Sade's Topics (48)

Finally someone with logic ilyyy

Looks at Naruto, One Piece.
You Tell 'em!

his only quality*

Also, if anybody knows of any Siwoo/Do-hyeok fanfic, please share!

If toxic MLs can get away with their actions, Dohyeok too.

Siwoo will have to mature too in order to make it work. He may be a good friend but hes a terrible boyfriend with commitment problems.

Absolutely! Agreed!

yeah i'm really curious what made him this way

Bro there is no romance....this is just pure tragedy

delulu

The only thing I like about this so far is the art. Dan is just a delusional cumrag for Jae- and though I’d like to see some major character development it’s hard to imagine when we didn’t get much background on our ML. I hate when they hold it until later as if to excuse behavior with a sob story. If anything- fuck the romance. I want the male lead to be a heartless asshole who gets humbled in the end and gets what he deserves. Something new and refreshing. I wanna see Dan glow up… mentally. His granny become healthy or die- either way so he doesn’t rely on money from Jae. So far all Jae is good for is dick and money.

goofy ahh comment

Yup

Ahh, look at these kids. They think I’m delusional for reading a comic I like with characters I enjoy. While they’re, apparently, reading a comic they don’t like with characters they hate. Just say that you like the comic! God isn’t here in the comments to judge you. If you’ve stuck with Jinx for this long there is clearly something you like…and it’s probably Jaekung.

Now ask yourself "Why would there be romance in a transactional relationship?" and it is only in chapter 46. They are not boyfriends.

Minga has hinted at their future romance a few times.

Hater's comment vs the target audience.

What are you even here?

Jaekyung isn't heartless. Jaekyung will get true love with Dan at the end. He will get a life with Dan.

Maybe he is not the one that needs to be humbled.

One day they will admit this. They always say he is hot and force that ideology on my friends and me as if I consider him hot. And no one has that opinion. One was a rape survivor who hate Jaekyung but after all this BS from these kids who attack the fans who like this story or who they think like this story as they are here each chapter reading this story.

They act worse than Jaekyung as they are attacking real people and are obsessed with it.

Sade... You have the sex experts supporting you .."Also: liking fantasy rape is fine!"
But you do know there is no rape in Jinx, right? Well, besides chapter 44 when Dan was willing to have sex with Jaekyung who could not consent. Jaekyung has not raped Dan when you understand the story, characters, and definitions.
He has sexually abused Dan. There was sexual coercion. And both of them are Sexual assault as rape is considered to be sexual assault too.

To Sade,
https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/14448911/

"You have the sex experts supporting you " ^
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Not to Sade..
TM does block haters and trolls.

Sade please don't remove this. It is good evidence that they can post their gaslighting opinions and mostly without any comments. But when someone from the fandom posts about liking Jaekyung or this story. "DELULU!!" or other ridiculous nonsense. They are making it when the fandom can't post an opinion without being attacked.


The one that called you delulu... https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/14966661/
no comments. They were allowed their opinion. And here also (disturbing) https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/14348108/ They are attacking real people who like this story and no one commented to them.

And here is where was supposed to be their last rant.... https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/14150318/
https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/14144781/

I will say from reading those comments they are just camping here to attack the fandom or can't admit they like this story.
Sadly, they have to attack you over your opinion.
I have them blocked for being inappropriate. It is just toxic and more toxic than the story is because they are going after real people and not letting them share their opinions but expect to be okay with spewing hate over and over.

He should be humbled. I wouldn’t be still reading this if I didn’t have a spark of hope that something interesting will finally happen- but until then this how I see it.

"Maybe he is not the one that needs to be humbled." I did say he shouldn't. I was talking about a certain group of people on here. Let's talk about what being humbled means.


"to make someone understand that they are not as important or special as they thought: He was humbled by the child's generosity. The world champion was humbled (= unexpectedly defeated) by an unknown outsider in last night's race"

He may be "humbled" as it is foreshadowing his defeat. But .... He already knows he is not as important as he lets on since he has a drive to be the best he can be and his insecurities are deep-rooted.

For him to be "humbled" will make him relive whatever happened to him. He will have to deal with the emotional baggage he is dealing with.

I would say I want him to deal with the emotional baggage that is causing him to hurt himself and others. That is how you grow as a person and you don't have to be humbled.

To wish someone to be humbled, and I get "What is it meant to be humbled?
1. : not proud or haughty: not arrogant or assertive." and "reflecting, expressing, or offered in a spirit of deference or submission. a humble apology."

Now from the people on this page, it just comes off negative because many want him to be hurt or defeated to be humbled. But his drive is from his insecurities, it was hinted at. His insecurities are deep.

He does need to be modest and respect others. He needs to have personal growth and build stronger relationships with people. He needs to change but how people go about this on this page, it just feels sticky to say it. It is cringe-worthy to desire someone to fall for your own selfish reasons.

I have to consider your point of view and you think Jaekyung is heartless and that goes against the actual story. You think Dan is delusional and just a cumrag both go against the actual story. And "I want the male lead to be a heartless asshole who gets humbled in the end and gets what he deserves."

Now do you see how I describe "To be humble" does not come across in your message? You want him to get what he deserves but what if you are viewing him wrong due to she is purposely trying to get to hate him and you fell for it? Your version of being humbled is not going right or will be helpful. He will just spiral down more. You seem you want the desire for punishment or negative outcomes for him. Which does that make you a good person? I think that desiring him to be hurt makes someone heartless.


I want a positive outcome where he will self-reflect and grow.
It is important to approach people and their situations with empathy and understanding. Since there is not much on his background or his side, you can not make a solid opinion of him.

Regret top is one of the tags. I know he will be humble but I hope it will not be the way most hopes for it. I don't think he will lose his arm or die but it is sick what people are saying which makes them worse than him and they need to be humbled to learn their words are inappropriate.
SO.. A humbled person is Empathy: Humble individuals genuinely care about the feelings and experiences of others. Respectful: They treat everyone with courtesy and respect, regardless of their background or status. Gratitude. Humble people appreciate the blessings and opportunities in their lives and express thanks sincerely.


