia, it's a pure logic and the same of the book but inversed, Jennette is poisoned in book to reach indirectly Claude.
I precise that it's just analyse and proposition of interpretation. There are so many things that I find strange and questionable. To begin, I find the book that Athanasia read in her previous life is strange. Where does this book come from? Who write this novel ?
Then, why in the novel Athanasia's mother has is so unimportant? I mean, I can understand the hatred he had towards his daughter in the book, but why is Diane's importance not emphasized ? Then, how come Claude so easily killed Athanasia in the book? I know he's a psychopath, but he's not as stupid as that, if he really wanted to kill Athanasia he would not have waited for her to be accused of poisoning. Claude is not stupid, he would have doubted that it is not Athanasia the real culprit in the book.
Then, why our Athanasia's magic is so powerfull ? It's not mentioned in the book. Lucas is not mentioned in the book, since Athy meets him in real life...
I find personally this book very... uncanny. Because, all turn around Jennette why ? why everything in the book seems to overwhelm Athanasia and succeed to Jenette to end in double death ?
I want really discuss with all of you about this, please give me your opinion >o< sorry for my mistakes english isn't my native language.
I agree with your theory. Athy and Jeanet roles are totally inverse. She is too aatched to original story that she never took in consideration that her moves had a hudge impact on true life. She is targered by Ijekel's father and Claude's brother now that Claudes started to develop warm feeling toward her. And don't forget Lucas who was never mentionned in original story!!
It's that's why I like this story because things are never written by advance. Sorry for my poor english~
In the original he let's athy take the blame and get killed is because he resents her. He loved athys mom but she died giving birth to her, so he blames athy. He thinks that it's better if she dies to he. He really hated athy in the beginning bc of this
Yes we can suppose a lot of things finally, there is Lucas who has a role also mysterious and we don't really know him...
Yes, but I don't think that if Claude really hated Athanasia, he wouldn't wait to kill her. I think that in the book, we have a Claude just cruel. However, the story show us a Claude cruel okay but very intelligent. He is not stupid, I'm just suprise that in the original story he killed Athanasia without any reflexions...
Diana’ lack of importance in the original is because Claude already got rid of his memories towards Diana by that time and the world was built surrounding Jennette. Jennette would ofc remind him of her evil mother who he used to have a fond memory of and held on to longer than Diana (explained by the picture still in his room. Why he kept that? Don’t really know because at the time, the world was still built for Jennette and Athy hasn’t shifted the narrative yet)
To expand and explain some of your theories
Spoiler (possibly)
A) The changing POV
I think ppl forgot that Athy said this book was cliche mess and from the logic of the original book, loose ends were actually never tied (as in Jennette felt guilty but did nothing to fix the damage) and everything was originally built for Jennette, that’s why there are many discrepancies between the current time and the first time. But with Athy changing the tide, the world shifted its focus and started to play out depending on Athy’s real time actions (which she doesn’t realise). Just like how you are the MC of your own world and life goes on even when you don’t exist in it.
B) Lucas was mentioned but was never explored further
Lucas’ existence was never explored in the original book but was mentioned so he became a wildcard that just grew as part of the in-book universe. Because the original Athy was gloomy and never really went outside, she never got to meet Blackie and Lucas. Blackie, imo, without ever meeting its owner could not manifest and Lucas would have eaten it like he said he would.
C) The original Claude’s wilful forgetfulness and resentment
Claude said before that just one more year and he could forget Diana and that was the key. Because the original Athy met him too late, all that was left in him was resentment and not the love he had for her mother. Also since you’ve read the raws, you’d see a scene where Claude collapsed and Jennette frantically came in with the former crown prince (his dead brother), that I believe was the “after happily ever after”, where Claude was completely manipulated by Ijekiel’s father and his older brother.
Things that remain consistent: The existence of the great magician (which never was explored in the og), the circumstances of both princesses’ births, Claude’s slowly getting rid of his memories after the massacre, the evil schemes that use Jennette to manipulate Claude, the fact that his brother has dark magic.
