ellisno June 22, 2018 12:07 pm

I don’t get why people have to either hate him or love him. Like personally I’m kind of ambivalent about him. I don’t agree with the way he did things (it was self-serving and inconsiderate for sure) but at the same time, I was just glad he isn’t a homophobic jerk. Also I think there might be some cultural misunderstandings here? As a society South Korea is pretty homophobic, and I doubt that Chanyoung’s parents are progressives who actively taught him (against mainstream thought) to accept LGBTQ people. To put things in perspective, teachers in public schools are not legally allowed to discuss LGBTQ issues in class. (This was apparently a “compromise” with conservative groups in order to pass a bill requiring or at least allowing schools to start teaching real sex ed instead of abstinence-only. Of course, the pro-LGBTQ groups in Korea harshly criticized this.) When I was studying abroad in Korea, people were visibly Not Comfortable talking about LGBTQ issues, even if they weren’t really hateful. I even sent an email to my advisor about all the casual homophobia I witnessed there because I thought that that might be something LGBTQ students from my university would want to take into consideration before studying abroad in SK. So yeah, what Chanyoung did was not cool, but given the cultural context (and the fact that even as a child he’s compassionate enough to at least try to understand something his society generally condemns) I’m personally pretty willing to forgive him tbh.

ellisno June 17, 2018 5:47 am

I’m fat in Asia but just a little thick in America. (I have the same body type as the women in Renaissance paintings.) When I was in Korea, my body image took a pretty big hit, even though nobody ever really commented on my body. That didn’t stop me from eating lots of pork belly though. That shit’s good.

    Gerororo June 17, 2018 7:07 am

    bruuuuhhhh sameeeeeee

    Marcia June 17, 2018 9:22 am

    self acceptance at its finest.
    you're a work of art basically :3

ellisno June 17, 2018 5:37 am

Kyujo, my dude, trying to force somebody into situations (including sexual ones) without any regard to their feelings on the matter is not “love.” It’s obsession and control. I’m so tired of this guy’s bullshit

ellisno May 7, 2018 5:51 am

Omg this webtoon it’s so awesome. It contrasts a dysfunctional heterosexual relationship with a healthy, happy homosexual relationship, and said “it was natural,” in a country where gay people are by and large seen as either 1) nonexistent (“homosexuality is a foreign phenomenon”) or 2) byeongtae (“perverted”). I’m so emo omg

ellisno April 22, 2018 9:23 am

Can we just appreciate how freaking adorable Sarang is??? He’s so precious, I just want to give him the whole world ㅠㅠ be with me Sarang, I’ll treat you rightㅠㅠ

ellisno April 15, 2018 2:29 am

I’m just a learner but I can read some Korean, and I pretty much got what happened in chapter 25 so... yeah spoiler alert!!!!!!
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So it starts off with DG going over to Alex’s apartment, I think it was “a rest day” or something like that for one or both of them (쉬는 날). Anyway then DG says he really wants to try something—he wants Jiwon to give him a private BJ Alex show, I think over a video call, basically. And Jiwon does his usual shocked “wtf” face and says something along the lines of, “You want me to do something similar to my show? Why do you want to do that?” And DG said it’s a sex fantasy (섹스 판타지) of his and then pulls out a dildo (that might be pink, I HOPE IT’S PINK). And I’m not really sure exactly what DG says next but it sounds like he wants to masturbate with the dildo during the video call, then he hides his face and is like “omg what am I saying.” And Alex is thinking, ‘Why is he suddenly talking about his sex fantasy?’ And he thinks about how MD probably knows about their relationship and wonders what they talked about yesterday. (If you haven’t read the raws, MD visited cafe when only DG was there, and there was a part of the conversation we didn’t hear because halfway through it switched to Alex’s POV where he’s passing the cafe and sees them together and gets all salty.) so then Alex says he doesn’t want to because only DG would get something out of that. And DG is like o shit u right but in his usual adorably embarrassed DG way. So then what happens is DG ends up masturbating in front of Alex (who puts on his BJ mask). And Alex is like when are you gonna put the dildo in? You haven’t even taken off you clothes? And DG is like wut and Alex says hurry up and do your sex fantasy. So DG puts in the dildo and Alex is like, “You’re spreading your legs well.” (fucking DROOL am I right) So DG does the thing and then when he’s done, Alex says, “Don’t take it out. Did MD teach you this?” And DG is like what?!?! And Alex says, “You met with him yesterday right? Are you doing his broadcast show (방송) together?” And then Alex puts his dick in along with the dildo which is distressing for DG (my poor baby ;-;) and tells him to hurry up and stop, and Alex is like why should I stop, and then I’m not 100% sure what all Alex says but it’s basically referencing and taunting DG about the supposed relationship between DG and MD. But then DG cuts Alex off and is like, “No you’re wrong! MD wants somebody else!” And Alex is like, “Who?” And DG is like, “Chanwoo!” And then the end.