Some of the ones saying he should be humbled by wishing his defeat, to be hurt or to die How are they humbled? Are you being humble? No. Hoping for something negative how are they humbled and they want someone (a character) to be humbled because they misunderstand him and fall for a facade. More than just Jaekyung should be humbled. What you think comes back to you but tenfold. Character or not. It is still your thinking and words you are putting out there. You desire someone to be humbled and soon you will be humbled. Simply, everything you do creates either a positive or negative consequence. If you are negative, you bring more negative to your life. Your current reality is the result of your past actions. And what you are doing now is creating your future and if you are focusing on someone being humbled negatively what are you bringing into your life? You are calling one character heartless and the other one delusional and a cumrag, none of that is true, what are you bringing into your life by being negative. More negativity and lies in your life. Your screen name is LiE. What are you focused on lies? How many have lied to you in your life? Ultimately, your focus should be on you, not trying to control the people or things around you. Most of the time what happens to you is because of you and your thinking. You are the product of the choices you make. If you focus on higher values like love and peace, then you’re less likely to be distracted by heavy feelings of resentment, greed, or anger. You must give to the things you believe in. From how you write, you are not being humble. The same will just repeat over and over.. but you can create a new future and a better version of yourself, free from the patterns of the past by taking steps to do something differently, more positive to stop the cycle
I was saying many people need to have personal growth and self-reflection here. And no one stops growing. You always have personal growth. I am saying people should approach this with empathy and more understanding than negative outcomes and punishment on others to feel better about themselves.

"Maybe he is not the one that needs to be humbled." Get that now? Being humbled should not come from a negative outcome or punishment. How would you feel?
And no I am not defending him. This is more about you and others who allow negativity and hate to control their lives.

I feel like I wasted time reading your little essay- I don’t need to be humbled, they don’t need to be humbled. If someone is abusive and shitty to people- you can dislike them, hate them. You’re human and don’t have to put of with bullshit just because they may be a better person in the future. Good for you for being the all understanding person the world needs, now understand this: we don’t all dance to the same tune and don’t have to. I gave my opinion on a fictional character. BOOM. If he changes, good? Still, my opinion stands until I have something that changes my opinion otherwise- which isn’t your job. Why do you complain about people getting attacked for having an opinion- but if they show they hate a character (which is their own opinion) you come at us because only your opinion is acceptable? Also trying to personally attacking me over my username? That was funny because it showed how ignorant you are letting your feelings get ahead of you and judging others by just their name. How understanding of you to assume I named myself after some problem in my life when I’ve had this name since 2017- it was the beginning 3 letters of a username for a Roblox account I had at the time and I just decided not to change it. Thank you but again- even if you don’t like it, my opinion stands the same until I get something interesting in the story. Don’t continue this talk, it’s pointless and a waste of time trying to change an opinion just because you don’t agree. That’s why it’s called an opinion.

In my last comment I put time in it thinking it would be a waste of time explaining it so it was for anyone who wants to have a conversation. I gave you a chance. You are here to impose and troll others.

learn what an essay is. And for geniune people, it would not be a waste of time. Id you don't need to be humbled than Jaekyung doesn't because you are being (action) more abuse and toxic than he is. He is a character. He is fake. I am real. One you are lying about and trying to hurt for the truth.

I can dislike people's actions but I will not dislike them or hate them. I would never because it shows I let hate control me. That hate and letting negativity play a significant role in their identity or mindset They are allowing hate to control them to hear their thoughts and actions could have harmful consequences for them and everyone around them. So letting myself hate someone is causing trouble for everyone and including myself. I would be harming my own health. It will affect me if I continue on the path you are encouraging. It will harm others not just me. What are you on about?

"don’t have to put of with bullshit just because they may be a better person in the future."
That is the wrong message. My comments does not incite that. Why are you twisting my words. Oh gaslighting.. a form of abuse.

"we don’t all dance to the same tune and don’t have to."

That was irrelevant.

You did more than give a lame opinion on fictional characters.
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Still, my opinion stands until I have something that changes my opinion otherwise- which isn’t your job."
Did you feel threathen?

"Why do you complain about people getting attacked for having an opinion- but if they show they hate a character (which is their own opinion) you come at us because only your opinion is acceptable? "
GASLIGHTING!!! I complain about the attacks on readers which are not opinions or the a character in the book. That was delulu. I don't come at anyone. I call out that behavior. What opinion? I don't express my opinions often. I am not words or a character in the book.

"Also trying to personally attacking me over my username? "

More gaslighting. I never attacked you or your username. I was pointing out something. Lie is a good username for you since you can only lie when faced with the truth.

"That was funny because it showed how ignorant you are letting your feelings get ahead of you and judging others by just their name."
Projecting. That does not fit or correlate with the truth. That is abusive and trolling.

I did not assume anything. Why don't you try again? SO defensive about your "opinion"
how immature of you. Figures you would hide and cower. I never was trying to change your lame nasty opinions. It is not me disagreeing with you, It is the actual story and facts that disagree with you.
Your gaslighting will not change anything but show how abusive you are. What you did was not appropriate but shows you lost.
Ad hominem: in other words, a personal attack, attacking the person instead of attacking the issue. an example of Ad hominem would be, "poisoning the well" which is the direct attack on the trustworthiness of the person making a statement instead of addressing the statement.

Ad hominem refers to attacking the person making the argument rather than addressing the argument itself."

They must not have a very good argument with the imposing and ad hominems.


Thank you for sharing you know you are wrong and lost.
if you have resorted to insults, lies, and gaslighting you know you lost. Sounds like your own comments don't support you in your claim about yourself.

Do better. Be better. Stop being abusive.

Again, I said what I said and I’m not going to waste any more time on you or whatever you tried to say in the other comment. I think you’re a hypocrite of your own words as well-
So you can eat whatever you just spat out at me because I’m not reading all that. Buh bye- go give yourself a hug and say everything is going to be alright even though you weren’t able to force your opinion successfully on someone today. Or even better- go type up another comment that I’m not going to read. I wish you the best on your path of “understanding”. God bless you little warrior.

when you judge others, you don't define them, you define yourself.

