Mister Pumpkin November 28, 2019 5:59 pm

Am I seriously waiting that Na-Kyum finish rich with a adorable person who suddenly appear of nowhere and become deeply in love with him and care about him simply and nicely ?





Yes.
.
. DON'T.
JUDGE.
ME.

Please God save the quee... hm ... Na-Kyum.

Mister Pumpkin November 6, 2019 11:37 am

I love this ending. Why ? That's right, it's a bad end, and ?! In each Yaoi we have a seme who do something bad and who is not really punished for his acts, his love is so blind that he do whatever he want with the uke and in a lot of Yaoi, it's absurd. Because uke never go to the police (because he is blackmailed, violated, or raped by the seme), he says literally nothing, there is NOTHING who is really "realistic" sorry but this cliché of seme fall in love at first sight with the uke who is literally forced to love the seme is tiring. Because Uke just do what the seme want at the end, ALL THE TIME. So yes, the protagonist in this story can be in love with the seme, but he is not blind, he sees a problem. We call this : self-love it's an extreme but it's the ironic message " your manner to control me, to force me to do something that I don't want to do, are an error", in the final he says "I love you" but he die (or very hurted, we don't really see him die technically, but I prefer my theory of the death) , he dies knowing perfectly that he didn't follow what the seme planified and that will probably hurt him, surprised me. He had two choices basics : Choose to stay with the seme and we have 50+ basic classic chapters or... He kill himself and show to everyone that this person don't have the right to do whatever he wants just because he loves and that this person desires him. Nathaniel wants to extricate himself from this "destiny" of the Uke who will always fall into the arms of the seme, to be the "property" of the seme.
it is caricatural, certainly, extreme yes, but the yaoi is caricatural in general, this extreme possessiveness, this seme which is invincible, that the Uke will never be able to dominate, which is always stronger, more beautiful, bigger, more intelligent ... Nathanial just respond to the absurdity of a seme who fall in love without deep reasons and try to lock him up with him in sort of relation who only the seme decide what will happen next.
This Yaoi is not original, but the end is really interesting. The logic of Yaoi is Uke stays with Seme, "I'm your" he generally accept this situation, not Nathaniel and the only way to provoke us, to show violently to us that this time seme will not have whatever he wants. This ending is perfectly complete for me, we are just used to happy end, happy explanations...
If you read Yaoi just for sex or happy ending without pay attention to symbolism, philosophy or reflexion, you're just a consumer of mass and entertainment without values that's not a good reader for me. You may not like this end, but not trying to understand and criticize it constructively makes you someone who does not care about the work of the authors.

    koo November 6, 2019 12:12 pm

    Deep down in ma heart u so damn right... haha finally some twist...

    Scarlet Sky November 6, 2019 12:37 pm

    If I'm in the Uke's position, i would stab myself right in front of that arsehole too (⌒▽⌒)

    He deserves that punishment.

    Eggu_chan November 6, 2019 9:54 pm

    It would've only been good if the author made the series longer and slowly develop the story. Made the ending more satisfying.

    Mister Pumpkin November 7, 2019 2:11 pm
    It would've only been good if the author made the series longer and slowly develop the story. Made the ending more satisfying. Eggu_chan

    What do you mean by "satisfying" ?

Mister Pumpkin October 7, 2019 10:29 pm

I think that Seughoo didn't understand why Na-Kyum reject him with all his might when He jerked him. Na-Kyum is so pure and he is really interrogated by this force of love that Na-Kyum have for his learned sir but in the end of the last chapter when Na-Kyum call the name of a man who is not him but another : I think that Seughoo is perturbated as if he wanted be this man that Na-Kyum call so desperately and with a lot love ...