SO ANYWAY AFTER THAT REALLY LONG EXPLANATION, a lot of y’all were right! MD is actually after the friend Looks like he just couldn’t pass up the opportunity to make Alex squirm, which I’m sure we can all relate to. Also I’ve been having to do some major suspension of disbelief in this manga so that I don’t completely hate Alex, but y’all he was making DG cry with the DP stuff because it was so painful and I’m getting tired of that shit. Especially since DG is my precious baby angel.

ellisno April 14, 2018 8:56 am

So I think what’s happening is that Namsoo gets a boner whenever he sees Minjae naked, and that’s why he doesn’t want Minjae to be at the bathhouse, naked, all the time. Because as we can see, everyone would be able to tell

ellisno January 23, 2018 4:01 pm

A lot of people are frustrated with Hajun (black hair). As Zarathrusta has said in another comment, everyone is actually just frustrated that he’s not immediately falling into Minho’s arms. But let’s look at the bad things that each person has actually done.

Minho: Repeatedly violated Hajun’s personal boundaries and forced a kiss on him; does not take no for an answer (though he’s getting better about that)

Sekyung: Knowingly led Hajun on (likely to get Minho’s attention but we don’t know what happened that night) and then did not hesitate to hurt him when he decided he could get something out of doing so; intentionally damaged Hajun’s mental image of Minho in attempt to ruin M’s chances with H; now is also not taking no for an answer from Minho

Hajun: Was rude to a guy who wasn’t respecting his boundaries

Feel silly yet?

    ellisno January 23, 2018 4:06 pm

    *Zarathustra

    Anonymous January 23, 2018 4:20 pm

    I agree!!! WTF. These people are not making any sense.

    The pink haired dude is the only certified asshole here and the one who actually did harmful stuff to both Hajun and Minho. Still everybody is throwing Minho in his arms??

    What exactly Hajun did?? Oh, my god, he was so 'cold' to poor baby Minho! He didn't fall in love with him at first sight like a good, obedient uke! Oh, the nerve of this uke!!!

    Hajun is not allowed any development and time and he is banished for life because he is consistent, honest and acting normal.... but the pink hair guy, who is sinister, who deceived everybody, oh, this one is supposed to get the guy??

    Yaoi logic stupidity at full demo here. Get a grip for fuck sake!!

    Zarathustra January 23, 2018 4:25 pm
    *Zarathustra ellisno

    Yeyyy, Thanks for the shout out!! :)

    ps: I misspell my own username a lot, too, lol.

    Sunika January 23, 2018 4:34 pm

    How about your little princess? (blackie) is such a poor victim here so innocent and all... with a good big heart!
    You forgot that is a hateful, mean and a selfish arogant prick.
    Let's forget that.... Is ok to be rude and trample all over other people feelings... you just need to cry a little and act like a victime.
    I'm sorry but i read two times maybe i didnt get the pag where he shows at least a little... kindness.... but none, everything he did was a selfish move, thinking nly about his crush

    ellisno January 23, 2018 9:01 pm
    How about your little princess? (blackie) is such a poor victim here so innocent and all... with a good big heart!You forgot that is a hateful, mean and a selfish arogant prick.Let's forget that.... Is ok to ... Sunika

    I’m not a huge fan of any of these characters, which includes Hajun, because this comic, while entertaining, is not very well written. I’m not trying to say you shouldn’t dislike him, I’m just trying to point out that it doesn’t make sense to hate him and praise the others. Sure, he’s unnecessarily rude, but he didn’t ask for any of this. From his perspective, Minho has invaded his life and disregarded his boundaries and is the one who is being selfish and inconsiderate. You talk about Hajun “thinking nly [sic] about his crush” but honestly imagine a random ass dude following you around and pestering you after you’ve asked him repeatedly to leave you alone, and when you DO agree to help you, he forces a kiss without your consent. And then imagine that when you get angry and act rudely, everyone tells you that you’ve only been thinking about yourself.

    Look, I’m not trying to make you like Hajun. If you don’t like him, that’s fair. He’s been rude for sure. But he’s not just playing the victim, he IS the victim. He’s being pushed around by a guy he’s asked to leave him alone and being very callously used and tossed aside by someone he really liked.

    Sunika January 25, 2018 12:51 pm
    I’m not a huge fan of any of these characters, which includes Hajun, because this comic, while entertaining, is not very well written. I’m not trying to say you shouldn’t dislike him, I’m just trying to... ellisno

    I really try to see your point. I think i got what you try to say. I;m not a big fun of those 2 characters. But i still don't se him as a victim...

ellisno January 15, 2018 3:09 am

Idk about y’all but I knew immediately that Skyler was rotten. He’s psychologically abusive. I knew because I had a psychologically abusive “friend” one time too, so I can smell it from a mile away.

Also, anybody else feel like the daytime-sky-hair dude is a teacher or something?

ellisno November 22, 2017 12:45 am

I’m actually rooting for Araki to snatch the president. I mean, his plans seem a little sinister, but I’m hoping that when they fail (because they will), both the viewers and Kyujo see a new side to him and then Kyujo decides he’s interested. Because Kyujo’s rotten and so is Araki (though to a lesser extent I think), and I really hope they get each other out of the way lmao

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