None of my comments here as been my opinion. Please start reading comments instead of falsely accusing others. It makes you look ridiculous and exposes how immature and insecure you are.

And learn definitions. hypocrite: a person who claims or pretends to have certain beliefs about what is right but who behaves in a way that disagrees with those beliefs. the hypocrites who criticize other people for not voting but who don't always vote themselves.


That does not fit me but it describes you to a T. Your false judgement on me is you are talking about yourself.

And that is one way to deal with an annoying user who gets mad that you have your own opinion and don’t understand when to shut up. You don’t have to take bullshit from people.

Thank you! (>n_n)> I’ve been reading Yaoi since 1998, so this kind of story is literally just normal. I see lots of tropes come around cyclically, but I’ve never seen people stick around like this just to hate on something. Most people move on when they don’t like what they read. That’s what makes me think a least some of these people like Jaekung, but it’s like they are flogging themselves for liking him. They must state they hate him…for some reason. It isn’t to appease a God, so I’m not sure who they are trying to appease in the comments section of an illegal pirating website.

I know there isn’t really rape in this manga, but the younger generation calls a lot ‘rape’. I was referencing a scholarly paper about ‘Fantasy Rape’ and I think that phrase is in the title, iirc (I read it years ago). So if someone wanted to research perhaps they would find it. Fantasy Rape is the number 1 female fantasy in romance. Not just Yaoi, but regular hetero romances sport this trope as well. And it’s all primarily written by women.

I certainly won’t delete this comment thread. In fact I may start commenting more on other works I like, just stating how much I like the characters. Maybe we can see a positive turn in comments, or at the very least, get a laugh.

How much time do you even have to waste on an illegal manga reading site, what do you do for a living I wanna know....I mean I'm so jealous of you, I want this luxury of wasting time in my life seriously!!

Why are you writing a comment that applies to you? I wished I had the luxury of having time to waste. I don't waste time, nothing I did here was a waste of time. Why on you on about? No one should wish to waste time as they could do something more productive in life.
You should start by stop being abusive and look at how immature that makes you since you are here and talk about the story too. Or are you here to attack and troll people that is truly a waste of time as it only degrades you and harms you?

How much time do you even have to waste on an illegal manga reading site that has comment sections to talk to people and discuss the story where you have to be rude and obnoxious with false claims that apply to you too?
I am jealous of you that you have time to harass others to talk about the story. I would use that time to learn a language or finish many of the projects that I had started and couldn't finish due to not having time. Or even bond of a story, oh look I am taking breaks to bond with people over this story.
You have no evidence to claim that ridiculous statement.
So why don't you think before speaking because you just made yourself look like an ignorant ass. That is what happens when you assume or act like an ass.

No problem! I have reading Yaoi for maybe that long. And Jinx comes nothing close to many of the toxic stories that are out there.
You're right this kind of story is literally just normal. I don't know why many are trying to make this the worst manhwa ever and overexaggerate Jaekyung's behavior.

My friends and I have never seen this either. Why hate on something? I hate shows and books but I don't hang around on their pages to say something daily or weekly for months. That is just ridiculous. That shows they have too much time on their hands.

A friend told me they stay because their lives are miserable and they want the company by bringing others down. My friend said since so many act just as bad or worse than Jaekyung, the reason they hate Jaekyung so much is they relate to him or see themselves in him. What they hate about others is their own reflection.

As you can tell they are abusive and try to harm others for what they think who loves this story and Jaekyung. You can't like either here without being attacked. And I am considered liking Jaekyung when I never stated my opinion on him or the story. My friend says the story is dull and Jaekyung is dull. He loves Dan. He is considered like Jaekyung.

I am glad you noticed. " They must state they hate him…for some reason." We learned we had to say that Jaekyung is toxic and has bad behaviors in each comment we make, so they would not jump to conclusions and claim we are justifying his behavior or defending him. It is known, why does it has to be said each time. OMG.

They are too wrapped up and obsessed with Jaekyung and making him more evil than he is to even notice their obsession with him. I am concluding they must like the story but are afraid to admit it. Many forget the opposite of love is apathy, not hate. So that is telling about them.

I don't who they are trying to appease either but themselves??
I don't understand the need to state they hate him and he is toxic with each chapter. You can't even talk about the story positively or neutrally without one or a few of them attacking.

They must bring the conversation back to hating Jaekyung. One of my friends was talking about Heesung and how manipulative love bombing was. A few brought up Jaekyung. Jaekyung had 29 chapters and we don't have to keep saying the same thing each time. That was time for Heesung to be discussed and his actions. He was a new character. Why talk about Jaekyung?

" it’s like they are flogging themselves for liking him" It is like that and also for others liking him or who they force to like him. One of my friends hates Jaekyung but since she had an opposite POV, they made her as if she liked the story and him. She dropped the story in chapter 30. She was attacked for saying it was not rape and the reason she does not like Jaekyung is because he reminds her of the that raped her. Yet, they force her to like Jaekyung not even caring about her feelings or how that would make her feel. They are ruthless and heartless.

"but the younger generation calls a lot ‘rape’. " I noticed that and it is strange. Makes me worry about them. I wonder what they are learning that is so wrong. They act like they have high morals but their actions and words say the opposite. I have given myself migraines trying to understand them. They love to gaslight and be abusive. Why? Like with my friend, she would say she was a rape victim when she talked about Jaekyung, so she will not get vulgar insults but soon say she was trying to use her rape as validation. It was not to say it and get hideously attacked or say it and get falsely accused because they want the story to be rape. I think that is so disgusting. The point of this, is they don't realize they are so obsessed with this story that they will walk over the people who are different from them.

About the scholarly paper you were referencing, I don't think we are using that paper. I have not seen my friends say what you just said. One is a data analyst and he will be looking for that paper now.
And we can also hope for a positive turn in comments but I don't think that is going to happen with how the younger gen acts. It is sad to see how they behave.