    Nenu October 10, 2019 4:56 am

    Exactly, my boy. Agree 100%

Mister Pumpkin September 25, 2019 12:04 am

Taku x Haesoo without hesitation. I don't like Joowon. He doesn't want find the truth about himself, He doesn't what he really wants : Haesoo. He is in love with Haesoo IT'S SO OBVIOUS.
It's sad, for Joowon but why did you wait that Haesoo find someone else to realize that he doesn't like the idea of Haesoo being serious with another man ? It's so egoist ! Really man ?
You wanted offer A FUCKING RING, it was a joke too ?!!! What does he play seriously ? I find him so...hateful. Ring is a serious thing, the symbolism is very important. And Joowon says yet he doesn't like Haesoo ? Come on.
After a while, you MUST make your choices, Joowon. You like him or not, there is no 'I don't like you buy I'm possessive anyway". Joowon doesn't have the right to be angry, he wanted a simple sexual relation, and this is not the case of Haesoo who needs love and affection, he needs someone who take care of him and hug him when he is sad. Joowon deserves to be punished, because you can't have everything, if you're not ready to begin something serious, you're not ready for something serious and Haesoo doesn't have to wait for you, because you don't promise anything concrete, real... You just want hidden your love, to avoid consequences. You're just cowardly and selfish.

Mister Pumpkin September 5, 2019 11:21 pm

I'm really gonna kidnapped Yohan. I swear it's my goal in life.

    Jazz September 5, 2019 11:22 pm

    Just how big is this yohan dude, where his boyfriend can’t move him...lol... hilarious

    Sangfroi September 6, 2019 12:24 am
    Just how big is this yohan dude, where his boyfriend can’t move him...lol... hilarious Jazz

    I think that in an extra says that he's near 1.9 and mc is 1.72 so the difference is quite big

    Jazz September 6, 2019 1:12 am
    I think that in an extra says that he's near 1.9 and mc is 1.72 so the difference is quite big Sangfroi

    Dang... thanks that is a big difference... and yet sexy as hell

    Mister Pumpkin September 6, 2019 8:24 am

    I'm pretty little too, but I don't care I will pursue my dream

    Jazz September 6, 2019 9:17 am

    Of course, nothing wrong w being cute fierce and small...GO GET THAT DREAM

    Mister Pumpkin September 6, 2019 10:30 pm
    Of course, nothing wrong w being cute fierce and small...GO GET THAT DREAM Jazz

    Thank youuu

Mister Pumpkin September 5, 2019 7:52 pm

Na-Kyum is a proof that life doesn't like all her creation.

Mister Pumpkin August 19, 2019 12:20 am

I personnally find this story tragic... Because, if Hyunsung and Dojin are together it's thanks to their part of animality.... They stay omega and alpha, this is a sort of continuation of Alpha like dominant and Omega dominated, hyunsung has never wanted be with an alpha and several times has been against cliche of Omega in the society. His mother suffer from this system, and Hyunsung wasn't really for a child, I see him just forced to accept a destiny that he never wanted... Same for Dojin, he hates lost his control and this fucking idea that Alpha must be with omega and that there is a "alpha pride", alpha always dominant and stronge while omega are sweet, nice, and dominated... It's kind of sad, and make me think at the past in our world where was exactly the same cliche with men and woman. This mangas just show us, a vision really persimistic from the world, she said that even if we want fight against nature, society, you will be always a part of that, and you will follow that society...

Hyunsung and Dojin have never wanted to be obedient to this society, Dojin hated omega and hyesung hated being an alpha with this subtil and direct discrimination....
This story don't change this problem, Omega will be weak, sweet, little... While alpha will be ambitious, tall, imposant, Amazing... It's just... Very tragic, humans aren't so easy to read and we can't classify each other like this, it's too easy and so stupid... I would like omegaverse more ... Realistic and stop with this strict opposition between Omega and Alpha it's deliver a poisonous message for me, alpha are more intelligente, more strong ... While Omega are the contrary... It's pissed me off, because all people in the genre obey at this logic, for example we don't have a omega who fight to sucesse in his life, with his passion and his job without to be fucked by an alpha that he knows for two days.

    afroluv August 19, 2019 1:18 am

    Yeah the first couple is an example of the title drop 'love is an illusion' ..their love is created by pheromones and in this manga, the weird, unconscious but consensual life bond occurrence..they would never be together without the accident that is Byul bc they are not a couple in love...they like each other and yeah dojin probably loves heesyung by now so...
    But anyway I have hopes for couple #2 esp with the rich, smart, bitchy powerful omega getting in the mix.. Any gender x beta is true love in any omegaverse but not too many mangakas exploit that view.