Because the original book just focused on making Jennette become loved by everyone, it never resolved the schemes that directed towards Claude and the author basically let the evil schemes of Ijekiel’s father and her real father succeed. That’s why it was relatively easy for Athy to shift the narrative.
Anw, the original Athy had all the ingredients for success but she was fucked over by timing and narrative.
Claude hates athy because she reminds him of the woman he loved who decided to keep the baby even though she knew it was going to cost her life. we also see that in the previous life that Claude never took the time to know athy, he saw in her the person who took away the woman he loved.
Yes that's so true. Claude never took intiative to know Athy. He just wanted to rid her existence because she reminded him, her lost beloved :/
So in this progression, the history and characthers are changing. Athy will survive but Jeannet will be the one who could be killed by Claude. Schemes and manipulations from Claude's bro and Ijekel's father will be revealed, step by step. And we'll see of each characters's point of view. Don't forget we don't know what's behind scene.
It's sad for jenette ,she just wanted to be part of the family
It's completely stupid to decide to say nothing at her boyfriend. Fuck, you haven't problems with him, and a pregnancy is not ONLY a affair of WOMAN. What's the fuck is with that manga ?! Man would dream to see her wife pregnant with his child ! It's cruel to private him of this happiness ! They make love TOGETHER so, it's completely stupid and idiot to say "it's me who must take care of that" I understand that she is afraid to say that at her parents or boyfriend, but it's worst saying nothing ! It's unfair and it make me angry ! It's not realistic, if man and woman are in love and make a child, ALL MUST BE PREVENTED EVEN THE FATHER ! It's completely ridiculous if there aren't any problems with the father who is totally normal WHY YOU DON'T SAY THAT HE GONNA BE FATHER ?!!!! "For his study" of course... IT'S HIS CHILD IDIOT, I think that this man is enough intelligent to understand that his child is more important ! You're alone in home, while you have the possibility to have a man with you to help you and a family ! But no, you want to rise this child alone. A lot of women would have wanted your luck. You hide all of this at your boyfriend, and it's not a solution it's just stupid.
I'm extremely deceived by this author. We fought for sex equality and we have now a woman who take care alone of her pregnancy just because "man is studying" so you must sacrificied your time and not him ? Ok. Good.
Dude, it's just a Manhwa.
And ?
just cause it's a manhwa doesnt mean that people dont actually think about this kind of stuff. its a reason why she didnt say anything to her family and it was because of that mindset.
A work from an anthor has always a message to give, a message about society and life. Even it's fiction, it's not something which is not real. For example, if you have a story which defend racism even it's a fiction we'll be shocked ! Just because it's "fiction" is not an excuse to put negative messages and confirm them. Even if we can talk about in fiction, but we must show this situation ok, but we can criticize and present negative point of this ...
was defending u though?
I wasn't for you sorry I made a mistake I wanted to do another thing to the other
It*
MAIS PUTAIN !!! YOU LOVE HIM, ADMIT IT AND RUN FOR YOUR LOVE !! ABRUTIE !! IDIOT !! (⊙…⊙ )
Tu m'as tuée
Non mais au bout d'un moment faut lui dire quelque chose à cet enfant
I don't know why .. I have a bad feeling.
me too,, (⊙…⊙ ) i have this angst feeling on this
Yeah... It's strange to explain
yes indeed haha :p
I'm really gonna kidnapped Yohan. I swear it's my goal in life.
Just how big is this yohan dude, where his boyfriend can’t move him...lol... hilarious
I think that in an extra says that he's near 1.9 and mc is 1.72 so the difference is quite big
Dang... thanks that is a big difference... and yet sexy as hell
I'm pretty little too, but I don't care I will pursue my dream
Of course, nothing wrong w being cute fierce and small...GO GET THAT DREAM
Thank youuu