This person is clutching their pearls because I was expressing how I disliked a fictional character. How dare I!?!? Even after telling them to stop continuing the conversation because I told them I’m not changing my opinion- they didn’t take a hint and decided to carry on. Also saying I’m gaslighting when mentioning them trying to bring my personal life into the talk when they indeed tried. They are just another hypocrite that blocks me. To think they called themselves “understanding” but got angry and blocked me.

Rip, meant to reply to you. Mb. To put it shortly: don’t waste your time on this person. They can’t really read things right anyways and will take things out of context while calling you a gaslighter and abusive.

Would the troll stop gaslighting and trolling.

I block the troll due to lies, gaslighting, and trolling. The block means this person is trolling and there is no civil conversation.

"This person is clutching their pearls because I was expressing how I disliked a fictional character. "
FALSE

"Even after telling them to stop continuing the conversation because I told them I’m not changing my opinion.
While they told me stop which they have not..... I never tried to change their lame opinion. Stop lying.

"They didn’t take a hint and decided to carry on."
I was countering with the truth vs pathetic lies and gaslighting.


"Also saying I’m gaslighting when mentioning them trying to bring my personal life into the talk when they indeed tried."

I asked a rhetorical question for them to think about themselves as they are exposing themselves. I was not trying to bring in their personal life. Gross.

"They are just another hypocrite that blocks me. To think they called themselves “understanding” but got angry and blocked me. "

FALSE. Hypocrite does not explain my words, comments or what happen here. I did not get angry. Applying emotions is a way for trolls to discredit their opponents by looking more favorable to their peers. IF anyone got angry it was them due to their name calling, triggered responses, and gaslighting.



"Rip, meant to reply to you. Mb. To put it shortly: don’t waste your time on this person. "
that means .... Hey fellow troll you can't troll MD just leave him alone. sign a hateful gaslighting troll.

"They can’t really read things right anyways and will take things out of context'


Thanks for the power but I am not them. Who is not read things right and taking my comment out of context to gaslight and falsely assuse people on their own misunderstanding.

" while calling you a gaslighter and abusive."

It is a call out on actions and words not the people.
Calling someone out isn't meant to harm someone–it's meant to point out where someone went wrong in hopes of them correcting themself and apologizing. Being called out isn't the same thing as being attacked. Being attacked is a malicious intent to hurt

The lame misuse of the word hypocrite is malicious intent to hurt. While mine are calls out to have a civil conversation. IF no civil conversation can be made or just gaslight after gaslight a block is made to mark that person.

I am not mad. They have no power over my emotions. It is inappropriate to do what they are doing. It is for cowardly people. I feel sorry for them for how fall they had fallen to harm other people. It is pathetic.

Stop being abusive.
BEING = action

It is not saying you are abusive.

more gaslighting.. Ing = action.

"if you have resorted to insults, lies, and gaslighting you know you lost" Resorted to gaslighting.. is talking about action.


Actions can be changed.

I was giving them a chance to be a better person and do the right thing but they doubled down on stupidity and pathetic trolling that only cowardly people do.

They are not disagreeing with me. I did not give my opinion on the story. My comments are from the actual story. If they can't handle the actual story details and act like a child throwing a tantrum why would I be mad when many should be laughing at them? I just feel sorry that they want to say willfully ignorant and shallow in hate as they gaslight me and this situation.
I read over my comments I don't call them a gaslighter or abusive. They took my words out of context to attack me. pathetic.

"And that is one way to deal with an annoying user who gets mad that you have your own opinion and don’t understand when to shut up. You don’t have to take bullshit from people."

What are they on? What a joke. Why would I be mad at someone acting so childish and have a tantrum like child would.
I call out people's BS and that means I don't take it from them but telling them there actions are inappropriate and calling out makes again.
Calling someone out isn't meant to harm someone–it's meant to point out where someone went wrong in hopes of them correcting themself and apologizing. Being called out isn't the same thing as being attacked. Being attacked is a malicious intent to hurt

It is an attempt for them to be an adult and have a conversation when it is shown they will not be then they are blocked.

https://markmanson.net/how-we-judge-others

If we believe that we’re victimized by society and deserve justice, then we will believe that others are victims of society and deserve justice as well. If we believe our value comes from faith in a higher power, then we will view others by their faith (or lack of faith) in a higher power. If we measure ourselves by our intellect and use of reason, then we will judge others through the same lens.


When you judge others, you don't define them, you define yourself.

If they think I am a hypocrite then they are judging me with the same measure as they judge themselves. The troll here that is gaslighting thinks they are being a hypocrite. It is projection. And the troll is from their comments. I am not calling them a troll. That is what your comments are saying they are. it is something they can change. Blocking someone that is in bad faith does not equal to being mad. What are they on? lol

Morning diamonds is one delusional being like stop rambling a bunch of bs paragraphs and essays that makes absolutely no sense

Classic lame trolling.
How inappropriate it is to lie, troll, and insult with the intent to harm others.
Cha Junho Stop trolling and gaslighting. Be an adult instead of a child throw a tantrum.

A block means to leave me alone with that pathetic nonsense or be an adult and have a civil conversation to be unblocked. There is no in-between.


Look up "trolling is for cowards". You will find things like this https://www.ellevatenetwork.com/articles/7614-invisible-cowards-how-trolling-became-america-s-newest-ugliest-past-time
Or why do people troll
You will learn trolls exhibit "psychopathy, machiavellianism, narcissism, and sadism. '

They are sadistic or they have miserable life's and trying to feel better about themselves.

https://powerof0.org/how-trolls-are-born/

https://theconversation.com/new-research-shows-trolls-dont-just-enjoy-hurting-others-they-also-feel-good-about-themselves-145931

It is important that this should be a fun and positive space for everyone to enjoy their interests but it is not due to many hateful people. Positive space, not always being positive, it has nothing to do with comments or opinions.

How are you making this a fun and positive space? Why are you trying to ruin my experience on here because you did not like what the actual story says or logical from the real world or me trying to enlighten others?