    As for omegaverse as a genre...omegas are supposed to represent the oppressed people we see in the real world: eg women, people of color. Alphas represent those with power and privilege who have that just bc they were born with a certain characteristic-not bc they did anything to earn it--like white males in America. A more poignant example would be the Hindu Indian caste system..Dalits - tech they are so low they're outside the caste system (Omegas) and Brahmins/Hindu elites (Alphas).

    So anyway, those tropes are not going away for those who write in the traditional omegaverse format. The real world oppression already pisses me off so maybe I'm immune to it in fiction. I read and I sympathize with the Omegas and praise the manga I come across that have good Alphas.

    If you want something a little lighter try

    http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/yukyu_omega/ or

    http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/boku_no_high_spec_kareshi_sama/


    If you're tired of the rape trope that has no meaning to the plot try these
    http://www.mangago.zone/home/mangalist/425432/

    BeepBopp August 20, 2019 8:45 pm
    Yeah the first couple is an example of the title drop 'love is an illusion' ..their love is created by pheromones and in this manga, the weird, unconscious but consensual life bond occurrence..they would never ... afroluv

    Actually i think you are wrong about Dojin and Hyesung, their love wasn’t created by the pheromones. Yes the title says « love is an illusion » as it is the mind set of both character at the start of the story, which is why both do not aknowledge the love eachother.

    At first Dojin doesn’t understand what he feels but he ends up understanding before Hyesung(who is bound by a trauma, due to his dad using his mom, that he eventually overcome). Of course both characters kind of fell in love a bit randomly (way too fast) but thats how yaoi works, it’s not due to omegaverse.

    Also, Hyesung and Dojin’s soul bound happened after they met, so i think the bound was made by their love (before they aknowledge it) so it’s not like they were forced by nature.

    afroluv August 20, 2019 9:51 pm
    Actually i think you are wrong about Dojin and Hyesung, their love wasn’t created by the pheromones. Yes the title says « love is an illusion » as it is the mind set of both character at the start of the ... BeepBopp

    We're gonna have to agree to disagree. IMHO They do not appear to be in love and they do not come off as lovey dovey. Hyesung only casually admitted to liking Dojin in chapter 61 or 62/3. Dojin may love hyesung but he can't articulate the 'why' of it..when he was asked he said I love u cause you're you. He can't explain cause it is the alpha pheromone talking. I'll bet hyesoo and Dojun could tell you what they love about each other bc theirs is REAL. Again that is my opion. Ymmv

    BeepBopp August 21, 2019 4:14 am
    We're gonna have to agree to disagree. IMHO They do not appear to be in love and they do not come off as lovey dovey. Hyesung only casually admitted to liking Dojin in chapter 61 or 62/3. Dojin may love hyesung... afroluv

    There is never really a reason of why you love someone though. There are reasons why you can be interested in someone, but once you love someone there is not a reason for it.

    Best example for that is if i ask you why you love your family, there is not a reason. If you are going out with someone and i ask you why you love him, are you seriously going to name something ? I believe there is not really a reason for loving someone, you just want to be loved back (and being loved as a different meaning for everyone).