You are ruining this page and this site with that toxic environment you are helping to create. Stop being abusive and toxic.

lmaoooo get a life

At this point I think they’re on some sorta shit and it’s messing with their brain. That or they can’t read. Maybe it’s both.

Their words “when you judge others, you don’t define them, you define yourself.”
Oh the irony. They said I was gaslighting when I said they were trying to personally attack me using my username when they said- and I quote:
“ More negativity and lies in your life. Your screen name is LiE. What are you focused on lies? How many have lied to you in your life? Ultimately, your focus should be on you, not trying to control the people or things around you.”
First of all my personal life is none of their fucking business and it was VERY “irreverent” (a word they like to also incorrectly use) to the topic including being my username into the conversation and I’m not controlling anyone. I was stating and opinion and that’s all I wanted to do- but I made this rando get their panties in a twist and clutch their pearls some how. I simply wanted to say I don’t like a character and how I see it and they wanted to continue a conversation I had no interest in. They didn’t take a hint of course.

Replying to people like Morning Diamonds is a waste of your time and attention. If you talk to stupid, you might catch it. They will scream and cry to no end. Look at those large essays they poured their their little heart out. All they about to is the dort behind their ear. It sad to see such a personified waste of tune, but that doesn't mean you need to give them your attention and sympathy. Mourning Diarrhea doesn't deserve it. You need to know this:
They ate their own brain at three. They will pick fights because no one wants to give them attention in real life. They live in their Mommy's basement. Mourning Diarrhea, if you read this, lol get Nae Naed hypocrite~ get mad lol anyways enough reading their baby babble Lie. Or you will have to change their diaper too~ (づ￣ ³￣)づ

I make the best typos

LMAO to be honest I felt like I was gonna have a stroke reading that with all the typos. Good thing I know you. Anyways thanks I get it. This new user thinks everyone needs to act how they say they should act or else we will ruin our lives. If anything they’re being hella manipulative in this conversation and refuse to actually just accept that people aren’t going to agree with them and their stupid ideals. Calling anyone who dears think otherwise a troll. :/ It’d be more convincing if they were the troll with how they barged in and started telling people how to act. Acting like I have issues in my life I have to address- I do but it’s none of the things they mentioned. I have no regret on my opinion even if he becomes a better person. (Jae) Period. That’s it. I can change my opinion whenever since like I said it could change later on but other than that- let me read and decide what I think. They don’t get to think for me. They don’t get to tell me how I should think or tell anyone else to think. Yes I’m defensive because they got personal on something that didn’t need to be- On something fictional??? Talk about immature. “How many have lied to you in your life?” What kind of question is that? That was part of their reply after all I just said “ He should be humbled. I wouldn’t be still reading this if I didn’t have a spark of hope that something interesting will finally happen- but until then this how I see it.” This talk wasn’t about me or them- but they start saying shit in their reply like: “your focus should be on you, not trying to control the people or things around you.” Um. Why tell me this? I wasn’t doing any of that and ironically if anything that’s literally what they’re trying to do. Trying to tell people how to act when they should just focus on themselves because this was not supposed to be about us to begin with. They really should practice what they preach. I think they have a hard time reading/writing because otherwise they’d know they come off as a passive aggressive asshole. Another reason why there would be people who wouldn’t want to listen to them.

Meant *irrelevant

They are now cyber bullying me with gaslighting and insults.
I don’t deserve how they are treating me so ill -mannered.
I only explained Karma to them.

If they look I used this article to explain karma.

https://www.healthline.com/health/laws-of-karma#definition

Karma if you focus on negative things you bring negative things. If you focus on positive things you bring positive things.

The great law or the law of cause and effect

When most people talk about karma, they’re likely referring to the great law of cause and effect, Patel says.

According to this law, whatever thoughts or energy you put out, you get back — good or bad. In order to get what you want, you have to embody and be worthy of those things. It’s the concept of what you reap, you sow.


If you focus on not being wanting to spill a drink on your shirt. You will spill it on your shirt.

If you focus on lies, you will get lies and misinformation. Or you are saying you are a person who lies.

What I was saying, should never amount to cyber bullying and gaslighting.

That new one is just an alter of the one who took my comments out of context to cyber bully me. It is sad they couldn’t handle an explanation of Karma.

Karma is a belief that the effects of a person's actions will come back to them in the future. Focusing on lies and negativity can attract more of the same energy into your life. It's important to focus on positivity and honesty to attract positive outcomes. Just remember to always strive to be truthful and ethical in your actions.

Cyber bullying is never okay. Their actions are on them and I don’t deserve their bad behavior. They are the ones with the harmful behavior.


I will leave this to karma to take care of and what ever they are dishing will come back to them but worst. That is how Karma works.

Why don’t you get off the internet because if anything you forcing your ideals on people can check out as harassment. If we don’t care about your “help” (which it wasn’t) or ask you how we should live and think- don’t tell us how. An actual person who cares about people and want to help them would understand others have their own way of thinking and not chase them around if they don’t want to change. Your links are useless if you don’t practice what you preach. There would need to be a level headed mediator to tell you this unfortunately because you just wanna place a harmful label on us now. Stop forcing your ideals on people- maybe then you’ll be “understanding”. Also there is no karma for me since all I did was defend myself and you felt so hurt you needed to say I was abusive. You’re obviously a troll or some manipulative random. If I was a troll I would’ve never wasted my time here but you don’t even know what trolls are- even if you copy paste the meaning or another dumb link. Not sure how old you are with how you’re but I hope time will enlighten your mind that you being a manipulative ass gets you nowhere.

Oh they hating hard now lol
That message must have hit a nerve.
Get mad and cry about it

Morning loves to preach but doesn't even follow their own advice. What a waste of time.
Also I don't hand out free bandaid over grown todlers like them lol

"I'm not going to waste any more time on you"
Morning says after already replying for the third time. Man did the circus get a hold of a phone, someone get your clown. Saying "don't waste my time" to someone who isn't talking to you anymore?? It was about time you get going. Just block us, snowflake. No one was talking to you, sweetie.

Just more trolling, being manipulative, and gaslighting. Boring trolling.

Are they finagone lol? lol?

Omg, you guys know your opinions are fine, but you left them on my comment on my opinion, which is also fine, spurring this argument. If you don’t want MD or anyone being combative against you…just write your opinions on your own comment like I did. I disagreed with most comments on I saw on Jinx, so I created my own, got dog piled, and MD stepped in. My like JK. That’s fine. Lots of people don’t like him, that is also fine, but there is no need to trash people who literally like one of the main characters in a story.

morning diarrhea lmaooooooooo

I realized that I might have been spamming you with my comments. I'm so sorry, I was trying to keep it separate but for some reason when I'm on phone, it is easy to hit the wrong response.

I’m sorry for spamming your comment, I hope I didn’t come off someone targeting you because I’m just mad how the characters act… and I wanted to share my opinion. They still annoy the hell out of me and some random stranger online isn’t going to change that
(MD). Especially when they start telling me how to think and act. I’ll stop now. You're actually reasonable. Again, sorry for spamming your comments. Enjoy your read Sade.
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The thing is MD did not tell you how to think or act. You have been unreasonable since the beginning. You never gave MD a chance and got triggered over nothing but your own reflection. You have lied and gaslight MD. MD isn’t the problem here. You and the ones that attacked are. You completely misunderstood him. Then you and two others ganged up on him with emotional abuse.
One is either you or a friend that took your misinformation and attacked someone who didn’t deserve it.

You can be civil? What you did was wrong and immature. It was emotional abuse and ganging up on one person when your friend or alt was in the wrong. You created immature names to defame someone who was sharing information and stepping in after the OP was attacked. You exposed your immaturity and ignorance.
What you did was all about elevating you and degrading him. If you are genuine you wouldn’t been so vulgar or hateful .in the first place. What you did is what kids do. Adults talk about it.

Sounds like great advice for you.

From the beginning LiE imposed. They did not care what MD. they never gave MD a chance

Sade, owner of this post said that they want people to stop commenting. It's spamming them and it's understandably annoying them MD altacc.
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Still imposing. People who want to genuinely understand will not dismiss or demonise. This was condescending. They are not even talking to MD. They are talking to a made up version of MD.
This was not about an opinion. It seems Lie misunderstood and misinterpreted to where they were offended and lashed out. They were triggered making this about their opinion. That is far from what MD was saying. Md was not trying to do what was claimed. MD doesn’t not complain. He steps in and calls out bad behavior. If lie was angry they are angry at themselves not MD. Md did not personally attack anyone here. Md did not let his feelings get ahead of him slef or show his ignorance. What was said was a gaslighting. MD did assume. Lie did. Lie made up a story here. Many things were laughable. Like how Lie is trying to make this about changing opinions. But it is sad too. They are not talking to MD.

This comment is a complete sign of a narcissist person.

He didn’t get mad. He was tried of your Bullshit. He tried to have a conversation with you. You never gave him a chance and if you did you would never get into a petty attack on him showing how insecure and insensitive you were

You can’t make that claim. You have no idea what he is saying. You are imposing and making false accusations up. This was disgusting behavior

The 100 pages of comments will not support your condescending claim. This was emotional abuse.

Again you show you were not talking to MD and imposing lies on him. It was not about you expressing your dislike on a character. Why are you making this about changing your opinion? Did the real details threaten your “opinion”?

You did gaslight him. It was ugly and disgusting what you did. He is not the hypocrite, you don’t even understand his messages. You show it every time you make a comment.

That is not MD. lol

Wait~
Hm. You are a funny one lol
Your Morning Diamonds' ALT ACCOUNT
Imagine telling someone that told your other~ account to get a life and your only back up is your OTHER account. If so, welcome back, Morning Diarrhea~
*wheeze* ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ
@Sade, is there a way to mute this comment board? Because I did some digging and found that "TM SM YZ" is an alt account made either Morning Diamonds or someone else to pick fights and troll. This is going to continue, unfortunately.

You are desperately describing yourself. None of that describes MD.

You jumped in attacking. Belittling. This was a stupid comment. It was disgusting.

Name calling- immature- low emotional intelligence. Displace aggression. It is a way to feel better about yourself.
That is a comment of a narcissist. So using two profiles to attack one person who wasn’t doing what the narcissist thought.

Imposing again. Falsely accusing MD. This shows again you are not talking to MD and what he said. You made it up because you know you’re wrong. He offended you by calling you out. When you seen yourself, you hated it and make it him. Misplaced aggression

name-calling is a common tactic used by narcissists to assert dominance, Name Calling Is So Childish!

Are they finally gone? You tried to assert dominance while MD let you embarrass yourself by acting immature and exposing yourself as a narcissist.


In the vast landscape of their manipulative behaviors, name-calling is a common tactic used by narcissists to assert dominance, inflict emotional pain, and maintain control over others.
By assigning derogatory labels or name-calling, they attempt to establish power over their victims.

What’s intriguing is that name-calling is often a reflection of the narcissist’s own insecurities and deep-rooted issues. When they feel threatened or inferior, they resort to these tactics to regain a sense of power. It’s a defense mechanism stemming from their fragile egos, projecting their own self-doubt onto others.
Moreover, the cycle of name-calling allows narcissists to maintain a sense of superiority. By consistently putting others down, they elevate themselves.

MD let you exposed yourself for feeling threatened and inferior. However, you shouldn’t feel that way unless this is an alt of MD. MD noticed that is why he stop putting effort into things. It was unnecessary for this. It was disgusting and toxic.

I have not made a second account yet. MD is a friend of a friend who has decided to step up when people like you attack people like the OP.
You are the one attacking and trolling.

I was dogpiled many times. I have stepped in many times and it is great that MD does.
We should be able to talk about this story without being attacked.
We should be able to ship them with out being attacked.

I love Dan. I think Jaekyung is a bit dull. The story is dull but I just want more into it. I love toxic stories. We find a few links to what you were saying. Do you want me to share them with you?