    BeepBopp August 21, 2019 4:15 am
    We're gonna have to agree to disagree. IMHO They do not appear to be in love and they do not come off as lovey dovey. Hyesung only casually admitted to liking Dojin in chapter 61 or 62/3. Dojin may love hyesung... afroluv

    Oh and im not trying to convince you that they loved each other, i’m just saying i disagree that love needs a reason to be

    afroluv August 21, 2019 11:17 am
    There is never really a reason of why you love someone though. There are reasons why you can be interested in someone, but once you love someone there is not a reason for it. Best example for that is if i ask y... BeepBopp

    I think you're confusing a reason to love with why you love a particular person...I'm talking about the latter for this story. Even a shallow person might say they love someone bc they are physically attractive. I fell in love with my man cause he is handsome, smart, funny, affectionate. We have fun together, have great chemistry...etc etc. Saying I love him bc he's him is a copout imho.

    I love my family bc we are a close knit family. We talk together, we travel together, celebrate and grieve together. We fight but don't hold grudges...

    We can all identify what we love in others if it's really love. I couldn't think of one thing to find loveable in hyesung, he was one of the most annoying MCs I've ever read about. Sure I can sympathize that he is a product of his abusive upbringing bit Dojin is only into him bc he can have cute kids...an Alpha drive to procreate.

    BeepBopp August 21, 2019 10:51 pm
    I think you're confusing a reason to love with why you love a particular person...I'm talking about the latter for this story. Even a shallow person might say they love someone bc they are physically attractive... afroluv

    So you are saying, that if he gets uglier, isn’t as funny and less smart your love will also decrease? I don’t think these are why you love him. Being affectionnate might be a cause, because through his affection, you can feel his love and thats what we want, to be loved the same way we love someone.

    Him being smart, funny and handsome are probably reasons why you fell for him, but once you love him, i think all what matters is to feel loved back.

    afroluv August 21, 2019 11:32 pm
    So you are saying, that if he gets uglier, isn’t as funny and less smart your love will also decrease? I don’t think these are why you love him. Being affectionnate might be a cause, because through his aff... BeepBopp

    You are getting off topic now bc now you're talking about two people who are already in love...sure if my man was in a motorcycle accident and he's suddenly fugly and slow on the uptake cuz he didn't wear his helmet that time, I'd still love him but maybe I'd have to keep my eyes closed when we kiss. I'll still remember fondly how attractive and quick witted he was but at that point I'd be charmed by all his other qualities. The point I was trying to make was that I can identify what qualities about my partner made me fall for him. Heesoo and Dojin don't really have all that at this point in the story--though you could say Heesoo loves Dojin's money and Dojin loves Heesoo's babymaking capabilities.Byul is a winner.

    BTW, I don't think being loved back is a requirement to love someone...it's definitely a perk though.

    BeepBopp August 22, 2019 7:23 pm
    You are getting off topic now bc now you're talking about two people who are already in love...sure if my man was in a motorcycle accident and he's suddenly fugly and slow on the uptake cuz he didn't wear his h... afroluv

    I do believe when you love someone, all you want is to feel loved back.

    And ok i see that i misunderstood you somewhere.
    But the reason why Dojin fell for Hyesung is because it’s a yaoi manga and in most of them the characters falls in love for no reason. It’s almost always like that, be it yaoi or shounen ai. It’s not due to it being an omegaverse.

    Even Dojun and Heesoo (forgot how to write his name) they dont really have a reason for falling for each other, they didn’t describe each other as their type.

Mister Pumpkin August 2, 2019 12:27 am

I pray for that little cute painter never EVER finish with this psychopath ... Please save this young boy.
Amen.

Mister Pumpkin August 2, 2019 12:21 am

Other people : AAAAw this is so cute... There are a great couple, I'm jealous...
Me : WATCH THIS WATER... WOW THE COLOR IS SUPER COOL !! *-* YEAH I'M FUCKING JEALOUS I WANT THIS BATH BALL ME TOO RIGHT NOOW **-** GIIIVE ME THIIIIS PLEAAASE

    Thats Hot uwu August 2, 2019 1:36 am

    (≧∀≦) Tru I was just looking at the water the whole time and thinking I want one

Mister Pumpkin February 11, 2019 11:22 pm

- I want come back to school and take a break of my role in coffee shop.
Yohan : Nope. Nope. Noooope.
*End of the third season*

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