Their Morning Diamonds alt account is fuming bro. Look at them reply to every sing old comment in existence. This might continue to spam Sade. But of course they don't care.
Because they got so mad they changed accounts to try and save themselves, I checked their TM's board and their are people pointing out they are an alt. MD's alt most likely. Man who, with a life, has time to save themselves using a fake account. They are dedicated to this. RIP Sade man

I have two accounts. One is my main one I created February 2020 and I can’t sign in.
I have said this since I created this account. I would not create this account if I could sign in to my old account. Sigh.
TM SM are two married men. I am neither one.
TM Do you want the password to this account?


HEY! A friend of a friend who is now a friend* we been friends for 4 months. Go to bed.

Wednesday Feb 7th, 2:22pm
I don't mean to be annoying but, compare Morning Diamonds' account to TM. TM is Morning's alt account. Sorry for bothering you if you already knew this. (╯°Д °)╯╧╧

“ Because I did some digging and found that "TM SM YZ" is an alt account made either Morning Diamonds or someone else to pick fights and troll. This is going to continue, unfortunately.””

This is a lie. TM was gang led up for months by haters and trolls that picks fights with us. You can not like or love this story without being attacked. You can’t even be neutral.

That is why I stepped in to help Sade but lie and Luvii were the one picking a fight and gaslighting. The definition of troll does not fit me or TM. We are part of fandom that gets attacked by trolls like you.

That digging is lies from trolls who stalk TM for standing up to them. That we are the same is an old joke. It is boring. It is an attempt to make many people one person so the trolls don’t feel threatened.

Sade, I am sorry I tried to talk grown-up sense with immature people trolling. I tried to talk with trolls. They are just being abusive. I am sorry for their behavior that led to this because if my responses were actually read it would not lead to this.
I wanted a real conversation. It is sad I only received toxic responses and emotional abuse. At least it is on me instead of you. I am sorry it turned out this way. I just gave to many chances and tried to redirect. They are to blood thirsty with attack others to have a civil conversation.

Can you all shut up and move the conversation elsewhere- like Sade kindly asked earlier. You know you can just use the link as a reference or whatever.

@Lie OMG Brooo Man I'm so sorry for calling TM an alt account its clearly run by two married men who are letting MD borrow it...

And that it's only history is literally this Manhwa with no other Want To Reads, or Current reads.
Only this Very Manhwa we are commenting on marked as "Read", MD, TM or whatever

Huh. That is textbook alt/troll/fake account.
The acting isn't doing you any justice when you time the MD account response like that.
You need to go out and socialize.
That attempt was embarrassing... Σ( ￣□￣||)

Now send your alt account to bed like you said you would. Make sure to tuck them in too lol~
(づ￣ ³￣)づ

Luvii, TM was being stalked and he set everything to private. He has Dispar and a few others.
When someone used your flawed logic. I posted a screenshot of me having over an hundred reads selected. There is a private setting on Mangago.
The rest of your comments is more failed logic. And the ending of your message is controlling and trolling.

https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/14772173/

Woops Sorry Sade!

In July a few of us was forced into a group for standing up to people who attacked a rape survivor.
We were cyber bullied for months. We were not allowed to talk about the story without being attacked. The rape survivor hated this story and Jaekyung. Many forced her to love both. One of us is a straight man who was neutral. He was forced to love it so people like you can attack him.
So have months of them ganging up on me and then getting stalkers, we stop playing the sick mind game.
Most of them deleted their accounts for a reason that had nothing to do with people attacking us.
I was in the process of deleting my comments and I deleted my comments on Dispar, love shuttle, Hoga, Maki, and many more. That was November and I haven’t because something happened.
I have many books. When you are stalked you go as private as you can. Thank you for making this a happy place.
You are using repeated failed arguments. With how Lie acted..: I am now thinking it was purposefully done because we probably talked to you on other accounts. You purposefully created this drama to get at DM. Your reply is embarrassing. You are good at giving advice for you. Who did we talk to that behave disgusting like you. Go to bed was a joke. You took it for an attack. Yuck. You had to be controlling, more narcissism

Stop being ridiculous.

I'm no longer reading their responses in fear that my brain will rot from baseless stupidity. Let them waste their own time, I got a life to take care of lol! So don't worry. Any further commenting from them is proof that they are trolls. *yawns and puts earbuds in*
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I said I’d stop commenting- so I’m sorry to Sade. I hate leaving things so negative and letting it fester like a an open wound, so just want to relocate our conversation and most likely without Luvii if possible (in case you’re curious she is my sis). If you want- not forcing you or MD to talk to me. Here’s the thing, I’m going to try to reason with you and MD if you’re willing to accept because I have hope that you guys are actually reasonable people. This fighting reminds me of other times where it could’ve been avoided and people could’ve gone their separate ways respectfully. I think you’re right- or I hope so at least. I hope you’re right that I’ve misunderstood MD’s intentions. Im not trolling and I’m not fighting anyone here just because they like the story or characters- but this talk wandered away from its original topic and that’s where it got messy. I didn’t sign up on this website to fight with people and it’s rare if I ever do. I assumed and probably misunderstood thinking MD was looking down on me for how I expressed my dislike for Jae and making it personal for me, telling me to be humble over a fictional character. I’m not going to get into why I think my original comment was fine and harmless unless it’s in another place- if you want we can talk more about anything here so Sade (OP) doesn’t need to see more notifications about us: (I don’t know how to make a new topic/conversation. This is a link to a really old comment of mine from years ago with no replies. Nobody accept for us could probably see updates unless they seek us out or try to butt in.)
https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/3813521/
It’s up to you or this could just be our last conversation. You guys don’t know me and I don’t know you- we’re strangers online who can only read the words on the screen but not know the real intentions of the ones writing/typing them. I got defensive thinking I was being attacked- but nobody really explained how I misunderstood or tried explaining what they said so that I could. I was only told I misunderstood. Therefor the fight continued. (If you guys did- I probably didn’t understand it.) If we still can’t seem to understand each other in the end, we can just let this go because I can’t keep up health wise. You guys assumed I’m a troll which is because you don’t know me which is fine because of your experience with people on mangago. I can’t really keep fighting with people because my health and how much stress it causes me emotionally and physically. I wouldn’t waste time on something like this if I wasn’t serious. It’s not ideal for me, a tired full timer to spend hours and days online “trolling”- and I wasn’t, when I’d prefer to sleep or use the site for its intended purpose (reading) and relaxing. Lack of sleep because I chose to stay up thinking what to write and talking/fighting with you guys while also dealing with stress induced anxiety because poor lifestyle choices is an obvious me problem but I just wanted to explain where I’m coming from. It’s been very unpleasant coming home just to continue this. If you guys want your chance (which isn’t time limited by the way) and are truly reasonable people- we can talk on my shared link or a link to a different mangago topic that you choose. (If I’m blocked you’d have to unblock me so I can respond to your topics.) If you have no interest in continuing this then we can just call it quits since this fight hasn’t helped anyone honestly and nobody has won or lost if it’s just a misunderstanding. If we do discuss our opinions I hope we can both understand that we can just accept that. My timezone is EST (it’s currently 2:42 am for me) so I need rest. I need to sleep so I’ll see you later. If for some reason we never talk again, ciao. I just hope I wasn’t trolled myself.

- Li

(This is an attempt to clear misunderstandings and see who is who.)

Okay I read up to page 2 then only Morning Diamonds and TM comments. They sound so mature. They did not attack back when they were attacked. I get it now. If you feel offended by what they say, then it's directed at you. Reflect on yourself and grow up. Mangago users are so sensitive. . especially BL fans, can not handle opinions for shittt. people need to start humbling these individuals like the world doesn't revolve around you and ur opinions

It seems they hurt someone's precious feelings. If you can't handle people disagreeing with you save yourself the stress and stop commenting.

Please ignore above comment. Him and I are alts living in one body. I promise i will take my schizophrenia medicine soon.

Stop fetishizing problematic gay relationships written by straight women to justify your own messed up fantasies. This is just straight up porn so I doubt it's meant to be taken seriously, unlike the authors other works. Rape and SA is not sexy and no one dreams of it, what a disgusting statement to make.

Ah how disgusting, sometimes i feel bad for women because of disgusting pieces of shit like you. Paraphilia has become something looked down apon because it is abnormal and frankly very revolting. Do we forget that the people being portrayed in these manhwas are homosexual men? If you like rape so much go out at night in colombia and see how horrible it is to experience. This just makes my skin crawl, you nasty as fuck. Paraphiliacs trying to normalise their abnormal tastes are so gross.

God i reread this more and more and it sounds like femcel shit. This is why homosexuality and women should not me mixed together because it creates shameful females like this. Jesus Christ talk about giving a bad rep to normal women.

Way to go and show you're not only stupid but also sexist and heterophobic. X'D
Stop treating your own assumptions like hard facts, you mental toddler.

Still wondering if these troglodytes would call someone a rapist/rape victim for having a rape fantasy/fetish. They strike me as dumb enough to do that anyway.

Who tf is we? The reason why it slowly got lost in recent years is because people finally started to realize that rape and assault shouldn't be normalized. 'Controlled rape fantasy'? Really?? Maybe if you're watching porn ok sure go ahead with your twisted fantasies everyone has their own tastes after all but this is a story trying to pass rape and blackmail as something that 'can be done without facing consequences'. Its such a shitty and even if you deny it, a toxic trope that encourages violence against people who won't resist and shows that its ok to not face consequences after violating and traumatizing someone who loves and tolerates you. If you like seeing someone who gets raped, assaulted and then disregarded by the person who they hold affections for then there's something wrong with you. No one should ever be put through that, not even in fiction.

Typically these semes don't even do that much after the fact, they just instantly get forgiven by acting all sad, oh, and maybe throw in a random incident that will hurt them to spice things up then they'll say sorry to uke, uke feels too emotionally unstable to think straight and just straight up forgives them. But what about all the hurt the uke has endured? The tears? Those incidents wherein he was raped and assaulted repeatedly without being able to resist? Those are all just disregarded by the author and never talked about again. These bAd BoY semes you oh so lOooOOve won't even experience half the suffering the ukes endured. Just one word and boom forgiven.

Of course not. Having a fetish (eg. Rape play) is way different than getting actually raped and sexually assaulted maybe you're the dumb one.

Love how everyone’s attacking you in the comments and yet they’re all here reading it bunch of hypocrites lmao

Ok and the OP's little 'we women' contextually implying that all women love this shitty rape trope is okay and are hard ass facts? Okay. Plus it IS true that most of these toxic yaoi stories are made by straight women. Try looking up the names of the authors of those popular toxic yaois you'll see that most of them are as what the commentor described. People like you who 'defend' their beliefs by degrading people are the mental toddlers lol

Aaaaand we got the strawman arguements comming in, NICE. X'D
It's funny how you know so little about authors yet act like you know them personally enough to tell their sexuality. Do you even realize how much you're making yourself look like an idiot?

Weird. You don't think like the people I have seen in the comments, yet you get defensive and insult me. Strange how that doesn't add up.

Oh I don't know maybe I'm using the same words you used to insult other people against you as an irony? And plus, I said MOST. Just look at their available social medias and you'll see that some of them are even publicly in a relationship with men. You can argue that they're bi or some other sexuality with being attracted to men included in it or whatever, but it still doesn't change the fact that they're fully functioning adult women who write about gay men getting raped and trying to pass said thing as okay and romantic. You just can't hold off in adding insults in every reply you leave huh?

Oh I see you also block whoever argues with your statements. Let me guess, you're going to defend yourself by saying you don't wanna talk to idiots? Funny.

Lol this is dumb as fuck

I don't think your parents loved you enough. Jesus christ.
I genuinely hope you're just pot stirring and not serious.

I guess I'm sexist and heterophobic because I'm not a fucking freak with 2/3 of a braincell

Get help, it's not "we" it's just you and whoever agrees with you is fucked up in the mind as well. Yall rape-justifying buddies

Hello? The difference is we're not fantasizing rape?? Most of us are here to check in and see if any progress has been made lmfao, you can read something and also not condone whatever is going on